What are your thoughts on market manipulation?

[prashanta]

I was trading in April 2017 just as I am in January 2018, and I find very few similarities between the outlook for bitcoin in these different time periods. The cryptocurrency space today is orders of magnitudes more mature than 2017. What is making me even more bullish is that mainstream speculators still seem to live under some kind of illusion that bitcoin is built on “stone-age technology that has failed to adapt” and avoid investing in bitcoin for this reason. I remain positive that the positive momentum building up around the Lightning Network can eventually serve to recapture some of that capital.
Let me know by the comment below!

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[prashanta]

nobody knows for sure whats going to happen.. And why bitcoin cash ? if the matter is fees and scalability why not use the new raiblocks nano or even litecoin , dash ... ? There is a problem with the bitcoin forks. There are too many we are losing credibility. No more forks

[dvillier]

Our thought fail on the market manipulation, Out thought fail in very short time . we doen't know what are happening right with bitcoin. No body can know what will be the in the next week. because the value is fall down straight. But we believe that the value of the bitcoin rise soon. The market will blow once again and the user of the bitcoin will be happy soon.

[devormity]

I was trading in April 2017 just as I am in January 2018, and I find very few similarities between the outlook for bitcoin in these different time periods. The cryptocurrency space today is orders of magnitudes more mature than 2017. What is making me even more bullish is that mainstream speculators still seem to live under some kind of illusion that bitcoin is built on “stone-age technology that has failed to adapt” and avoid investing in bitcoin for this reason. I remain positive that the positive momentum building up around the Lightning Network can eventually serve to recapture some of that capital.
Let me know by the comment below!

If Bitcoin wants to be taken seriously, it may not be easy or legal to manipulate the market. While decentralization should replace the rules, there is obviously a way to do it before it is taken seriously. "As a major investment in cryptocurrency assets and as countries take steps to legalize bitcoin as a payment system (as Japan did in April 2017), it is important to understand how fragile cryptocurrency markets can be manipulated.

[Imran1271]

nobody knows for sure whats going to happen.. And why bitcoin cash ? if the matter is fees and scalability why not use the new raiblocks nano or even litecoin , dash ... ? There is a problem with the bitcoin forks. There are too many we are losing credibility. No more forks

Crypto markets are anything but mature, the inefficiencies are decreasing but still large enough for a skilled trader to profit handsomely. I think there is too much emphasis on 'news' here. This was coming for a while if you were watching the whale's selling volumes the clue was within.

[bitbunnny]

Despite all theories I seriously doubt that Bitcoin market can be manipulated. Not  for real.
In situation like this when the price is falling users are looking for reasons and market manipulation could be one of them.
But believe mr, there is no conspiracy theory and Bitcoin price is moving freely up and down.

[Imran1271]

Our thought fail on the market manipulation, Out thought fail in very short time . we doen't know what are happening right with bitcoin. No body can know what will be the in the next week. because the value is fall down straight. But we believe that the value of the bitcoin rise soon. The market will blow once again and the user of the bitcoin will be happy soon.

The big money is why the price is swinging as wildly as it is.  The big money is here and it's so big and has so much power that it can create worldwide FUD whenever it wants.  Markets are made to move money from the many to the few.  If you think you're smart enough to outsmart it you probably aren't...  This isn't necessarily all replying to you u/cryptohussle,  I'm sure you're very smart.

[SparrowMano]

I must admit that the market is rather predictable, this crisis we had all seen coming, so that it is also obvious is that the scenario was written

[AlisA330]

I believe that whales manipulate the price of bitcoins. In my opinion, this is happening on a global scale. If you look at the growing bitcoin price from September to December 2017, you can see that everything started with a fall of more than 60 percent. As a result, bitcoin reached 20 thousand USD.

[giogio0504]

I was trading in April 2017 just as I am in January 2018, and I find very few similarities between the outlook for bitcoin in these different time periods. The cryptocurrency space today is orders of magnitudes more mature than 2017. What is making me even more bullish is that mainstream speculators still seem to live under some kind of illusion that bitcoin is built on “stone-age technology that has failed to adapt” and avoid investing in bitcoin for this reason. I remain positive that the positive momentum building up around the Lightning Network can eventually serve to recapture some of that capital.
Let me know by the comment below!

I really think that there are some manipulations in the market, i even think that the price fall is caused artificially to make cheap investments.

[Qartersa]

I think market manipulation already takes place in Bitcoin care of the whales or giants in VARIOUS industries (and yes, I think this is attributable to some governments too). You know, since they figured they cannot totally ban Bitcoin, and putting in mind that they cannot totally brainwash the majority to defer from transacting with Bitcoins, they now decide to join the bandwagon by putting large amount of investments in Bitcoin. Through this, they can definitely penetrate the market and thereafter influence the same. Imagine if all of them will put in large amount, the price will definitely increase because of increased demand. However, if they cash out their investments, the price will definitely decrease because of decreased demand. This, partnered with false news dissemination will surely diminish Bitcoin's value.

