[First Avail. Reserv.] CT/HF Bare Rig GB + Bitmine 28nm Chip Buy discussion

[DyslexicZombei]

EDIT: Added Cointerra as an option.
9/11 Edit: Added Bitmine as discussion for possible Project Work/Group Buy.

I promised my co-op I won't take on any more Group Buys of my own at the moment.

Doesn't mean I can't help out someone or a small group that's interested in putting together a HashFast (or Cointerra) Bare Rig Group Buy, however.  

According to cypherdoc, HashFast *is* planning to ship 4X chips to customers (Woohoo for HF customers!): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=270363.msg3085264#msg3085264

These chips are going to need a home to live. That's where these bare rigs come in. I *knew* this was coming and tried to get system builders or GBCs interested previously. Please contact me if you're a Group Buy Coordinator or a new Group Buy Coordinator that's interested in pre-planning this Group Buy with me. We need more variety on this GB forum and if you're a new GBC this is a perfect opportunity for the right person(s) to make their mark here.

Besides Coaching, Mentoring, and Pre-sales planning, I'll also provide Escrow Protected Group Buy shares for your Group Buy at half of my usual fee of 1% (BTCrow 1% fees still apply), for a total of 1.5% Escrow Coordination fees. I'll also waive my usual 0.1% Pre-Planning fee.

Please send me a PM if you're a smart, handsome, and forward looking individual that's interested in an obvious upcoming opportunity that will add value and variety to the forum. This opportunity may take a few months to coalesce, but the first mover advantages could be tremendous (ask waldohoover and Coca-Cola how well that's working out.)  

[DyslexicZombei]

Reserving the first 4 bare rigs to whoever's the first vetted or experienced GBC to step up to the plate.

Reserve your HashFast DIY bare rigs below to show GBCs that there's interest. At 3 months, that's about a month after expected delivery & those chips, all 4 of 'em are gonna each need a mommyboard. They're also going to need a PSU to keep it warm at night, fans to keep 'em cold at times, some RAM so it doesn't forget what it was doing...what else...

BTW, FWIW: I'd tie prices to US currency at whatever BTC value it is that day and/or time of the sale.

[console_cowboy]

I would be interested in a barebones hashfast chip based rig if the right PCB maker made it.

Have you considered approaching Barntech with the idea? They seem quite open to new designs using their Drillbit system and they seem like really stand up guys to deal with!

[Barntech]

I would be interested in a barebones hashfast chip based rig if the right PCB maker made it.

Have you considered approaching Barntech with the idea? They seem quite open to new designs using their Drillbit system and they seem like really stand up guys to deal with!

Interested. We are thinking about doing a Cointerra thing, but hashfast would work too if there are chips available. I have tried making contact with both and not heard back so far. Have you spoken with or had email contact with either company?

Currently our plan is a Cointerra GB with the option of hosting in small nodes spread around the place, or full units if people want them. Already have some interested parties.

Cheers.

Barntech

[lemonte]

I would be interested in a barebones hashfast chip based rig if the right PCB maker made it.

Have you considered approaching Barntech with the idea? They seem quite open to new designs using their Drillbit system and they seem like really stand up guys to deal with!

Interested. We are thinking about doing a Cointerra thing, but hashfast would work too if there are chips available. I have tried making contact with both and not heard back so far. Have you spoken with or had email contact with either company?

Currently our plan is a Cointerra GB with the option of hosting in small nodes spread around the place, or full units if people want them. Already have some interested parties.

Cheers.

Barntech

Hey Barn,

I spoke to Cointerra last week as I was considering getting a group buy going.

December delivery, no sample chips, but they will give full specs so a board can be built.

Cheers,

[lemonte]

Please send me a PM if you're a smart, handsome, and forward looking individual that's interested in an obvious upcoming opportunity that will add value and variety to the forum. This opportunity may take a few months to coalesce, but the first mover advantages could be tremendous (ask waldohoover and Coca-Cola how that's working out.)  

PM'd you, I'm not sure about the handsome part, but I tick the other boxes and would like to put myself forward as a project manager. I've got an idea for a CRM platform that I use on another project which I think will translate well to this.

[DyslexicZombei]

Please send me a PM if you're a smart, handsome, and forward looking individual that's interested in an obvious upcoming opportunity that will add value and variety to the forum. This opportunity may take a few months to coalesce, but the first mover advantages could be tremendous (ask waldohoover and Coca-Cola how that's working out.)  

PM'd you, I'm not sure about the handsome part, but I tick the other boxes and would like to put myself forward as a project manager. I've got an idea for a CRM platform that I use on another project which I think will translate well to this.

Oh? Do tell! Well, privately at least.

We could still use some help trying to automate Escrowed Group Buys. As it stands now, it's all manual from the seller's POV with the semi-automated aspects - such as manual release of funds at the end of a successful Group Buy - showing on the customer's end.

