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[massnerder]

Forum Name: massnerder
Order Number: 646
Order Status: Processing
What you like to see happen:

• Wait for Avalon Gen 2 Chips then build out orders and 20% "Coupon" on Next Venture

  or

• 100% Refund right now

[duke1839]

Forum Name: Duke1839
Order number: 524
Order Status: Processing
What you would like to see happen:

Use money paid for next venture  (edit)

Or

100% refund ASAP

[bitcoin carpenter]

Bitcoin carpenter
507 1318

Im gonna go with a slightly different option

I think TH should allow a 70% return and give the 20% coupon as well
Leaving them 10% to build the gen 2 klondike for their own profit/cloudfarm

I and most others will probably reinvest the rest back with you once you have everything up and running

[Shimple]

Forum Name: Shimple
Order Number: 1230
Order Status: Processing
What you like to see happen: I would like a 100% refund right now, but I am willing to settle for 50% now and another 50% in a period of 3 months.

[bitcoin carpenter]

I would also consider 70 refund
And 20 percent towards a 50 50 reinvest if there was no extra preorder garbage

[AtomSea]

An upgrade package is only worth it if:

1. It includes a 20% coupon for a future Terrahash product.
2. The 55nm chip can hash at 2.5gig or better.
3. The price doesn't go up.
4. They can be converted to thrashers & shipped to my door by December 1st.

If this can be done, then I have two 18gig machines that I want upgraded.


That being said, I would like to get my 4.5 gig machine with the 110nm chips.
It will make for a nice new toy to play with.
Peace.

[bitcoin carpenter]

Thanks Bargraphics
It will be nice to have a thread devoted to getting things done

[ethought]

I would prefer if they could offer me some sort of product with a hashrate that reflects when units will be shipped.

5GH/s for $250 was only a good deal if it had been shipped in August. If they ship me 5GH/s unit in 3 months it will be a total waste of time and money. If they could ship me like a 10GH/s unit for what I paid when they are ready (provided I can get close to ROI at that power) - that would be acceptable.

[gidi337]

think we might just wait it out.  terrahash probably has good plan b.

[Bitoy]

For me it's wait for avalon gen 2. 

Some calculations if gen 2 is 10 x faster and fully backward compatible.

A k16 will be 45 gh
A k64 will be 180 Gh. 

Around $5 per gh

 if difficulty rises 25% every 11 days and delivery is  on December 4 , It will roi in btc by February 26, 2014.

http://btcinvest.net/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=86933017.771194&dcosts=250&diff_mincrease=25&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=45000&diff_mincreasedecrease=0.2&btcusd=130&dpowcon=70&btcusd_mincrease=0&pcost=0.11&calcweeks=25&dleadtime=8&action=calc#

It will all depend on how much will bitsyncom sell its chips and can they really deliver by end of oct.

The disadvantage of this is we are at the mercy of bitsyncom again. 
Posssible Advantage is chips may be  sold at a cheaper price to win back customers.

[Humax]

Forum Name: Humax
Order Number:630
Order Status: Processing
What you like to see happen: Full refund asap!

[AtomSea]

The problem is that one can't make a rational decision when all the facts are not known.

Unknowns:

1. We don't know the hash rate of the Avalon generation 2 chip.

2. We don't know when the chips can be shipped. (according to Steamboat it may be late November)

3. We still do not have any proof that the k16, let alone the k64, actually work. (Steamboat himself admits they still don't have a working k16, Terrahash has never proved it (code is not necessarily proof) and no one on the entire Klondike open-source thread has claimed victory and shown proof)


Question:
If while we are waiting for more information to answer 1-3, the 110nm chips are mailed off to Terrahash, does this lock us into the agreement and we have no chance to upgrade?



Other Issues:

A.  It appears that the open-source Klondike group has fallen apart (BKKcoin, the one that was the brains behind it, states that he doesn't even have a floor to work on, amongst other family stresses, and has appeared to have backed out), and the work isn't completed yet.

B.  Even if they are 2.5gig, Avalon has shown they can't meet shipping deadlines.


Thoughts:
I want to help out with research & development to support open-source projects, but a complete systemic failure is occurring here.

[AtomSea]

No, it doesn't.

I want more information.

[AtomSea]

Based on the lack of data, it is impossible to make an informed decision at this point.
We need to ask them for more information, then get a tally.

[bitcoin carpenter]

Ok then keep reasing the old thread and come back when your readt to tell TH what you want

[JakeTri]

Forum Name: JakeTri
Order number: 833
Order Status: Processing
What you would like to see happen: 100% Refund right now

Note: I posted multiple tickets with refund requests on the support page. My first refund request from July 4 was due to missing update/email for 2 weeks based on Terrahash own comment (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=198489.msg2520692#msg2520692).

On July 9 I received following reply from Amir:

All the products are made on order. We are unable to process your refund at this time, as we have already invested your money into sourcing the components and other equipment. Your products would be delivered within the promised time-frame

I tried to contact him again on this matter but that was the last reply from him on this matter.

[Tad3j]

Forum Name: Tad3j
Order number: 458
Order Status: Processing
What you would like to see happen: 100% Refund in any time or send out the ordered miner within 1 month

[duke1839]

Forum Name: Duke1839
Order number: 524
Order Status: Processing
What you would like to see happen:

Use money paid for next venture

Or

100% refund ASAP

I have changed my mind.  I am no longer interested in doing business with TerraHash and I would appreciate a full refund ASAP or I will be contacting an attorney.

[massnerder]

Forum Name: Duke1839
Order number: 524
Order Status: Processing
What you would like to see happen:

Use money paid for next venture

Or

100% refund ASAP

I have changed my mind.  I am no longer interested in doing business with TerraHash and I would appreciate a full refund ASAP or I will be contacting an attorney.

Yea, me too.  Given that they were 'ready' for so long and 'just waiting on chips'  but couldn't fill one order on time when given his chips speaks volumes.  Change my preference to just refund my BTC, I have no interest in being part of the next BFL ;p