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October 15, 2013, 04:40:17 AM
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For the record I 100% believe you in the original reason for the ban. You went on the most up to date information at the time. Even the coin dev thought so before it was thoroughly researched.

My only reason in debating this was to prevent the circulation of ulterior motive rumors once it was disproved. I also do not think for a second that any Bitcoin Staff fears this catching on in any way and competing with Bitcoin SHA even on a 1/100,000 scale.

Now that all being said, I think "The Ban", subsequent stickied thread and the deleting of all post related to it has done factorial more to keep it alive than anything the coin or the coin dev has done to date.

If I were Staff on this forum, I would go with a disclaimer placed by a mod on every thread Bitcoin Scrypt related and let this thing die like the other 150 scrypt clones launched in the past few months. If you ban it, it will become stronger as it will be the small guy verses the giant and in ways become what Bitcoin SHA256 was created to be in the first place, the stand against central control.


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Proof that this thread has done more to promote Bitcoin Scrypt than the original [ANN] Thread.

-This thread 4734 views with 120 replies

-Original [ANN] Thread 641 views with 7 replies
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291021.0
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October 15, 2013, 03:23:51 PM
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Ahh yes and the debate continues...are they on any exchange apart from the google doc one? :0)
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October 15, 2013, 03:45:31 PM
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I don't believe it matters that much as far as publicity. We didn't have any intention in trying to make the coin stronger or weaker with this thread. If people want to support it, I don't really mind, nor do I especially care if it dies. Really, the only thing that decides if it lives or dies is the dev/dev team, how useful the coin is, and how many people think its worthwhile to use it. There is no, "This coin is being censored! Fight back against censorship!" mentality, because its not like its banned from existing, we just didn't want it harming/confusing this specific forum's members. None of the staff really feels one way or the other about Scrypt Bitcoin in itself. What we do care about is people losing their coins, and secondly, not to sound lazy or anything like that, but realistically, how much trouble the coin is going to cause for the Bitcointalk members and by proxy, moderation staff. If people are getting scammed left and right, we are going to hear about it. If the coin is interfering at all with your BTC wallet, the hardware section is going to hear it, and so on and so on.

As I said before and I know you have read it, but just to reiterate, since the known info now is that the coin will most likely not delete your Bitcoin wallet, we are discussing the ban again. If it stays banned, I'll make sure to give you the up to date info as to why its banned. If its no longer banned, we would go back to the disclaimer system.

Just as you believed me about our original intentions, I hope that you believe that this wasn't a publicity stunt. Of all of the coins that are out there, if I was an unfair and quickly fired mod, first, I wouldn't have consulted with the rest of the staff first. I also probably would have propped up another coin, especially one that I was holding. As it sits, the only coins that I'm holding are Bitcoin, Litecoin, and Craftcoins. Bitcoins because thats what I got into first, Litecoin because that was the first alt coin I supported throughly (besides Solidcoins), even before I came a mod here, and Craftcoin because Blindfolded is a buddy of mine, and I played the original Litecoin minecraft server before it was converted to a Craftcoin server. I don't hold any Scrypt Bitcoins, I don't know if any staff members do, and the only people involved that I know about are Fablio and one other person who's name alludes me. I and the staff team have nothing against the Scrypt Bitcoin's users, or dev, and to my knowledge nothing to gain from banning or advertising Scrypt Bitcoin, so there aren't any secret scandalous reasons for the ban just exactly what we had previously discussed is what I posted for reasons for the ban. And as I said, I'll post update reasons for the ban or reasons for a disclaimer once we have come to a new agreement.

And just to give the real stats, I haven't had to delete any Scrypt Bitcoin2 threads/posts yet. I asked Fablio to lock his Scrypt Bitcoin giveaway thread, and one other person to lock their announcement thread, but I have never had to actually delete anything thusfar.

I'm not sure how much of a debate this is, I do value everyone's opinions, but ultimately its going to be the staff/admins who decide. If any good points are raised, I'd be sure to add those to the discussion, but leaving it up to the Alt Coin majority, to decide on something that has the potential to effect the entire forum, whether positively or negatively, is something I feel would be best decided between the 30+ Staff members, who have no biass in the matter other than how it will effect the boards they moderate.

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October 15, 2013, 05:59:20 PM
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If brand confusion or personal dislike is taken into consideration, it will be banned.

If the decision is truly based on whether or not BTC2 will harm BTC wallets, then it will be allowed.


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October 17, 2013, 03:30:08 PM
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Any updates?


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October 17, 2013, 04:08:26 PM
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Can someone link me to any information about what Scrypt Bitcoin is?

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October 17, 2013, 07:25:38 PM
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Can someone link me to any information about what Scrypt Bitcoin is?


https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1169-bitcoin-scrypt-btc-information/


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i wonder hmmm, this could get some more eyes?  Cool

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October 25, 2013, 09:11:10 PM
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Any update?

