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February 06, 2018, 02:23:38 PM
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Someone will be tagged soon Roll Eyes
Good catch!

lamjed, care to share which deleted posts of yours earned you 2 times 4 Merit points from two different users (both shitposters who don't post anything else than signature applications when they're not in a campaign) within 4 minutes apart? I guess 4 sMerit was all they had.
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    February 03, 2018, 10:43:34 AM: 4 from majdoso for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
    February 03, 2018, 10:39:33 AM: 4 from didoubk for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)

Merit turns out to be a great way to confirm alt-accounts!
Yes i said that it was weired even for me and if i was the responsable of it i would never post in meta.
I deleted the posts because they were low quality and do not deserve merit points.
And I suppose it's just a coincidence that these users share your unique writing style, right down to your idiosyncratic word choices and grammar errors? Roll Eyes

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February 06, 2018, 03:07:15 PM
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Actually i suspected this merit system. Imagine merit comes from a single thread to a multiple times topic everywhere in the forum. I guees only theymos who knows the clear whole scope of merit. I do believed that merit given by him is quite creepy to all unanimous members.

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February 06, 2018, 03:16:56 PM
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Someone will be tagged soon Roll Eyes
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1206468

I personally think it won’t be happening soon as the majority of societies are still not convinced with that change and are still afraid of the concept of winning and spending money on line . It’ll happen eventually, one day , but i don’t think it will be soon

I personally like both, trading and working in signature compaigns. I do not understand well trading but it seems so interesting. For the moment i am concentrating on working in signature compaigns because i think it is less complicated.


You are doing the right thing by pointing the people trying to misuse merits. But it should be reported correctly. Here is the correct place to report it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2823221.0
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February 06, 2018, 04:53:24 PM
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Merit turns out to be a great way to confirm alt-accounts!

yes, i want add this new variable to my investigations
because some users dont think with mind, think with a$$

is pretty easy with "merit" discover and confirm alts Smiley total agree

i <3 merits system

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February 06, 2018, 05:13:57 PM
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Someone will be tagged soon Roll Eyes
Good catch!

lamjed, care to share which deleted posts of yours earned you 2 times 4 Merit points from two different users (both shitposters who don't post anything else than signature applications when they're not in a campaign) within 4 minutes apart? I guess 4 sMerit was all they had.
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    February 03, 2018, 10:43:34 AM: 4 from majdoso for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
    February 03, 2018, 10:39:33 AM: 4 from didoubk for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)

Merit turns out to be a great way to confirm alt-accounts!
Yes i said that it was weired even for me and if i was the responsable of it i would never post in meta.
I deleted the posts because they were low quality and do not deserve merit points.
And I suppose it's just a coincidence that these users share your unique writing style, right down to your idiosyncratic word choices and grammar errors? Roll Eyes

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And some fear, in the short term, a sharp correction of the price of Bitcoin - while several financial analysts mention the existence of a speculative bubble, which would threaten to burst at any time

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February 06, 2018, 05:34:44 PM
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I've seen a lot of posts about this merit system,they always say that its so good oh just amazing,after this they are doing everything to achieve their rewards -'merits',I like it too but we need right implementation of this system.We see a lot of Jr.members with 2000 posts,all of them are trying to post as many as they can with the hope that one day they will get a lot of  merits,by this I just want to say that In addition, it is necessary to introduce other new regulations which will not be harmful to those who are really trying to help someone.
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February 06, 2018, 06:55:25 PM
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I personally think that the system of merit points that the forum started to work with is launched after a precise study.
A lot of users are making stupid posts with no useful content just to ameliorate their ranks and earn much more money.
The forum becomes full with empty content posts. So i do believe in this new technic which represents a control system that fixes the upgrade criteria.

Yeah! Pretty agree, this new merit system are meant to build control over users of bitcointalk. It is also a fair assessment for me to rank up properly and reasonably. This is much better rather than letting users to rank up then as a snap of a finger they will lose their accounts due to negative trust given for making less quality posts.
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February 06, 2018, 07:27:00 PM
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People are posting stupidly long posts that try to appear intelligent, but they are really just spam.  You have people copy and pasting huge ass paragraphs from other sources.  Then the actual good posts don't even receive merit.
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February 06, 2018, 09:54:05 PM
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I personally think that the system of merit points that the forum started to work with is launched after a precise study.
A lot of users are making stupid posts with no useful content just to ameliorate their ranks and earn much more money.
The forum becomes full with empty content posts. So i do believe in this new technic which represents a control system that fixes the upgrade criteria.


Hey Pajeet - You are going to have to find a new way of income, you aren't going to make the cut here anymore, son, sorry.

Your post history is shit. You can barely type English, and honestly, that merit shadiness you got going on ain't gonna help ya either.

Not sure what country you live in, but you can probably make more $ getting a real job.

Good luck!

This type of condescending behavior shouldn't be propagated here, regardless of account level. You may feel entitled to write things like this because of your level, but you really need to check yourself.

