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July 15, 2011, 05:27:08 AM
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I firmly believe every individual should be on equal grounds with criminals, thieves and other threats that may aggress against them. You can only engage people through force or reason. I want to eliminate force as a viable option for aggressors as much as possible.

So, the overall objective of my venture is to derive value from protecting life and encouraging peace by putting protection in the hands of people in exchange for Bitcoins. Specifically, I will be selling self-defense devices and tools which will include batons, stun guns, knives and related accessories.

My question is what tools do you envision yourself using? What are your preferences when it comes to self-defense? I ask this in order serve all of your needs optimally.

Thank you!
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July 15, 2011, 05:34:08 AM
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I will be selling self-defense devices and tools which will include batons, stun guns, knives and related accessories.
Talk about a best defense being a great offense lol, what happened to shields, gas masks, and helmets.  I guess there are three items.   I would say pepper spray but it's so tame compared to everything else listed, I think would only be good for cooking.

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July 15, 2011, 05:42:10 AM
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I will be selling self-defense devices and tools which will include batons, stun guns, knives and related accessories.
Talk about a best defense being a great offense lol, what happened to shields, gas masks, and helmets.  I guess there are three items.   I would say pepper spray but it's so tame compared to everything else listed, I think would only be good for cooking.
I will definitely consider offering gas masks in case of volcanoes or other environmental disaster. Pepper spray will be offered if there is sufficient demand but I see little advantages over more accurate, sounder tools.

In addition, food for thought:

...the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some. When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.

- The Gun is Civilization

I may not be offering full-fledged firearms but I am offering the next best thing, if not better in most cases, since my tools can usually only incapacitate life and not terminate it.

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July 15, 2011, 05:43:40 AM
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Pepper spray is good because it's non-lethal and carries less stiff penalties for those in jurisdictions that prohibit people from using armed force to defend themselves.
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July 15, 2011, 05:47:23 AM
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Pepper spray is good because it's non-lethal and carries less stiff penalties for those in jurisdictions that prohibit people from using armed force to defend themselves.
That's not to say stun guns are non-lethal if used properly. In addition, pepper spray is actually regulated in more states than stun guns.
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July 15, 2011, 05:51:11 AM
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Idea for the store.  Non "usual" items that people generally use as protection, but are not meant to be that way.   Like a baseball bat.   Sell an iron.  Seriously too, the images of the household items together with the actual gear will be kind of amusing, but have a little reality to it too.   And as long as all items are actually purchasable, who knows what else you might sell more than your gear (which really, it is up to the user what they consider gear, thus this thread).

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July 15, 2011, 05:54:43 AM
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Idea for the store.  Non "usual" items that people generally use as protection, but are not meant to be that way.   Like a baseball bat.   Sell an iron.  Seriously too, the images of the household items together with the actual gear will be kind of amusing, but have a little reality to it too.   And as long as all items are actually purchasable, who knows what else you might sell more than your gear (which really, it is up to the user what they consider gear, thus this thread).

Certainly. I will keep my perspective open.

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July 15, 2011, 05:57:52 AM
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That's not to say stun guns are non-lethal if used properly. In addition, pepper spray is actually regulated in more states than stun guns.

Good point. I think mace can be more effective than a stun-gun in some situations, like multiple assailants.
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July 15, 2011, 05:59:01 AM
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July 15, 2011, 06:26:21 AM
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My house is in a bad area of town (long story) and I am afraid that my house might come under siege by local gang members.

Can you get me non-lethal tools for dispersing crowds of gangsters, like those claymores filled with rubber balls/pepper spray pellets?

Thanks in advance.
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July 15, 2011, 06:27:15 AM
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I dont think I need much more then what I all ready have, my Ruger P-89.


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July 15, 2011, 06:28:49 AM
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I dont think I need much more then what I all ready have, my Ruger P-89.



I'm gonna need two of these too

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July 15, 2011, 06:38:48 AM
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I dont think I need much more then what I all ready have, my Ruger P-89.

That'll keep them tattoo'd freaks to keep their clothes on!   There are children on the Internet for God's sakes.  Won't somebody think of the children. 




Also for the store, maybe rubber bullets?  I don't know the laws regarding firearm shit, so are bullets just bound basically by gun laws or it's free game, anyone can sell?   

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July 15, 2011, 06:41:04 AM
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I dont think I need much more then what I all ready have, my Ruger P-89.

That'll keep them tattoo'd freaks to keep their clothes on!   There are children on the Internet for God's sakes.  Won't somebody think of the children. 




Also for the store, maybe rubber bullets?  I don't know the laws regarding firearm shit, so are bullets just bound basically by gun laws or it's free game, anyone can sell?   

No, it's free game, like how you don't have to pay taxes when you buy things on Amazon - the law works different when you sell over state borders. As far as I know, bullets, ammo, and guns are fine.
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July 15, 2011, 06:43:32 AM
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No, it's free game, like how you don't have to pay taxes when you buy things on Amazon - the law works different when you sell over state borders. As far as I know, bullets, ammo, and guns are fine.
I thought guns has a special process?   Basically when you buy a gun online, you are just getting from a shop locally that is registered with something or what not. I don't know all the specific titles of paperwork, but I swear that is how that goes down.

Also, I randomly searched Amazon for bullets, I am super surprised they don't sell them, but that must be a legal thing then.

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July 15, 2011, 06:48:13 AM
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I read the gun laws a long time ago. If memory serves me correctly, you can buy a gun over the internet but it cant be shipped to you. The gun must be shipped to an entity with a level 2 fire arms license or dealer. Basicly a level 2 license is someone able to sale fire arms.

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July 15, 2011, 06:48:46 AM
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No, it's free game, like how you don't have to pay taxes when you buy things on Amazon - the law works different when you sell over state borders. As far as I know, bullets, ammo, and guns are fine.
I thought guns has a special process?   Basically when you buy a gun online, you are just getting from a shop locally that is registered with something or what not. I don't know all the specific titles of paperwork, but I swear that is how that goes down.

Also, I randomly searched Amazon for bullets, I am super surprised they don't sell them, but that must be a legal thing then.

You probably just have to have a gun license in the state the gun is being delivered to.

I am also surprised there is no ammo on Amazon, could've sworn I bought some from there before...guess not.
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July 15, 2011, 06:51:34 AM
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You probably just have to have a gun license in the state the gun is being delivered to.
Nope!   MeSarah explained it specifically. That is how the law works.  I actually only know this because of the one dude who is selling guns for Bitcoin.  Or was, not sure how that is going.  He just owns a regular store but will accept Bitcoin as payment.  Trying to find his store link but can't atm.

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July 15, 2011, 06:52:43 AM
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I read the gun laws a long time ago. If memory serves me correctly, you can buy a gun over the internet but it cant be shipped to you. The gun must be shipped to an entity with a level 2 fire arms license or dealer. Basicly a level 2 license is someone able to sale fire arms.

Maybe he can just market it as an internet gun-show, since they don't have to keep records at gun shows.

Then he could just ship the unassembled weapon as parts or something.

I don't actually need one, but if you could actually get the pepper spray claymore that'd be cool
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July 15, 2011, 06:58:50 AM
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if you could actually get the pepper spray claymore that'd be cool
Ah, the things kids do with MRE's these days http://community.discovery.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9741919888/m/9781979179

A friend has a bunch of those in his car, I need to grab a few.

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