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February 11, 2018, 03:47:41 AM
Last edit: February 13, 2018, 01:32:16 AM by NinjaMan35
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Posting this after reading this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2771716.msg29973077#msg29973077

Below is my the signage used in my original message to Cyrus. Did back far enough and you'll find it's me.

Ty.

Can and will sign new message upon request.

Name: MoreBloodWine (This came up once before but I got lucky: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1109340.msg11793010#msg11793010)

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-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is MoreBloodWine "the real one" from bitcointalk.org and today is 2018.02.03 or as some of you might write it 2/3/18. The asshole currently running my account has no permission to do so. I have never once thought abut selling or otherwise transferring my account here on bitcointalk.org !
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
HPnlyJfvMBDzDdQxC5RgwBLpUKotuu0mCHkPtl6CZ+fseVKzVtsq7kMgB6RkEDe3S19JE5v7GtGGTnZjz+OB4G4=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Needless to say, I can prove what my old avatar use to be, I know not worth a shit.

But the creme de la creme... I know what my old IP use to be before I moved from Pa to Va !
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-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is MoreBloodWine "the real one" from bitcointalk.org and today is 2018.02.03 or as some of you might write it 2/3/18. The asshole currently running my account has no permission to do so. I have never once thought abut selling or otherwise transferring my account here on bitcointalk.org !
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
HPnlyJfvMBDzDdQxC5RgwBLpUKotuu0mCHkPtl6CZ+fseVKzVtsq7kMgB6RkEDe3S19JE5v7GtGGTnZjz+OB4G4=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

This "signed" message you just provided is worthless. It is almost comical, but if you are unaware of how to sign a message : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0 this is the thread for you. You did not include a bitcoin address, so it can't be verified. You would definitely need a new signed address, with today's date and 110% would want to include your new account name "NinjaMan35" so that we know who is signing it. You're going to need to link proof of stake/association with whatever address you sign a message from that proves it belonged to your original account.

The avatar is meaningless, the IP address might be helpful to a staff member, but as far as I know it does not serve our purposes. I want to help you out in anyway I can, but I can't be going through all of your posts to figure out if you have any addresses associated, etc. You have to do the leg-work as it is your account, provide better information or nothing will get done about it. I would not expect Cyrus to respond to this message, because as I already mentioned it is missing a very important part of the equation.
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February 12, 2018, 03:30:52 AM
Last edit: February 12, 2018, 03:43:45 AM by NinjaMan35
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This "signed" message you just provided is worthless. It is almost comical, but if you are unaware of how to sign a message : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0 this is the thread for you. You did not include a bitcoin address, so it can't be verified. You would definitely need a new signed address, with today's date and 110% would want to include your new account name "NinjaMan35" so that we know who is signing it. You're going to need to link proof of stake/association with whatever address you sign a message from that proves it belonged to your original account.

The avatar is meaningless, the IP address might be helpful to a staff member, but as far as I know it does not serve our purposes. I want to help you out in anyway I can, but I can't be going through all of your posts to figure out if you have any addresses associated, etc. You have to do the leg-work as it is your account, provide better information or nothing will get done about it. I would not expect Cyrus to respond to this message, because as I already mentioned it is missing a very important part of the equation.
Previously Staked: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg11835426#msg11835426
Address: 1AKjJqVViFZGYat2BqerLPyYWscwVEPZht

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-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hello, my name is MoreBloodWine or currently know as NinjaMan35. My MoreBloodWine account has been fraudently sold by someone to it's "new" owner. I have never once contemplated selling my account as I value my status on every site I use. I am signing this message from the address 1AKjJqVViFZGYat2BqerLPyYWscwVEPZht today, Feb 11th 2018. I kindly request that the MoreBloodWine account be locked or negged with feedback until this matter has been resolved, Ty.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
G5fJ1zuWLFJlkTJ82b/p1BWxNKJYZ4gYSBewjN6PKG33HnRoGpE0HowhvPo7If9gxsat7akgg5DiV18BlO0xdC8=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Edit: Just for good measure, address first posted here best I can tell and my original post changed to a .

