hotel mining

[nsummy]

No need to waste money on a hotel room.  Just hit the streets of NYC:  https://nypost.com/2017/08/02/this-homeless-guy-has-found-the-ultimate-power-hack/

[Kapz786]

Arent there plenty of datacentres that include internet/electricity that will host most miners for anywhere between $100-$150 a month? I think all these obscure idea's wont be anywhere near as competitive as that considering

[Juggar]

Arent there plenty of datacentres that include internet/electricity that will host most miners for anywhere between $100-$150 a month? I think all these obscure idea's wont be anywhere near as competitive as that considering

No, WTF?

Most of us dont live next door to a data center much less even know of one where such is feasible. I mean Christ I live 2+ hours away from the outskirts of Atlanta, thats the closest major city near me.

This idea wont work for like 99.9999% of people.

[coins4commies]

This thread wasn't quite a joke but wasn't quite serious either.  Somewhere in between.  A hypothetical fantasy. 

So how much electricity can you use in a hotel before its considered stealing?  Is someone using their laptop to prepare their power point presentation stealing electricity as well?  Stealing is a strong word when you are paying for a room with electricity included. 

Stealing would be going into every hotel's business center and installing background miners that will perpetually mine to your anonymous monero account.   

[elgi76]

many hotel in the world use a card or key you must place in your room for have electricity.
you can travel and stay in your room all the time, same of a jail ...

ps :
if you can do it, you participate to hotel make up her price (you think nobody show depense and earning on a hotel or over industry ?) or hotel close.
yes you can thinking only of your profit, same of the biggest company in the world who participate to kill all people in the world for make more profit ...

[Kapz786]

Arent there plenty of datacentres that include internet/electricity that will host most miners for anywhere between $100-$150 a month? I think all these obscure idea's wont be anywhere near as competitive as that considering

No, WTF?

Most of us dont live next door to a data center much less even know of one where such is feasible. I mean Christ I live 2+ hours away from the outskirts of Atlanta, thats the closest major city near me.

This idea wont work for like 99.9999% of people.

Who said you need to live near one? The whole point is they host it and you get remote access to it 24/7 you would obviously need to ship it/drop it off to them but then that's it its not like you are going there everyday to reset the rig etc. Look at https://www.oregonmines.com/ the business model does have merit

A few months back there were mainstream datacentre's that allowed you to rent a server and you could send in a single graphics card (at your own cost) and they would allow you to mine with it on your rented server as long as you leased it for. Once the crypto profitability shot up it became a bit too much work but there certainly was such a service

[shaninium]

The key here is to not get caught using the electricity. To not use too much power but enough to make it worthwhile long term. Hotels/ motels have a daily cost which erodes any reasonable profit. Unless your employer is paying for the room its not really worth it. Nows heres a scam that could  work..
Truck drivers have a few things that might work, if their load is refrigerated , they have a little excess space  ( either in the travel compartment or in the cooled storage area) , a Power source- a powerful alternator/ multiple batteries and a internet connection ( mobile or satellite depending on reception on the travel route.) Then couldnt they mine too on the companys dollar. Yes fuel consumption  would rise keeping everything cooled and mining. Water cooled rigs or custom cooled asics could be used inside the refrigerated compartment and the radiator for them installed outside the truck. When the truck driver sleeps the rigs may need to be shut down or more batteries installed to run them while alternator is off. ( Any cold storage truckers let me know how this works or if you even rest between destinations.) Truckers are paid well but this doing this and being undetected on every hour they work could add up longterm. Btw some people reading this thread may be laughing but when your paying .25usd/kwh and 1.2usd a day just to have a power  connection u wouldnt be laughing. However condensation on the miners could be an issue, but i figure cooling these days is  more frost free and low humidity then it used to be.

[spoonminer]

I love all the people complaining about stealing electricity. While the idea of unsecured rigs and moving them around is the real actual issue, people seem so conditioned to just reply "stealing electricity!!!!!! you are a bad bad man" Chill out, a 6 card rig uses like $2-4/day. In hotels, you're going to stay only a few nights. Big deal....

[gotminer]

I love all the people complaining about stealing electricity. While the idea of unsecured rigs and moving them around is the real actual issue, people seem so conditioned to just reply "stealing electricity!!!!!! you are a bad bad man" Chill out, a 6 card rig uses like $2-4/day. In hotels, you're going to stay only a few nights. Big deal....

