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January 26, 2018, 01:46:06 PM
Merited by rickbig41 (2), Indrawan77 (2), wantjokull (2), boranes (2), yahoo62278 (1), hahay (1), iqlimasyadiqa (1), BTC-BTC-BTC (1), ralle14 (1), Oilacris (1), bL4nkcode (1), bhadz (1), AngelSky (1), Lanatsa (1), Hamphser (1), Doell (1), onrise (1), trickyriky (1), Rinsend (1), SamsungBitcoin (1), athanz88 (1), iasenko (1)
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I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

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For those who wants to receive merits for quality post. Check this thread, Challenging and Helpful.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3048258.0

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January 26, 2018, 03:36:55 PM
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I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

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Saddly, but many people are already selling/buying Merit points, for example here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827197.0
On local boards there are much more Merit sellers. There was people who got 20 or even 50 Merit for a low quality posts, it's obvious abuse of Merit system. Both, buyer and seller has to be reported to DT members and they will give them red trust rating.

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January 26, 2018, 03:48:32 PM
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I still hope for the best, but, based on your given link, he sells but there is no buyer, and don't worry about that account, it has red flags, a proof that he is not trust worthy and if ever somebody get into that it will be easily trace. And DT MEMBERS will take action to that.

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January 26, 2018, 05:51:17 PM
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Perhaps many buy and sell merit points in secret, I think it is very difficult to get merit points, most people will probably take a shortcut, maybe they have multiple accounts to send each other..



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January 26, 2018, 05:51:26 PM
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I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

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OP  is not asking attention, read and understand.  Obedience is better than sacrifice.


merit for me is important matter because merit is our evalution to bitcoin...it will show of our performance how to be cooperative and patient to all we posting...we must learn and give value to merit that we have and do not sale for it,,,we keep it...its shown our deducated to our work,
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January 26, 2018, 05:58:49 PM
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Perhaps many buy and sell merit points in secret, I think it is very difficult to get merit points, most people will probably take a shortcut, maybe they have multiple accounts to send each other..
this system is new and most of the merits goes to meta posts.
people need more time to know about this system. maybe 1-3 months is enough time to know if this system good or bad.
we have total 600,000 smerits and 36 sources.
let’s wait more time and Then we judge the system

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January 26, 2018, 06:00:41 PM
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I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

P.S.
OP  is not asking attention, read and understand.  Obedience is better than sacrifice.

I do not know who are selling smerits, But seen some of the DT members are exchanging the smerit each other as they have good rapport each other in the multiple projects. Funniest side they gave the merits for yes or no answer too.
I do not know how admin takes this. Implementation of merit score is good according to me. There is no higher and smaller guys to say the post quality is this or that. Let have the best quality in out show posts page. All will rid-off.

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January 26, 2018, 09:57:17 PM
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Perhaps many buy and sell merit points in secret,
They will be exposed soon in no time.

I think it is very difficult to get merit points, most people will probably take a shortcut, maybe they have multiple accounts to send each other..
There's no shortcut to success so if they will do it then they will be known and probably be tagged by DT's.

That's a desperate one, everyone is aware that merits are not for sale and it shouldn't be bought.

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January 26, 2018, 11:36:26 PM
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I stopped posting on reddit after a few valid points I made were downvoted into oblivion due to people disliking or failing to understand them. I understand a merit system doesn't have this effect. But I still think that upvote / downvote systems (and potentially merit systems to a degree) could introduce more negative implications into content and user classifications than they do promote positive quirks.

On the plus side, they could incentivize posters to try harder to make quality posts. It could be a good system in some respects. It could depend on how prevalent account farming is, here. To be effective the farming might have to be reduced as it opens up the system to greater exploitation. Pay for play "merit" isn't something I know much about. It would seem to be associated with farming, can't say I know much about that.

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On the plus side, they could incentivize posters to try harder to make quality posts. It could be a good system in some respects.

It already started to have that effect I noticed after theymos's implementation of the Merit 'system'. In some cases it's very obvious that people are posting in a very forced manner to obtain a Merit or two, but at least they put time and effort into their posts, and that's something we can all be happy with, and especially so when we're a few months away from now. I am glad that theymos allocated his precious time to getting this Merit system up and running -- people for so long were complaining about theymos to not do anything about spammers, and now it shows that he does actually do something to prevent further spamming.
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January 27, 2018, 01:18:30 AM
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On the plus side, they could incentivize posters to try harder to make quality posts. It could be a good system in some respects.

It already started to have that effect I noticed after theymos's implementation of the Merit 'system'. In some cases it's very obvious that people are posting in a very forced manner to obtain a Merit or two, but at least they put time and effort into their posts, and that's something we can all be happy with, and especially so when we're a few months away from now. I am glad that theymos allocated his precious time to getting this Merit system up and running -- people for so long were complaining about theymos to not do anything about spammers, and now it shows that he does actually do something to prevent further spamming.



Not exactly the same, but the general idea is the same.

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January 27, 2018, 01:26:00 AM
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That's a desperate one, everyone is aware that merits are not for sale and it shouldn't be bought.
It was just one random thread which I noticed. But take a look here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2823221.0
You can see how many people are suspected that they are abusing Merit system. So, not everyone aware that they shouldn't sell merits. And I'm sure that some of these people understand and know what they are doing and how they are risking

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January 27, 2018, 02:25:11 AM
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Perhaps many buy and sell merit points in secret, I think it is very difficult to get merit points, most people will probably take a shortcut, maybe they have multiple accounts to send each other..