Original, now a . (period): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291387.msg8589427#msg8589427

Quoted said post showing address: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291387.msg8592386#msg8592386

Edit 2: If your search the forum for that address, it seems someone has gone to great lengths to remove it from all posts except those that are quoted.
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February 12, 2018, 05:02:29 AM
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Previously Staked: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg11835426#msg11835426
Address: 1AKjJqVViFZGYat2BqerLPyYWscwVEPZht

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-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hello, my name is MoreBloodWine or currently know as NinjaMan35. My MoreBloodWine account has been fraudently sold by someone to it's "new" owner. I have never once contemplated selling my account as I value my status on every site I use. I am signing this message from the address 1AKjJqVViFZGYat2BqerLPyYWscwVEPZht today, Feb 11th 2018. I kindly request that the MoreBloodWine account be locked or negged with feedback until this matter has been resolved, Ty.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
G5fJ1zuWLFJlkTJ82b/p1BWxNKJYZ4gYSBewjN6PKG33HnRoGpE0HowhvPo7If9gxsat7akgg5DiV18BlO0xdC8=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Original, now a . (period): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291387.msg8589427#msg8589427

Quoted said post showing address: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291387.msg8592386#msg8592386

it seems someone has gone to great lengths to remove it from all posts except those that are quoted.

Hackers tend to try to remove this evidence, which is why we have others quote it. Now this is the kind of stuff I was talking about. At least this gives you more credibility for your claims; obviously there are more checks that need to be done. People need to make sure that even if you are the owner that you didn't sell it specifically to reclaim it in this manner, or that you didn't simply manage to snag the private key to this address and concoct such a scenario.

Anyways, This message has been verified, and quoted as me for evidence if anyone wants to reference it or whatever. I have attached a picture of the message being verified in Core for further proof.

This should catch the attention of the mods or DT at the very least now.
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February 12, 2018, 05:10:19 AM
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Ty my friend. Any bit helps, as for waiting what I know is going to be a lengthy process, not thrilled. But will live, I just hope it doesn't take too terribly long, but I will try and furnish any further proof that is requested. As for private keys, it's not that simple. Mine is one of the more complicated once that has a very specific phrase attached to it.
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February 13, 2018, 12:27:36 AM
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Just making sure this stays topside, would like to see him go red with those beautiful warnings on all of his posts pages :-)

Ty.
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February 15, 2018, 01:28:24 AM
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Someone let this poor child fall down the well that is page 3, here ya go my little one.

Stay safe here til those nice DT's find ya.
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February 15, 2018, 02:01:47 AM
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You should private message some DT members and ask them to take a look at this thread. It might help get the account tagged in the meantime; I PM'd the 2 members of DT that had previously given the account a rating, one of them removed their rating but the other has not been online in quite some time. I am not sure how to proceed, but we've got a good foundation going for your case in my opinion.
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February 15, 2018, 02:06:02 AM
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You should private message some DT members and ask them to take a look at this thread. It might help get the account tagged in the meantime; I PM'd the 2 members of DT that gave the account a rating, one of them removed their rating but the other has not been online in quite some time. I am not sure how to proceed, but we've got a good foundation going for your case in my opinion.
I don't know who is DT, that was one of the few things I never really looked into. Surprised the one guy with such a compelling case would have removed his rating.

I assume you also mean tagged as in rated by DT's ?
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February 15, 2018, 02:09:42 AM
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I don't know who is DT, that was one of the few things I never really looked into. Surprised the one guy with such a compelling case would have removed his rating.

I assume you also mean tagged as in rated by DT's ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

Default depth is 2, everyone not crossed out (I think?) is on DT.
The user that removed their rating was a DT member that had left positive feedback for the account; I asked them to leave it a negative, but they said they are not yet compelled by your case/evidence so they simply removed their positive trust until they are more convinced.

Tag = Rate from DT, yes


I think MoreBloodWine is on DT now that I am looking at it, because of an addition from phillipma1957. I have sent then a PM to get involved.
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I don't know who is DT, that was one of the few things I never really looked into. Surprised the one guy with such a compelling case would have removed his rating.