Why don't you just call up a hotel, explain what you want to do, and ask for permission?  If it violates a fair use of utilities clause, it is stealing.  Theft is theft.  Doesn't matter if it's a candy bar or a truck load of flat screen tv's.  The dollar amount isn't what I have a problem with.  The moral compass of the person who is willing to do it without permission is what I have the problem with.  Slippery slope people.

[Agozyen]

another cool fantasy for if profitability goes back up is to carry a rig around to cheap hotels and use the ac to cool it and the rig brings in the cost of the hotel.  I have a small ish 6 card rig that is about the size of a suitcase that could have brought in 40 dollars a day 2 weeks ago. 

Imagine this same concept with higher profitability.  You could travel for free.  My only question is how would airplanes feel about a mining rig in checked luggage?   Customs? 

I'd love to set this up in southeast asia and spend about 20 dollars a day on the hotel. 10 on food and live a life of free travel.  Just be worried about the rig being stolen.

I almost did this.  I had a job that required a lot of travel but I was laid off before I could get this off the ground.  Flying with something like this would have been a nightmare, I did all my traveling by car.  I think there's a market for small portable self-contained miners that people could plug in at work and mine with too. 

[gotminer]

another cool fantasy for if profitability goes back up is to carry a rig around to cheap hotels and use the ac to cool it and the rig brings in the cost of the hotel.  I have a small ish 6 card rig that is about the size of a suitcase that could have brought in 40 dollars a day 2 weeks ago. 

Imagine this same concept with higher profitability.  You could travel for free.  My only question is how would airplanes feel about a mining rig in checked luggage?   Customs? 

I'd love to set this up in southeast asia and spend about 20 dollars a day on the hotel. 10 on food and live a life of free travel.  Just be worried about the rig being stolen.

I almost did this.  I had a job that required a lot of travel but I was laid off before I could get this off the ground.  Flying with something like this would have been a nightmare, I did all my traveling by car.  I think there's a market for small portable self-contained miners that people could plug in at work and mine with too. 

Yeah, it's called a usb miner.  Just don't expect much profit at the risk of losing your job.  We fired someone at work for plugging in a wifi access point, so good luck with smuggling in a gpu mining rig ... Lol. 

[wheelz1200]

The amount you make off of rigs would be a lot of work unless you just stayed at the same hotel month long and wven then i dont know i would want to stay at a hotel that you pay 5-10 a night at. 

[gotminer]

The amount you make off of rigs would be a lot of work unless you just stayed at the same hotel month long and wven then i dont know i would want to stay at a hotel that you pay 5-10 a night at. 

Exactly ... It's not like you're going to be able to go to a hotel and plug in several rigs (30 gpu's) in one room.  Lights out my friend.  Lol ... Aside from the fact that I don't think it is morally right, it's just a stupid idea that wouldn't be worth the hassle.  Hope it's an all-inclusive resort, because you wouldn't be able to afford to eat and pay to rent the room.

[STATIK]

I'd suggest getting a job at a nuclear facility in Russia. Free electricity and free miners 

[otto_diesel]

i think it's a fantasy as you said, hotel staff will detect you if you try a action like this, because there are separate electricity counter for every room. they can detect it easily.

[hack4love]

come to my  home free electricity  just we pay 5 $  fixed every month 

[gotminer]

come to my  home free electricity  just we pay 5 $  fixed every month 

Sure.  And then I get shot dead, you keep my rig.  How will you dispose of my body?  In your country, probably easy.

[spoonminer]

I love all the people complaining about stealing electricity. While the idea of unsecured rigs and moving them around is the real actual issue, people seem so conditioned to just reply "stealing electricity!!!!!! you are a bad bad man" Chill out, a 6 card rig uses like $2-4/day. In hotels, you're going to stay only a few nights. Big deal....

Why don't you just call up a hotel, explain what you want to do, and ask for permission?  If it violates a fair use of utilities clause, it is stealing.  Theft is theft.  Doesn't matter if it's a candy bar or a truck load of flat screen tv's.  The dollar amount isn't what I have a problem with.  The moral compass of the person who is willing to do it without permission is what I have the problem with.  Slippery slope people.

Ok, so how is plugging in your laptop, phone, or toothbrush (as suggested above) not stealing? A hair dryer can use upwards of 2000w. A hotel guest could use anywhere from $0.01 to $1.00 in electricity fairly easily. Would taking 6 showers and blow drying my hair each time for 1 hour in one day be theft? No, you'd just be considered a weirdo.