I think selling Merit points is not prohibited by the moderators if im not wrong. We can't avoid that cheating we must be friendly too so that anyone would love your post and give a damn time to click add merit. It was just like owe your kindness when you give him for return.

That's a desperate one, everyone is aware that merits are not for sale and it shouldn't be bought.
It was just one random thread which I noticed. But take a look here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2823221.0
You can see how many people are suspected that they are abusing Merit system. So, not everyone aware that they shouldn't sell merits. And I'm sure that some of these people understand and know what they are doing and how they are risking

All of us wants to have merits but not in that way selling or buying LOL.  Also we couldn't control their accounts and when a shitposter could earn high merit, this system would be useless.

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January 27, 2018, 02:34:33 AM
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I really hope that merits would be given to deserving members of this forum. I hope merits will be used as a mechanism to corrupt other members and  I hope merits would no be given to friends or to people they know even if their posts are not up to par with other quality posts. I am really hopeful about this new system but I'm also skeptical about its implications on new members that are working their butts off just to work up and climb their rankings.

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January 27, 2018, 02:58:50 AM
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Perhaps many buy and sell merit points in secret, I think it is very difficult to get merit points, most people will probably take a shortcut, maybe they have multiple accounts to send each other..


I think selling Merit points is not prohibited by the moderators if im not wrong. We can't avoid that cheating we must be friendly too so that anyone would love your post and give a damn time to click add merit. It was just like owe your kindness when you give him for return.

That's a desperate one, everyone is aware that merits are not for sale and it shouldn't be bought.
It was just one random thread which I noticed. But take a look here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2823221.0
You can see how many people are suspected that they are abusing Merit system. So, not everyone aware that they shouldn't sell merits. And I'm sure that some of these people understand and know what they are doing and how they are risking

All of us wants to have merits but not in that way selling or buying LOL.  Also we couldn't control their accounts and when a shitposter could earn high merit, this system would be useless.


yeah this merit system would be useless if selling of merit points will chronic
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January 27, 2018, 03:05:32 AM
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I stopped posting on reddit after a few valid points I made were downvoted into oblivion due to people disliking or failing to understand them. I understand a merit system doesn't have this effect. But I still think that upvote / downvote systems (and potentially merit systems to a degree) could introduce more negative implications into content and user classifications than they do promote positive quirks.

On the plus side, they could incentivize posters to try harder to make quality posts. It could be a good system in some respects. It could depend on how prevalent account farming is, here. To be effective the farming might have to be reduced as it opens up the system to greater exploitation. Pay for play "merit" isn't something I know much about. It would seem to be associated with farming, can't say I know much about that.

I also stopped using Reddit for the exact reasons you stated. It's become an echo chamber in nearly every sub, and if you bring up a question that goes against the consensus, your karma will be ruined.

I agree that the merit system here is great, it will just need some tweaking especially with the supply. I think though a demerit system might not be a good idea for the exact reason that it might turn into Reddit.
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January 27, 2018, 03:45:09 AM
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I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

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OP  is not asking attention, read and understand.  Obedience is better than sacrifice.
We don't need to buy merits. Let's just make our post very useful and meaningful so that other user well send us merit because our post is constructive, useful, and meaningful. Don't buy merits because selling merit is not prohibited.
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January 27, 2018, 05:04:45 AM
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I can only see the new merit system being abused by those people with multiple accounts that he can use to rank up one of his accounts for his own benefits while the good quality poster will be ignored because no one really is interested to giving merits to anybody it will just become another task for them and it's a drag. And this merit system can also be exploited by many various ways such as selling it. I also heard that DT members is putting red flags on you for meritting someone and be accused that it is your dummy account.


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January 27, 2018, 10:26:16 AM
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That's a desperate one, everyone is aware that merits are not for sale and it shouldn't be bought.
It was just one random thread which I noticed. But take a look here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2823221.0
You can see how many people are suspected that they are abusing Merit system. So, not everyone aware that they shouldn't sell merits. And I'm sure that some of these people understand and know what they are doing and how they are risking
These people who really don't know how to follow a simple words of how the merit system shall be used. Just like what I've said yesterday if they keep on abusing the system.
They will be exposed soon in no time.

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January 27, 2018, 10:48:49 AM
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I hope everybody would be fair about this new feature implemented by admin theymos.
This thread is for the purpose of awareness that merit is given to a constructive and quality post. I have made a thread here in the market place section, hoping that there will not be such things like buying and selling merits. Let's work with our own asses.

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OP  is not asking attention, read and understand.  Obedience is better than sacrifice.
We don't need to buy merits. Let's just make our post very useful and meaningful so that other user well send us merit because our post is constructive, useful, and meaningful. Don't buy merits because selling merit is not prohibited.

Theirs no reason to buy those merits really since we can actually earn it by posting some good quality posts and helpful ones, But we cannot please anyone to act fair since as we can see on meta their are series of events that merit system has been abused and their are guys who willing to buy it but if they found out buying it they will earned bad stake for their actions.

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