I assume you also mean tagged as in rated by DT's ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

Default depth is 2, everyone not crossed out (I think?) is on DT.
The user that removed their rating was a DT member that had left positive feedback for the account; I asked them to leave it a negative, but they said they are not yet compelled by your case/evidence so they simply removed their positive trust until they are more convinced.

Tag = Rate from DT, yes


I think MoreBloodWine is on DT now that I am looking at it, because of an addition from phillipma1957. I have sent then a PM to get involved.

I will tag the account

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February 15, 2018, 03:18:26 AM
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philipma1957 has very quickly done their part towards locking down the account until we can figure out what is going on. I am not sure what other proof might be necessary, especially when we have heard nothing from the account and seen multiple red-flags that it has been hacked. You have provided proof of ownership over the staked address.

Thanks to philipma1957 we have gotten the account tagged with negative feedback for trust and removed from the Default Trust list. This will at least stop almost all abuse of the accounts in the meantime, until we can get it figured out.
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February 15, 2018, 04:19:46 AM
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Thx guys, especially you Philip. I just wish I could have caught this sooner like he one time you pointed out to me that someone mentioned to you I wasn't in control of my account when I was.

As for anyone unsure, let me know what I can do to prove I am who I say I am and I will try my best. But as Gator has pointed out, I'd like to think I've done a very good job of that right now.
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May 10, 2018, 02:21:42 AM
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I know things take time, especially with admins not caring so much about getting peoples accounts back even if they've proved beyond a doubt that an account was stolen. But this is starting to irk me !

I mean shit, you wana take 10yrs to get it back to me or not get it back to me at all, FINE... but lock the shit down so the asshole who currently has it can't keep using it !
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May 10, 2018, 11:46:42 PM
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I've been here with you every step of the way so far, and I've been trying to help every place I can. Now I only have one piece of advice to keep your process going smoothly. Delete your old "Bump" posts, or at least consolidate them into one. Your thread looks like a mess and this is against the guidelines and potentially the rules. Not sure or not if admins take action upon this kind of thing, but it is at the very least frowned upon and may hurt your cause. This is just my two-cents, but the last 5-posts in this thread are all you. Looks messy, please delete the old bumps before posting a new one.

The account has already been tagged with negative trust from a DT member. It is essentially "locked down". The person currently using it will be unable to use it for a profit through signature campaigns, which seems to be what they were doing previously. They also will be untrusted if they make any attempt to deal within the marketplace. The potential victim will be redirected to this thread and see that they are not someone to deal with.

I imagine if they actually "lock it down", then it will just take longer for you to get the account recovered and returned to regular operating status. Let this run it's course, clean up your thread and have a little faith.
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February 17, 2019, 05:41:13 AM
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Been almost a yr, so I figured why not.

Don't know if I recall seeing this before but if that, the "quote" w/ my original quote "backed up" by the link, were the case, how can I sign on it ?

Oh ya, because it's my account lol

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg11835426#msg11835426

I edit this post because i lost my access to blockchain.info wallet.  I am not able to sign message via blockchain address due to  new improved wallet without "sign feature" .

Address: 1AKjJqVViFZGYat2BqerLPyYWscwVEPZht

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hello, my name is MoreBloodWine or currently know as NinjaMan35. My MoreBloodWine account has been fraudently sold by someone to it's "new" owner. I have never once contemplated selling my account as I value my status on every site I use. I am signing this message from the address 1AKjJqVViFZGYat2BqerLPyYWscwVEPZht today, Feb 17th 2019. I kindly request that the MoreBloodWine account be returned to me, Ty.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
HPtcTWnPzJs47rWSxWEyAfojVyyOjibwR3f3Zxk6nPCnQPln3N40kQ0iREJlIfSME1gBS2/tAPV8uvyraM442b8=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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March 08, 2019, 07:51:56 AM
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Got the MoreBloodWine account back, will be working on it over the next few days to get "lockdown trust" removed.

This will still remain a backup account to be safe.

But can finally get back to my main !
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