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February 06, 2018, 03:32:25 PM
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Good Day to everyone.
I would like to know if it is a must to add merit count requirements when participating into a campaign, I mean is it better to hire applicants with merits or by basing on their quality post? I have seen yahoo62278 start to come up with the idea of accepting applicants with merits for high payments  but also accepted applicants without merits since the merit feature is fresh.

For clarification, do managers have to hire applicants with merits in a must or not?

Please do correct me if I'm wrong or if I have said something unnecessary.
Thanks for the consideration.
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February 06, 2018, 03:49:54 PM
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For clarification, do managers have to hire applicants with merits in a must or not?

Currently it is not compulsory. But with so many members competing, we can see merit as requirement as well for participating in signature campaigns.
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February 06, 2018, 03:57:25 PM
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It's not much required but soon it will be compulsory to participate in the signature campaign and it can only be earned through quality post made in the threads.
The merit will help judging the best with those who actually make irrelevant or off topic posts.
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February 06, 2018, 04:03:23 PM
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For clarification, do managers have to hire applicants with merits in a must or not?

For clarification, the merit system has been implemented to curb the shitposters and account farmers. This forum was the garbage can for the oneliner shitposters to farm accounts - because earlier the post count and activity was what was necessary for ranking up.

Managers like yahoo are very much in agreement with this since they also want quality posters here and not shitposters obviously. If he applies this rule is signature campaigns then its a good move on his part.

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February 06, 2018, 04:08:59 PM
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Good Day to everyone.
Good evening.
I would like to know if it is a must to add merit count requirements when participating into a campaign
No.
I mean is it better to hire applicants with merits or by basing on their quality post?
No. IMHO It should be based on their post quality not merits.
I have seen yahoo62278 start to come up with the idea of accepting applicants with merits for high payments  but also accepted applicants without merits since the merit feature is fresh.
He can do whatever he wants to do, he is signature campaign manager. He can kick you without any reason and he doesn't have to explain anything and he doesn't need to explain rules of his campaign to anyone.
For clarification, do managers have to hire applicants with merits in a must or not?
No. But if they do - their campaign their rules.

But with so many members competing, we can see merit as requirement as well for participating in signature campaigns.
Competing? You guys really don't get it, do you?

The merit will help judging the best with those who actually make irrelevant or off topic posts.
No it won't. You can write hundred shitposts and create one nice and constructive topic and receive merits for it.
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February 06, 2018, 04:11:18 PM
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Although it would have been unfair to those people who are really posting qualitative and constructive post but are not getting credit for it, because of the limited number s-merits sendable or they only select the members that they like. But that's life we would need to embrace and accept the challenge, but for me it is much needed for ranking up not necessarily for joining any campaigns but it would be a great help for managers if he/she requires it.

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February 06, 2018, 04:12:35 PM
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I also heard that such requirement is our nearly future. I guess it is going to be very common for well paid campaigns, but bounties will stay more loyal as usual. The necessary minimum to enter a signature campaign is goin to be the same as all old users got automatically after merit was involved (member - 10, full member - 50 and so on), se we have nothing to worry about, but new users have.
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February 06, 2018, 08:06:43 PM
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Good Day to everyone.
I would like to know if it is a must to add merit count requirements when participating into a campaign, I mean is it better to hire applicants with merits or by basing on their quality post? I have seen yahoo62278 start to come up with the idea of accepting applicants with merits for high payments  but also accepted applicants without merits since the merit feature is fresh.

For clarification, do managers have to hire applicants with merits in a must or not?

Please do correct me if I'm wrong or if I have said something unnecessary.
Thanks for the consideration.
Managers like yahoo62278 are only trying to impose what's bitcoin forum required users to have. If campaigns will accept participants whether they have no merit at all people will not be obliged to work on their post quality and continue doing what they want. The merit system was implemented to control the forum and it should be applied even in campaigns or any business inside this site.
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February 06, 2018, 09:43:13 PM
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Good Day to everyone.
I would like to know if it is a must to add merit count requirements when participating into a campaign, I mean is it better to hire applicants with merits or by basing on their quality post? I have seen yahoo62278 start to come up with the idea of accepting applicants with merits for high payments  but also accepted applicants without merits since the merit feature is fresh.

For clarification, do managers have to hire applicants with merits in a must or not?

Please do correct me if I'm wrong or if I have said something unnecessary.
Thanks for the consideration.
Managers like yahoo62278 are only trying to impose what's bitcoin forum required users to have. If campaigns will accept participants whether they have no merit at all people will not be obliged to work on their post quality and continue doing what they want. The merit system was implemented to control the forum and it should be applied even in campaigns or any business inside this site.

This is kind of a chicken and the egg problem - Campaigns just won't accept participants that can't have links on their banners - which will then push value of said accounts upwards and discourage users from giving out merit. So in the context of campaigns, merit is not a well thought out concept at all.

