Money2020, October 6-10, 2013 - Speakers list filled with Bitcoin and Ripple

[Stephen Gornick]

October 6-10, 2013 in Las Vegas will be Money2020 - 2013, a very large emerging payments conference in the U.S.

The speakers list shows Bitcoin will be present:

Patrick Murck, General Counsel, Bitcoin Foundation
Constance Choi, General Counsel, Payward
Megan Burton, CEO, CoinX
Fred Ehrsam, Co-Founder, Coinbase
Tony Gallippi, CEO, BitPay
Jered Kenna, CEO, Tradehill
Roger Ver, Founder, Representative, Blockchain  [Edit: see Roger's comment below]
Denis Kiselev, Founder & CEO, SnapSwap
Chris Larsen, CEO, OpenCoin
David Schwartz, Chief Cryptographer, Ripple
Stefan Thomas, CTO, Ripple
Bob Way, Integration Engineer, Ripple
Vinny Lingham, CEO, Gyft
Mike Vichich, CEO, Glyph  [Edit: Pfffft .... Oops, that speaker is from Glyph, not Gliph (http://Gli.ph).]

Other speakers that have or had Bitcoin-related significance:
Brian Keller-Heikkila, CTO, ZipZap
Kristo Kaarmann, CEO, TransferWise
Brett Meyers, CEO, CurrencyFair
Ben Milne, CEO, Dwolla
Steve Streit, CEO, Green Dot
David Wolman, Contributing Editor, Wired
David Birch, Managing Director, Consult Hyperion

 - http://money2020.com/speakers/year/2013


This will probably be the first time many in the financial, banking and payments industry will learn of Ripple (OpenCoin, SnapSwap -- a Bitcoin exchange and Ripple gateway).  A Ripple Dev Con will occur on the last day, October 10th:
 - https://ripple.com/blog/win-free-tickets-to-the-exclusive-money2020-ripple-developer-conference-and-50000-xrp

If I missed any, feel free to add them in a reply.

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[Stephen Gornick]

I think the only Bitcoin names from the 2012 conference were  ....

BitInstant ... whose principals were there just one day because they had another big gig that same week, and David Birch.  

I don't know that Payward's Jesse Powell was a speaker, but his epic "Bitcoin pitch" at a dinner table one evening during it got written up in this article:

This article is too awesome... Bitcoin FTW at Money2020
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130103.0
 - http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/the-future-of-money-its-not-in-your-hands/


Meanwhile in Las Vegas.....
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119732.0

[MemoryDealers]

Just to be clear,  I am NOT the founder of Blockchain,  and have already contacted Money 2020 to fix this error.
I'm simply representing Blockchain at the conference.

[Vycid]

Just to be clear,  I am NOT the founder of Blockchain,  and have already contacted Money 2020 to fix this error.
I'm simply representing Blockchain at the conference.

You're a class act, Roger. Why couldn't Blockchain come out themselves?

[b!z]

Sound pretty cool. There will be a lot of bright minds at the event.

[smoothie]

Just my input for anyone going to this event, don't listen to Chris Larson's talk. I found him to very dishonest in answering direct questions concerning ripple. I was sitting next to Cypher at the Bitcoin Conference in May when he was on the panel "answering" questions, so he can vouch for me on this.

[Conqueror]

Just my input for anyone going to this event, don't listen to Chris Larson's talk. I found him to very dishonest in answering direct questions concerning ripple. I was sitting next to Cypher when he was on the panel "answering" questions, so he can vouch for me on this.

So what is your opinion about Ripple Smothie?
So far I do not consider Ripple to be a cryptocurrency at all...

[smoothie]

Just my input for anyone going to this event, don't listen to Chris Larson's talk. I found him to very dishonest in answering direct questions concerning ripple. I was sitting next to Cypher when he was on the panel "answering" questions, so he can vouch for me on this.

So what is your opinion about Ripple Smothie?
So far I do not consider Ripple to be a cryptocurrency at all...

Centralized, closed-source, non-cryptocurrency, premined coin that was created for 1 reason: To enrich the founders.

[cypherdoc]

Just my input for anyone going to this event, don't listen to Chris Larson's talk. I found him to very dishonest in answering direct questions concerning ripple. I was sitting next to Cypher at the Bitcoin Conference in May when he was on the panel "answering" questions, so he can vouch for me on this.