[Swimmer63]

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[DyslexicZombei]

I would be interested in a barebones hashfast chip based rig if the right PCB maker made it.

Have you considered approaching Barntech with the idea? They seem quite open to new designs using their Drillbit system and they seem like really stand up guys to deal with!

Interested. We are thinking about doing a Cointerra thing, but hashfast would work too if there are chips available. I have tried making contact with both and not heard back so far. Have you spoken with or had email contact with either company?

Currently our plan is a Cointerra GB with the option of hosting in small nodes spread around the place, or full units if people want them. Already have some interested parties.

Cheers.

Barntech

Hey Barntech,

As you know, I'm a fan of your work. I can help out with this project, I just can't take the lead because of prior commitments/promises. I am willing to help with sourcing some parts and soliciting quotes along with others, marketing, sales, customer service & minimal tech support. I love helping others, esp. if they're customers, so you can focus on doing what you do best.

I can also offer Escrow protected sales via BTCrow any time anyone wants, even if the Group Buy originally didn't have escrow protection. Some people just like the safety and dispute resolution process of Escrow, even if they pay a little more for it.

Perhaps we can use this thread to coalesce the first solid barebone rig attempt(s) for Cointerra and/or HashFast and gather together interested co-sellers, developers, and buyers wanting to make a reservation.

EDIT: Updated title thread to widen project scope/possibilities.

[Barntech]

Hey Zombie.

Sounds good. Always nice to have spare hands and brain to keep on top of all this stuff. Sounds like it could be good to see what we can do together. It would be nice to start seeing what kind of interest there is out there for either a fast-hash-one based project http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_category=8&controller=category, or a cointerra based project http://cointerra.com/shop/

They are both offering chips for what looks like a January delivery. The smaller size of the fast-hash-one chips is more appealing to us at this point as they can still be accessible to smaller scale miners, and most likely can be built into the expandability of our current equipment. If you are reading this and would be interested in either a $3200ish contera 500 GH/s miner, or a $550ish 32 GH/s miner, please speak up and it may come to pass.

Barntech

[Swimmer63]

I would be very interested in both.

[DyslexicZombei]

I would be very interested in both.

Holy cow! Who the heck wouldn't! I'd def. be interested in buying as well as helping.

bobsag3 - who has super cheap miner hosting - & I agree to be your helping hands in whatever way we can help because you're more then worthy of our support. It appears lemonte is interested as well in some way, we've been in contact & I may be vetting him shortly.

I can also speak for jungle_dave that if he has access to the right equipment/talent/software he's got some interesting ideas to improve hashrate *without* overclocking as he has a background in cryptography as an EE/Network Engineer. He's dying to work on his improvements but needs some help. You may want to speak with him about his ideas as they're over my head even though I used to run actual network encryptors/decryptors before there was Bitcoin.

I've done procurement for various R&D projects over the years so I'm not exactly a stranger to dealing with mfgs. and resellers as far as the wholesale pricing aspect.

[davmp]

If you are reading this and would be interested in either a $3200ish contera 500 GH/s miner, or a $550ish 32 GH/s miner, please speak up and it may come to pass.
Barntech

While the Cointera (was contera a purposeful misspelling?) has a 3x better GH/$ initial cost, I can't justify that level of spending myself at this time.   As a result, I'd be interested in the $550ish miner.   But that might change if I knew GH/W numbers too.

Oh, and if anyone needs a programmer to help with anything, I can offer my services.  I can also build websites, webstores, etc.  My day job involves writing and supporting the whole component stack involved in FX trading systems.

[bobsag3]

If we also need $$$ to buy the chips ahead of time, I can come up with it given the headsup/

[DyslexicZombei]

If you are reading this and would be interested in either a $3200ish contera 500 GH/s miner, or a $550ish 32 GH/s miner, please speak up and it may come to pass.
Barntech

While the Cointera (was contera a purposeful misspelling?) has a 3x better GH/$ initial cost, I can't justify that level of spending myself at this time.   As a result, I'd be interested in the $550ish miner.   But that might change if I knew GH/W numbers too.

Oh, and if anyone needs a programmer to help with anything, I can offer my services.  I can also build websites, webstores, etc.  My day job involves writing and supporting the whole component stack involved in FX trading systems.

Nice! I think that between all the volunteers that showed up, Barntech won't have to worry about the front end; as in: site, sales, marketing, customer education (I know I was probably a PITA when he was setting up) & customer service (which can take hours and hours), refunds, dispute resolution, having to do all the project updates...oh, all kinds of stuff.   He can tweak things or adjust things as he sees fit for the good of the Group Buy.

I believe he's already had some help with his site but perhaps you can come to an arrangement with him for some services.

[DyslexicZombei]

Hey Zombie.