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February 06, 2018, 10:41:47 PM
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Campaigns just won't accept participants that can't have links on their banners
Hmm yes true the low ranks

which will then push value of said accounts upwards and discourage users from giving out merit.
Which then increases the value of said accounts (the low ranks?) Why though? If what i understand was correct, then you're contradicting what you've said.
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February 06, 2018, 10:45:57 PM
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Campaigns just won't accept participants that can't have links on their banners
Hmm yes true the low ranks

which will then push value of said accounts upwards and discourage users from giving out merit.
Which then increases the value of said accounts (the low ranks?) Why though? If what i understand was correct, then you're contradicting what you've said.

Ah mixed that up, meant to say it will greatly push up the value of accounts that can actually participate in these campaigns.

A second point is that this creates a flow of merit to people that already have merit, because lower ranked individuals that get sMerit will likely give to higher ranked users for a chance of reciprocated merit.

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February 06, 2018, 10:47:16 PM
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First of all imho sig bounty participants are getting payed for renting their signature and avatar space and the amount of the ads that could be placed there is limited by the rank, making overpayments for merited ones (like yahoo did in one of his campaigns) is just a sign of a good will from the side of the project. Anyway you need to get merits if you need to change your rank. Bounty managers are still have to check the post history of their applicants so it doesn't look like merit brings any significant changes.
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February 07, 2018, 03:33:26 AM
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I see this kind of requirement in every campaign in a good way, because it really enhances to all to come up with quality posts. With these also, participants are really assess how far they know about the crypto currency.

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February 07, 2018, 06:03:55 AM
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This is kind of a chicken and the egg problem - Campaigns just won't accept participants that can't have links on their banners - which will then push value of said accounts upwards and discourage users from giving out merit.
It will reduce the spam and shitposting in the forum which is all that happens everyday. We come here for a discussion on bitcoin or so and get the threads derailed by third world shitposters and scumbag account farmers to "I think its good" and "bitcoin is good" aka padded posts.

"Pushing the value of said accounts" - what exactly are you trying to imply? I believe you have connections to the people associated with buying and selling of accounts.

Nobody discorages users to give away merits - but the post must be convincing enough and engaaging to "gather" merit.

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So in the context of campaigns, merit is not a well thought out concept at all.
The opposite. The shitcampaigns run by alt-rings will slow down.

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February 07, 2018, 06:09:03 AM
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It is a good idea but there is one downside to this. If there is requirement like having at least 1-2 earned merits, we will see members buying these if they have not got any for their posts.
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February 07, 2018, 07:38:13 AM
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Good Day to everyone.
I would like to know if it is a must to add merit count requirements when participating into a campaign, I mean is it better to hire applicants with merits or by basing on their quality post? I have seen yahoo62278 start to come up with the idea of accepting applicants with merits for high payments  but also accepted applicants without merits since the merit feature is fresh.

For clarification, do managers have to hire applicants with merits in a must or not?

Please do correct me if I'm wrong or if I have said something unnecessary.
Thanks for the consideration.
Following their rules and regulations must have no problem,I think yahoo wants us to improved  our post to be constructive and helpful in the forum.We should learn more to avoid shitposting and off topic to make  a high paid in signature campaign and also to gained more knowledge in crypto.
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February 07, 2018, 07:45:40 AM
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I think it will be difficult to get merit, especially for me who is new in this forum, I do not know how to get merit. very detrimental to new accounts if bounty payments are based on merit.

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February 07, 2018, 08:00:59 AM
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I think it will be difficult to get merit, especially for me who is new in this forum, I do not know how to get merit. very detrimental to new accounts if bounty payments are based on merit.

Very detrimental indeed. Huh

This was precisely the reason why the merit system was added. People who come to this forum with a hundred alt accounts to claim shitcoins airdrops and bounties.

Grow your account by making quality posts as simple as that.

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February 07, 2018, 08:11:33 AM
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Based on this idiotic thread, I think that I should increase the merit requirement for Full Member and above by another 1-2 hundred. Stop opening threads and asking reasonably stupid questions, such as this one:

For clarification, do managers have to hire applicants with merits in a must or not?

Nice merit farm you've created over here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827352.0. I can't believe how many users fell for that.

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February 07, 2018, 08:39:03 AM
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I would like to know if it is a must to add merit count requirements when participating into a campaign, I mean is it better to hire applicants with merits or by basing on their quality post?

There is no such requirement at the moment but campaign managers can make their additional rules. Merit would be helpful for them to identify the quality posters.

I have seen yahoo62278 start to come up with the idea of accepting applicants with merits for high payments  but also accepted applicants without merits since the merit feature is fresh.

Yes, that was good experiment at the current situation. if any user has less merit then it doesn't mean that they are shitposters, sometimes good posts are getting ignored and they receive less or no merit.

For clarification, do managers have to hire applicants with merits in a must or not?

No, its not compulsory. Campaign managers can include anyone if they identify them as a good poster.

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