I took it one step further that day. I went up to him after the panel to ask him specific questions.

I'm not sure if he's purposely being dishonest. Someone may have sold him a bill of goods. But he really couldn't answer any of my concerns regarding premining, centralization, closed source, debt, and the Big Dump.

Btw, wasn't the code supposed to be open sourced by now? .

[LiteCoinGuy]

Just my input for anyone going to this event, don't listen to Chris Larson's talk. I found him to very dishonest in answering direct questions concerning ripple. I was sitting next to Cypher when he was on the panel "answering" questions, so he can vouch for me on this.

So what is your opinion about Ripple Smothie?
So far I do not consider Ripple to be a cryptocurrency at all...

Centralized, closed-source, non-cryptocurrency, premined coin that was created for 1 reason: To enrich the founders.

+1 

...and they always appear on bitcoin events  

[charleshoskinson]

Maybe one day invictus will be invited to attend these events

[Rassah]

Oh jeez, I feel so bad for some of these people. They'll still be tired and jet-lagged from the previous weekend's convention. We promise to take good care of them and get them to you in one piece though 

[smoothie]

Oh jeez, I feel so bad for some of these people. They'll still be tired and jet-lagged from the previous weekend's convention. We promise to take good care of them and get them to you in one piece though 

Rassah,

Are you going to the event? 

[smoothie]

Just my input for anyone going to this event, don't listen to Chris Larson's talk. I found him to very dishonest in answering direct questions concerning ripple. I was sitting next to Cypher at the Bitcoin Conference in May when he was on the panel "answering" questions, so he can vouch for me on this.

I took it one step further that day. I went up to him after the panel to ask him specific questions.

I'm not sure if he's purposely being dishonest. Someone may have sold him a bill of goods. But he really couldn't answer any of my concerns regarding premining, centralization, closed source, debt, and the Big Dump.

Btw, wasn't the code supposed to be open sourced by now? .

I totally forgot about you doing this. Thanks for reminding me and for those who didn't know.

Just keep a keen eye when listening to representatives of Ripple at these events. I'm not saying they are scammers, just that much of their answers to important questions are never really direct and always have caveat for an excuse to justify why Ripple is the way it is.

Anyone going to this event, be sure to have some fun, heck this is BITCOIN.

[Rassah]

Oh jeez, I feel so bad for some of these people. They'll still be tired and jet-lagged from the previous weekend's convention. We promise to take good care of them and get them to you in one piece though 

Rassah,

Are you going to the event? 

No, I'll be "taking good care" of some of the people who are going to this event at my event in Amsterdam the week before.

[nameface]

Just my input for anyone going to this event, don't listen to Chris Larson's talk. I found him to very dishonest in answering direct questions concerning ripple. I was sitting next to Cypher at the Bitcoin Conference in May when he was on the panel "answering" questions, so he can vouch for me on this.

Chris Larsen did an excellent job at that panel. He answered every question very directly, and left the entire room more than satisfied.
I get that maybe you don't like Ripple because it's not open source yet, or for wtvr other reasons, but that's no reason to attack someone's character with false accusations of dishonesty.

wasn't the code supposed to be open sourced by now? .

All they have said is that they will open source it soon. JoelKatz has been working really hard on it and states that he will consider it a personal failure if it is not open sourced by the end of the year.

[smoothie]

Just my input for anyone going to this event, don't listen to Chris Larson's talk. I found him to very dishonest in answering direct questions concerning ripple. I was sitting next to Cypher at the Bitcoin Conference in May when he was on the panel "answering" questions, so he can vouch for me on this.

Chris Larsen did an excellent job at that panel. He answered every question very directly, and left the entire room more than satisfied.
I get that maybe you don't like Ripple because it's not open source yet, or for wtvr other reasons, but that's no reason to attack someone's character with false accusations of dishonesty.

wasn't the code supposed to be open sourced by now? .

All they have said is that they will open source it soon. JoelKatz has been working really hard on it and states that he will consider it a personal failure if it is not open sourced by the end of the year.

You have two people claiming the same thing in this very thready (Cypherdoc and I) and you claiming the opposite.

It isn't a personal attack. I am attacking the actions of him being dishonest, NOT Chris Larsen as a person. Let's be absolutely clear on that.

AS the saying goes, "hate the actions of a person, not the person."

