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September 11, 2013, 08:08:36 PM
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So there has been a lot of uproar about the new Scrypt "Bitcoin". I have discussed it with the other Staff members, and we feel it is in the forum user's best interest to not allow topics about the Scrypt Bitcoin on Bitcointalk.

Now before people get all upset about the censorship, let me explain our position,

First off, it is incredibly confusing to the Bitcointalk members, and even more so to new members. Those that stay out of the Altcoin scene in general are at a high risk of being caught in some level of fraud facilitated by the Scrypt Bitcoin, due to its name.

Second, users stand the risk of financial loss. Improper downloading of the Scrypt Bitcoin can cause damage to your real Bitcoin wallet. This is a similar stance that the forums holds to Malware. Even if the Scrypt Bitcoin did not intend to do damage, the possibility for damage is great, especially to those who don't understand the risks.

This is not a crackdown on all things Scrypt Bitcoin, we are not going to ban members for mentioning it in passing or anything insane like that, however we do request that you do not create new threads about it, or any download links or service discussion threads about it. I will be talking to the people who have existing threads regarding the Scrypt Bitcoin and figuring out what to do about those. New threads will be moved to the trashcan.

There are no hard feelings toward the coin, or Dev, however like mentioned before, its just too confusing and risky to actively allow a coin which could harm the forum users as a whole. Should the Developer of the Scrypt Bitcoin decide to change the name of it, it is welcomed back here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask,

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September 11, 2013, 09:34:46 PM
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September 11, 2013, 09:55:22 PM
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As long as it's labelled properly as an Altcoin I don't really see why it needs to be 'removed' from the forum, while I personally take issue with any devs that laughably call their coin 'Gold', 'Real', 'Stable' ( I could go on but just glance at the alt currency forum and you'll see what I mean ) censorship of any kind no matter how people try to justify it is wrong. You guys have hardly ever outright banned well known scammers and frauds even I have heard of, I actually applauded you for that because it showed you weren't doing favouritism to certain people etc. and allowing people to intelligently make up their own minds about others but I think the only reason that you've taken out this particular coin is because it happens to have the same name as the forum. I think I'll be double checking my chat room now and see about re-uploading it so it all works properly because I'm getting pretty concerned about the way some of the forum staff are acting sometimes.

If you don't want it to damage other users do what you did with the scammers, inform people that the alt. currency has nothing to do with the original development of Bitcoin and it shouldn't be mistaken for it, job done, anything beyond that is peoples own stupidity and personal choice.
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September 11, 2013, 10:17:52 PM
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Actually that coin is really useful as a honeypot. I'm running both Scrypt and real bitcoin on the same machine. The fake bitcoin sitting in the default directory and the real one working with a -datadir switch Smiley.

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September 11, 2013, 11:19:00 PM
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It's kinda sad, because if they had just actually named it Bitcoin2, all these issues, would have been avoided.

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September 11, 2013, 11:27:39 PM
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It's kinda sad, because if they had just actually named it Bitcoin2, all these issues, would have been avoided.

Agreed, I was trying to get ahold of the Scrypt Bitcoin Dev, however they are pretty elusive. The first plan was to just have people put Disclaimers in their threads so everyone would know for certain which Bitcoin they were dealing with. The risk of having your Bitcoin wallet overwritten is why we aren't allowing Scrypt Bitcoin threads.

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September 11, 2013, 11:40:32 PM
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Is this "Scrypt Bitcoin" malevolent or just a silly idea ?

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September 11, 2013, 11:43:53 PM
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I think one name is not a problem. Most people do not use wallet and coins transferred from the pool to the exchange immediately. And those who use the wallet - are smart enough to rename the folder. Especially those who have a significant amount of BTC there.

But for convenience, we can rename it to bitcoin2 for myself. I think it does not have to be a developer. Since crypto belongs to no one in its essence.
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September 11, 2013, 11:44:44 PM
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Is this "Scrypt Bitcoin" malevolent or just a silly idea ?

Not intentionally so I don't believe, however since it has the same name and directories and such, if people don't go out of their way to get around it, the Scrypt Bitcoin will overwrite your SHA Bitcoin's files, losing your coin.