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February 06, 2018, 10:09:43 PM
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I personally think that the system of merit points that the forum started to work with is launched after a precise study.
A lot of users are making stupid posts with no useful content just to ameliorate their ranks and earn much more money.
The forum becomes full with empty content posts. So i do believe in this new technic which represents a control system that fixes the upgrade criteria.

I agree with your opinion if the future merit can remove spammers in bitcointalk but if I think if at the beginning of the merit weighing merit that is nearing the next rank as I live looking for merit to be able to ride a full member even looking for a merit can eat time 2 new daily we can get merit
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February 07, 2018, 10:48:37 AM
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Meritocracy is a form of social order in a given hierarchical community.
According to Plato it can be a bless if conducted by a highly educated class of Philosophers only, not otherwise.
Interesting 45 minute tv-show that deals with the case when it becomes implemented on a mass scale (contrary to Plato) is linked below:

http://orville.wikia.com/wiki/Majority_Rule

If you are a fan of Sci-Fi, surely you will enjoy this show, please share your impressions and if you see any similarity with how we implemented merit strategy here.

Will make few more points related to the philosophy of Bitcoin (food for thought as claims may be perceived as contradictory on a surface).

Decentralization implies horizontal community order.
Centralization implies hierarchy - pyramid of ranks.

Decentralization of authority denies existence of authority.
Centralization of authority denies possibility of an effective authority in a complex system where capacities of center of authority are not unlimited.

Not having large scale low quality posts proliferating is not guaranteed unless true authority corresponds to meriting capacity of forum members.
Can it ever actually be the case ? Or did we actually subscribed to a psychology of masses instead ?

I've recently witnessed explosion of low quality very short posts just giving praises to newly incorporated merit system (like 10 words max in a typical kissa** style) that were subsequently merited muuultiple times (thus increasing meriting capacity of a low quality poster) and this even occurred in 4 different language sub-forums that I'm following being poly-lingual.

Let's constantly valuate and reevaluate B.talkIP-s.
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February 07, 2018, 10:52:50 AM
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People are posting stupidly long posts that try to appear intelligent, but they are really just spam.  You have people copy and pasting huge ass paragraphs from other sources.  Then the actual good posts don't even receive merit.
They will be tagged/ spotted by users and be punished harshly by admin/ mods by naive plagiarism. They will be banned sooner or later by spamming activities.
For example, this one, 50 merits for shitty post.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2552368.msg28897101#msg28897101
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February 07, 2018, 11:16:21 AM
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They will be tagged/ spotted by users and be punished harshly by admin/ mods by naive plagiarism. They will be banned sooner or later by spamming activities.
For example, this one, 50 merits for shitty post.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2552368.msg28897101#msg28897101


i release neutral trust at the moment
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=828064
need more investigating, probably alt-account

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February 07, 2018, 01:55:00 PM
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The merit system started by the forum is just to determine the quality of the posts which are being posted in the thread.Now a days many posts are being observed which are irrelevant to the topic or which are not up to the point.The merit system reduces the spammers whose only motive is to increase rank and participate in signature campaign to earn more money.
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February 07, 2018, 02:46:49 PM
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Yes I think it's a very good initiative for Bitcoin talk organization. Bitcoin is becoming a good crypto currency day by day. To know all about this Bitcoin or any other kind of crypto currency this website that is Bitcoin talk organization is the best one. Also people used to visit this website for gathering knowledge about this. So if they gets misleading by a post of a newbie or Jr member then it will be a bad one. I'm not saying that newbie or Jr member has a bad quality posting, I am trying to say newbie and Jr member are new here. They only gathering knowledge. So by the help of this merit system, they have to post good content. As a result, the percentage of bad quality posting is reducing. Above all it's helping the forum to go forward by the help of good posts.

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February 07, 2018, 06:23:11 PM
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People are posting stupidly long posts that try to appear intelligent, but they are really just spam.  You have people copy and pasting huge ass paragraphs from other sources.  Then the actual good posts don't even receive merit.

Those people will soon realize the huge mistake they are making. Posting copied content here results in permanent ban without warning. This means all their efforts for ranking up will go in vain.
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February 07, 2018, 06:29:32 PM
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Posting copied content here results in permanent ban without warning. This means all their efforts for ranking up will go in vain.

And if the mods are too busy, then DT will tag them.   Copy/pasting is pathetic.  Please point out users you see doing this.

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February 07, 2018, 06:47:26 PM
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I like also the rule, It challenges me to improve how I can construct my posts and what approach you will do to earn merit from others.
I hope there will be a page soon wherein the post is not counted their and people may post all their questions, and questions that had been ask before. (Just a suggestion, please don't bother to bash me)

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February 07, 2018, 10:37:27 PM
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I personally think that the system of merit points that the forum started to work with is launched after a precise study.
A lot of users are making stupid posts with no useful content just to ameliorate their ranks and earn much more money.
The forum becomes full with empty content posts. So i do believe in this new technic which represents a control system that fixes the upgrade criteria.

As much as merit system wants to established controls over quality posts, the fact that many user of this forum are working for campaigns and are obliged to complete their post requirement is still one reason why non quality post will still be present. But the best part of this merit system is the idea that whether you make thousands of post, if none of them earn merit you will not rank up which I think is a best way to control position.
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