Why is mining viewed differently? Where do you draw the line on energy consumption? Unless a hotel establishes a rule on maximum power consumption, what is the definition of stealing? One could make the argument that you can max out the breaker on the room for the entire time you have the room booked. As also noted above, many asian hotels only turn on the lights when you insert your room card by the door thereby establishing what acceptable energy use is: when you're in the room.

[gotminer]

I love all the people complaining about stealing electricity. While the idea of unsecured rigs and moving them around is the real actual issue, people seem so conditioned to just reply "stealing electricity!!!!!! you are a bad bad man" Chill out, a 6 card rig uses like $2-4/day. In hotels, you're going to stay only a few nights. Big deal....

Why don't you just call up a hotel, explain what you want to do, and ask for permission?  If it violates a fair use of utilities clause, it is stealing.  Theft is theft.  Doesn't matter if it's a candy bar or a truck load of flat screen tv's.  The dollar amount isn't what I have a problem with.  The moral compass of the person who is willing to do it without permission is what I have the problem with.  Slippery slope people.

Ok, so how is plugging in your laptop, phone, or toothbrush (as suggested above) not stealing? A hair dryer can use upwards of 2000w. A hotel guest could use anywhere from $0.01 to $1.00 in electricity fairly easily. Would taking 6 showers and blow drying my hair each time for 1 hour in one day be theft? No, you'd just be considered a weirdo.

Why is mining viewed differently? Where do you draw the line on energy consumption? Unless a hotel establishes a rule on maximum power consumption, what is the definition of stealing? One could make the argument that you can max out the breaker on the room for the entire time you have the room booked. As also noted above, many asian hotels only turn on the lights when you insert your room card by the door thereby establishing what acceptable energy use is: when you're in the room.

That doesn't establish what acceptable energy use is.  If you want to know the answer to that question, ask the hotel chain.  The entire idea is a bad idea for many other reasons that have been brought up already. 

[shaninium]

I love all the people complaining about stealing electricity. While the idea of unsecured rigs and moving them around is the real actual issue, people seem so conditioned to just reply "stealing electricity!!!!!! you are a bad bad man" Chill out, a 6 card rig uses like $2-4/day. In hotels, you're going to stay only a few nights. Big deal....

Why don't you just call up a hotel, explain what you want to do, and ask for permission?  If it violates a fair use of utilities clause, it is stealing.  Theft is theft.  Doesn't matter if it's a candy bar or a truck load of flat screen tv's.  The dollar amount isn't what I have a problem with.  The moral compass of the person who is willing to do it without permission is what I have the problem with.  Slippery slope people.

Ok, so how is plugging in your laptop, phone, or toothbrush (as suggested above) not stealing? A hair dryer can use upwards of 2000w. A hotel guest could use anywhere from $0.01 to $1.00 in electricity fairly easily. Would taking 6 showers and blow drying my hair each time for 1 hour in one day be theft? No, you'd just be considered a weirdo.

Why is mining viewed differently? Where do you draw the line on energy consumption? Unless a hotel establishes a rule on maximum power consumption, what is the definition of stealing? One could make the argument that you can max out the breaker on the room for the entire time you have the room booked. As also noted above, many asian hotels only turn on the lights when you insert your room card by the door thereby establishing what acceptable energy use is: when you're in the room.

That doesn't establish what acceptable energy use is.  If you want to know the answer to that question, ask the hotel chain.  The entire idea is a bad idea for many other reasons that have been brought up already.  

What about people who take soaps and shampoo and robes , and have multiple long hot showers, are they stealing too? Hotels expect some people to do this, its factored into the price of the room. What if two women were getting ready to go out, both using hair dryers at same time or boiling a kettle and doing their hair. Has anyone in history ever overloaded a hotel room circuit? I dont think it happens because its extra effort for the hotel to stop what theyre doing and  fix your power or call for maintenance. A kettle would use around 2400w and 2000-2400w (240v) for a decent hair dryer. Thats 4400- 4800w you could use to run your rigs on just 2 outlets, even if it means disconnecting the tv. Forget proper rigs just put a riserless rig like a pandaminer in a large suitcase and use your phone/tablet/laptop as a monitor. Carrying a few heavy suitcases wont arouse  suspicion especially  if you have multiple people per hotel room carrying each suitcase or just use asics and fit a few of them per a suitcase.