Remember the price of Bitcoin is heavily influenced by supply and demand nothing less.  

[deviltasha]

Despite all theories I seriously doubt that Bitcoin market can be manipulated. Not  for real.
In situation like this when the price is falling users are looking for reasons and market manipulation could be one of them.
But believe mr, there is no conspiracy theory and Bitcoin price is moving freely up and down.

Why are you so sure about this? What are your arguments that crypto market cannot be manipulated, like any other market?

[ss890]

nobody knows for sure whats going to happen.. And why bitcoin cash ? if the matter is fees and scalability why not use the new raiblocks nano or even litecoin , dash ... ? There is a problem with the bitcoin forks. There are too many we are losing credibility. No more forks

Im sure that bitcoin is not a stone-age technology and what we are looking at is brilliant idea that came into reality. Those who are not able to get the technology facts are the one who call it bubble now a days. Just look at the fresh scenario when the bitcoin and all other crypot currencies dropped into red zone then everyone started speculating that bitcoin is big bubble now its gonna burst. What the hell was that I dont get it. Now look at the bitcoin and other crypto currencies, it is going up again and where are those people who called it bubble yesterday. Lolz. They dont understand the technology at all and thats why we have part of crowd which gives us uneducated guesses.

Its just that stock exchanges fell down and the indirect effect was seen on the bitcoin market too, nothing else. We are recovering now.

[Shreek]

it will happen, but nobody knows In my opinion the market manipulation will only create unstable conditions, not directed and also lost value.

Bitcoin has experienced too much in difficult things, and it makes other altcoins also in the lowest position, and some even die, and market manipulation actually worsens the situation.

[IRISlingk]

If lightning networks really reduce bitcoin handling costs, then Bitcoin will usher in a lot of changes, first of all, it can be used to a wider range, because of the previous expensive shipping costs, resulting in a lot of applications have been limited.

[Imran1271]

The amount of manipulation that is going on in most of these cryptos is ridiculous. They put the money into the market to give the common man hope and then suck the money right back out taking all of our hard earned money with it. It is the same old story, "the rich get richer, while poor get poorer." Wouldn't it be nice to have millions to be able to influence the price of currencies? The good thing is the big money is eventually coming! We don't know when or from where, but the fact that we know it is coming is the sole reason I'm not panicking from this huge dip. We are still a ways away from wide adoption so there is a lot of money to be made.

[MkGregor]

Market manipulation is great, as long as you stay on the right side of it, and follow the trend as well as protecting your back by risk management.
Ad if you think, than other markets are not being manipulated - they are. All of them.

[SparkSun]

I believe that whales manipulate the price of bitcoins.No body can know what will be the in the next week. because the value is fall down straight. But we believe that the value of the bitcoin rise soon.

[DRVX]

I believe that whales manipulate the price of bitcoins. In my opinion, this is happening on a global scale. If you look at the growing bitcoin price from September to December 2017, you can see that everything started with a fall of more than 60 percent. As a result, bitcoin reached 20 thousand USD.

They certainly do it! I do not have any doubts that the whales have all reasons to manipulate the market and even artificially create rumors around Bitcoin and alts. They get much profit as the result.

[Vatimins]

I was trading in April 2017 just as I am in January 2018, and I find very few similarities between the outlook for bitcoin in these different time periods. The cryptocurrency space today is orders of magnitudes more mature than 2017. What is making me even more bullish is that mainstream speculators still seem to live under some kind of illusion that bitcoin is built on “stone-age technology that has failed to adapt” and avoid investing in bitcoin for this reason. I remain positive that the positive momentum building up around the Lightning Network can eventually serve to recapture some of that capital.
Let me know by the comment below!

     You know what op, despite all the things that people say about market manipulation, I still do not believe that someone can really be able to manipulate the bitcoin market, I just don't see something like this being possible. Although it can really happen if a lot of wall street whales decides to team up and do it. But why would they? I mean, they are already in a good state in life living the dream. Why would they even waste time or risk some big values of their possessions just to manipulate a market like bitcoin? for fun? for money? maybe. But unless I get to see some concrete evidences that can prove this, I wouldn't bother worrying about it since I have more important this to worry about than this.

     Now, regarding the lightning network. I really do honestly think that this can be a very great thing for bitcoins since it can really solve the biggest problems that are really holding bitcoins back from reaching full success. Although I see it as something that is just a good fix  for the meantime while there is no true solutions yet for this problem, I still believe that this will be enough to actually draw in a huge amount of traffic back on bitcoins or maybe even more when it gets implemented.