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September 11, 2013, 11:49:33 PM
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Is this "Scrypt Bitcoin" malevolent or just a silly idea ?

Not intentionally so I don't believe, however since it has the same name and directories and such, if people don't go out of their way to get around it, the Scrypt Bitcoin will overwrite your SHA Bitcoin's files, losing your coin.
Please try it. I did an experiment with a wallet with 0,001 BTC. In the end, nothing has gone nowhere!
The second network (Bitcoin-2) has created the same address (I send to this address 50 BTC2 and I receive them). All coins from "alien network" are located in UNCONFIRMED. Then, when I copy this wallet to original BTC and start client - I still have 0.001 BTC in my wallet and 50 BTC2 in UNCONFIRMED.
Now I have the same multi-address for BTC and BTC-2.
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September 12, 2013, 04:21:14 AM
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I think this coin will rise given it`s name and the fact that it`s scrypt/asic resistant . Competition anyone !?  Cheesy ... I like competition  Wink  Do you?
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September 12, 2013, 04:41:30 AM
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The idea of using the same name as an existing coin is idiotic. Continue to ban all talk about this bullshit coin released by an imbecile.

Thanks for your efforts.

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September 12, 2013, 05:33:34 AM
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The idea of using the same name as an existing coin is idiotic. Continue to ban all talk about this bullshit coin released by an imbecile.

Thanks for your efforts.
No, the idea of using the same name (Bitcoin) is GREAT!


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September 12, 2013, 05:37:07 AM
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I am a bit confused.  Are you saying no topics about any Scrypt coin (vs SHA256) or not topics about "Scrypt Bitcoin?" (not sure what that is.)
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September 12, 2013, 06:29:06 AM
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I am a bit confused.  Are you saying no topics about any Scrypt coin (vs SHA256) or not topics about "Scrypt Bitcoin?" (not sure what that is.)

No topics about the Scrypt alt-coin named 'Bitcoin'. All the other alt-coins (Scrypt or otherwise) are fine.
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September 12, 2013, 11:59:32 AM
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Well, damn.  And here I got all excited after mining 125,000 of these things

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September 12, 2013, 01:08:00 PM
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Well, damn.  And here I got all excited after mining 125,000 of these things
 Yea sure...like you have 600.000k hashing power in scrypt  Roll Eyes ..but if you do..keep it up, it`s gonna worth something
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September 12, 2013, 01:28:04 PM
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Soon will be renamed version (Bitcoin2) for convenience. Of course you do not lose your coins.
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Great descision with a lot of thought, keep up the good work!
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September 12, 2013, 02:18:08 PM
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So there has been a lot of uproar about the new Scrypt "Bitcoin". I have discussed it with the other Staff members, and we feel it is in the forum user's best interest to not allow topics about the Scrypt Bitcoin on Bitcointalk.

Now before people get all upset about the censorship, let me explain our position,

First off, it is incredibly confusing to the Bitcointalk members, and even more so to new members. Those that stay out of the Altcoin scene in general are at a high risk of being caught in some level of fraud facilitated by the Scrypt Bitcoin, due to its name.

Second, users stand the risk of financial loss. Improper downloading of the Scrypt Bitcoin can cause damage to your real Bitcoin wallet. This is a similar stance that the forums holds to Malware. Even if the Scrypt Bitcoin did not intend to do damage, the possibility for damage is great, especially to those who don't understand the risks.

This is not a crackdown on all things Scrypt Bitcoin, we are not going to ban members for mentioning it in passing or anything insane like that, however we do request that you do not create new threads about it, or any download links or service discussion threads about it. I will be talking to the people who have existing threads regarding the Scrypt Bitcoin and figuring out what to do about those. New threads will be moved to the trashcan.

There are no hard feelings toward the coin, or Dev, however like mentioned before, its just too confusing and risky to actively allow a coin which could harm the forum users as a whole. Should the Developer of the Scrypt Bitcoin decide to change the name of it, it is welcomed back here.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask,

SaltySpitoon


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