[QuestionAuthority]

The Standard Fee for general admission is $2,590. Not much left for hookers and gambling after paying that fee. I will be in Las Vegas the week of 6-10 but I can think of a few better uses for $2,600 while I'm there. 

[nameface]

The Standard Fee for general admission is $2,590. Not much left for hookers and gambling after paying that fee. I will be in Las Vegas the week of 6-10 but I can think of a few better uses for $2,600 while I'm there.  

If you "tell a friend" you can get in for only $1,968. There's enough savings there for at least few lap dances.

[QuestionAuthority]

The Standard Fee for general admission is $2,590. Not much left for hookers and gambling after paying that fee. I will be in Las Vegas the week of 6-10 but I can think of a few better uses for $2,600 while I'm there.  

If you "tell a friend" you can get in for only $1,968. There's enough savings there for at least few lap dances.

You're one of those glass-half-full kind of guys, aren't you? lol

[smoothie]

The Standard Fee for general admission is $2,590. Not much left for hookers and gambling after paying that fee. I will be in Las Vegas the week of 6-10 but I can think of a few better uses for $2,600 while I'm there.  

Wow. The bitcoin conf in may was $300.

Definitely overpriced in my view.  

Edit: I must say 400+ speakers is impressive. Not sure that in 5 days as opposed to 3 days the price is justified.

(shrug).

[Sukrim]

The Standard Fee for general admission is $2,590.

Well, if USD decrease in value a modest 2% per year due to inflation, after 2025 these 2590 USD are worth less than 2000 USD are now.

About the (seemingly endless) Ripple debate - what do you honestly expect? To have the CEO of OpenCoin start to cry and sob and shout "I should have released the source code long ago, I am such a bad bad person!"? I haven't seen the Q&A session you were talking about, so I can't judge whether he was just wiggling out of some questions or if questions were just things that people just didn't get (like Ripple != XRP, you'll likely need XRP worth less than one of your wire fees from MtGox ever in your lifetime).

[nameface]

You're one of those glass-half-full kind of guys, aren't you? lol

At first I thought: "$2,000!!! That's insane." Then I thought: "Well, it's a five day thing aimed at financial industry people, they're supposed to be able to afford it."
This is how I know I'm a small fish. I can't afford it (I will be at the Ripple Developer conference on the 10th)

[QuestionAuthority]

You're one of those glass-half-full kind of guys, aren't you? lol

At first I thought: "$2,000!!! That's insane." Then I thought: "Well, it's a five day thing aimed at financial industry people, they're supposed to be able to afford it."
This is how I know I'm a small fish. I can't afford it (I will be at the Ripple Developer conference on the 10th)

It's not so much that we're small fish as it is that we aren't in business and don't need to spend the money. For most of these guys it's a business tax write off and they need to be there to promote themselves. I'll end up doing the same thing I did at the Hotel Kabuki in San Francisco (I'll find a way to crash the gate and go in for a few minutes or stand outside with a Bitcoin t-shirt until someone approaches me and strikes up a conversation). I'm staying at the Wynn so it shouldn't be difficult. lol

[nameface]

same thing I did at the Hotel Kabuki in San Francisco (I'll find a way to crash the gate and go in for a few minutes or stand outside with a Bitcoin t-shirt until someone approaches me and strikes up a conversation).

Maybe I'll try that  
Thanks for the tip, I owe you a drink if we meet up down there.

[QuestionAuthority]

same thing I did at the Hotel Kabuki in San Francisco (I'll find a way to crash the gate and go in for a few minutes or stand outside with a Bitcoin t-shirt until someone approaches me and strikes up a conversation).

Maybe I'll try that  
Thanks for the tip, I owe you a drink if we meet up down there.

Sounds good - see you there.

[captemmy]

And ripple is just about to go open source on Sept 26, so this should be some good content at the conference.

[Stephen Gornick]

Bitcoin sets the agenda on day one of Money2020 conference
 - http://finextra.com/News/FullStory.aspx?newsitemid=25294

[isnowblind]

Hi,

I am still waiting for my funds to be returned by Tradehill / Jered Kenna from the first time Tradehill closed its business. About 6 months ago I sent an email to Tradehill, Jered responded, confirmed my account balance and requested a BTC address so he could send the funds. He said he would send out the funds but never did. I have sent multiple gentle 'reminder' emails to both his address and the info address but have never received a response.

Has anyone heard from him or received funds recently?

Thanks