Sounds good. Always nice to have spare hands and brain to keep on top of all this stuff. Sounds like it could be good to see what we can do together. It would be nice to start seeing what kind of interest there is out there for either a fast-hash-one based project http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_category=8&controller=category, or a cointerra based project http://cointerra.com/shop/

They are both offering chips for what looks like a January delivery. The smaller size of the fast-hash-one chips is more appealing to us at this point as they can still be accessible to smaller scale miners, and most likely can be built into the expandability of our current equipment. If you are reading this and would be interested in either a $3200ish contera 500 GH/s miner, or a $550ish 32 GH/s miner, please speak up and it may come to pass.

Barntech

Hey Barnetch,

Yup, as the posts above point out: whatever you want us to do, we're more then willing to help.  

My evil angle is that the less of the customer service & day to day stuff you have to deal with, the faster you'll get product out the door. Moohahaha.

[bobsag3]

Hey Zombie.

Sounds good. Always nice to have spare hands and brain to keep on top of all this stuff. Sounds like it could be good to see what we can do together. It would be nice to start seeing what kind of interest there is out there for either a fast-hash-one based project http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_category=8&controller=category, or a cointerra based project http://cointerra.com/shop/

They are both offering chips for what looks like a January delivery. The smaller size of the fast-hash-one chips is more appealing to us at this point as they can still be accessible to smaller scale miners, and most likely can be built into the expandability of our current equipment. If you are reading this and would be interested in either a $3200ish contera 500 GH/s miner, or a $550ish 32 GH/s miner, please speak up and it may come to pass.

Barntech

Hey Barnetch,

Yup, as the posts above point out: whatever you want us to do, we're more then willing to help.  

My evil angle is that the less of the customer service & day to day stuff you have to deal with, the faster you'll get product out the door. Moohahaha.

And money for me and my hosting? I ALSO LIKE USPS BOXES. I have waaaaaaay to many of of them. hint hint

[philipma1957]

Hey Zombie.

Sounds good. Always nice to have spare hands and brain to keep on top of all this stuff. Sounds like it could be good to see what we can do together. It would be nice to start seeing what kind of interest there is out there for either a fast-hash-one based project http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_category=8&controller=category, or a cointerra based project http://cointerra.com/shop/

They are both offering chips for what looks like a January delivery. The smaller size of the fast-hash-one chips is more appealing to us at this point as they can still be accessible to smaller scale miners, and most likely can be built into the expandability of our current equipment. If you are reading this and would be interested in either a $3200ish contera 500 GH/s miner, or a $550ish 32 GH/s miner, please speak up and it may come to pass.

Barntech

 the 500-600 dollar market is underserved  a 32gh miner at that price point sounds like what I want. for 2 years 400-600 dollar gpus were big news for mining the idea of a 32gh unit vs a .6gh gpu .  uses less power less noise is appealing.  If this can be done without huge leadtime it would be very nice. gpus were a 1 day wait from amazon. the only fast ship gear right now is from AM.  We need a 550 piece of gear that can ship fast under 2 weeks .  Waiting for a chip until Jan is the sticking point as I see it.

[Barntech]

Hey all

Looks like there is decent amounts of interest in this stuff. Good to see, and thanks everyone for putting yourselves forwards offering assistance. Feels like we could do something cool here. I definitely do like the 500-600 mark for smaller more accessible miners more than the larger offering from Cionterra. I totally agree that getting this stuff moving quickly is ideal, but at this point it seems we're looking at January for either of these chips. As far as i can tell, none of them actually exist yet. I have a phone meeting set up with the guys from VMC on Monday so i will be able to get more details then and share them with you all. If i feel comfortable with their vibe, then it may well be worth moving quite quickly to secure early chips. Bobsag, your offer of some upfront cash may well come in useful to just place an order without having to wait for a group buy to fill up, though i do think we'll be able to reach the batch price quite quickly. 500 chips into two chip miners is 250 miners. I will personally want a decent amount, probably around the 50 mark and i imagine the rest of you would put your hands up for some, so in the end we would maybe only need to find takers for 100-150, which i think will be very easy to do. As always, the epic rising difficulty is a worry, and who knows where it will be by january or february, but i guess its probably still worth taking the plunge. Davmp and Zombei, it could be cool, not quite yet but maybe soon, to start looking at getting a solid order form on a separate page of our site for this stuff. Slightly premature right now, but would be good to have it ready to go from the beginning. On our end, we are still thoroughly tied up in our Bitfury stuff and want to wait at least until we have our prototytpe hashing before taking on any other projects. That should be up and running in the next week or so.

Cheers

Barntech

[Philj6970]

I would definitely be up for a 32 g/h unit if the price is around the $500 mark, but if difficulty keeps rising the hardware costs will have to come down.
We are going to see the hobby miners all dying off otherwise.

I'm in for one if delivery is going to be under 4 to 6 weeks from order. but not "Two Weeks^TM"