The original reason for the ban was due to it damaging the wallet, this has been debunked entirely.


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October 25, 2013, 09:18:58 PM
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Any update?

The original reason for the ban was due to it damaging the wallet, this has been debunked entirely.

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There really hasn't been much feedback on the subject. The hack and all of the stuff having to do with that has really taken the attention of the staff. I suppose that since no one feels strongly enough about it now to voice their opinions, Scrypt Bitcoin threads will be allowed, but cautiously. I ask that people please use disclaimers, or making it incredibly obvious whether they are talking about Scrypt Bitcoin or Sha Bitcoin.

With that in mind, its still thin ice so to speak. There will be a very very strong lookout for deceptive practices which obviously would get the thread removed. Again, this is kind of a gray area. Since no one has had much opinion on the matter as of now, I'm going to assume it will be allowed. However, should Theymos or John K individually, or the rest of the staff as a whole decide against allowing Scrypt Bitcoin, it will go back that way. So if you use and support Scrypt Bitcoins, please don't do anything that will grab the staff's attention and give us reason to disallow the coin.

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October 25, 2013, 09:34:37 PM
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There really hasn't been much feedback on the subject. The hack and all of the stuff having to do with that has really taken the attention of the staff. I suppose that since no one feels strongly enough about it now to voice their opinions, Scrypt Bitcoin threads will be allowed, but cautiously. I ask that people please use disclaimers, or making it incredibly obvious whether they are talking about Scrypt Bitcoin or Sha Bitcoin.

With that in mind, its still thin ice so to speak. There will be a very very strong lookout for deceptive practices which obviously would get the thread removed. Again, this is kind of a gray area. Since no one has had much opinion on the matter as of now, I'm going to assume it will be allowed. However, should Theymos or John K individually, or the rest of the staff as a whole decide against allowing Scrypt Bitcoin, it will go back that way. So if you use and support Scrypt Bitcoins, please don't do anything that will grab the staff's attention and give us reason to disallow the coin.

I'm actually pretty stunned at this decision.

You should create a bold disclaimer which must be posted at the top of every Bitcoin2 related thread and sticky the instructions. Any thread not following those directions should be deleted without warning.



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There really hasn't been much feedback on the subject. The hack and all of the stuff having to do with that has really taken the attention of the staff. I suppose that since no one feels strongly enough about it now to voice their opinions, Scrypt Bitcoin threads will be allowed, but cautiously. I ask that people please use disclaimers, or making it incredibly obvious whether they are talking about Scrypt Bitcoin or Sha Bitcoin.

With that in mind, its still thin ice so to speak. There will be a very very strong lookout for deceptive practices which obviously would get the thread removed. Again, this is kind of a gray area. Since no one has had much opinion on the matter as of now, I'm going to assume it will be allowed. However, should Theymos or John K individually, or the rest of the staff as a whole decide against allowing Scrypt Bitcoin, it will go back that way. So if you use and support Scrypt Bitcoins, please don't do anything that will grab the staff's attention and give us reason to disallow the coin.

I'm actually pretty stunned at this decision.

You should create a bold disclaimer which must be posted at the top of every Bitcoin2 related thread and sticky the instructions. Any thread not following those directions should be deleted without warning.



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Congrats BCX, you managed to get it unbanned.  Tongue

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October 25, 2013, 10:13:52 PM
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That's pretty confusing, so we have a coin named Bitcoin...but is not Bitcoin. Oh wait, it is Bitcoin 2.

Well, I have an idea then, lets create another Viagra like pill and boost the sales by calling it Aspirin 2.
That should clear up the confusion.
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That pretty confusing, so we have a coin named Bitcoin...but is not Bitcoin. Oh wait, it is Bitcoin 2.

Well, I have an idea then, lets create another Viagra like pill and boost the sales by calling it Aspirin 2.
That should clear up the confusion.


It's a coin called Bitcoin Scrypt, not Bitcoin.

Nice try, but fail on the grandstanding.


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Hm, I just thought I saw it referred to as BTC2 (and even Bitcoin2 few times)...but I it see now, it is not BITCOIN 2, is BITCOIN scrypt and that is not confusing at all.
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Did I nail it?

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October 27, 2013, 10:01:53 AM
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So there has been a lot of uproar about the new Scrypt "Bitcoin"
Interesting. I am still using the legacy Bitcoin. Where can I download the new Bitcoin?
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October 27, 2013, 10:02:42 AM
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So there has been a lot of uproar about the new Scrypt "Bitcoin"
Interesting. I am still using the legacy Bitcoin. Where can I download the new Bitcoin?

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Wait longer,it will be more premained.I getting blocks everyday.V 1.2 released couple days ago.Block explorer http://blocks.btc2.pw/ ,pool http://btc2.cryptominer.net/index.php ,and I like idea the most:

"When Bitcoin was first created it was mined using just a cpu and only used as a mess about hacking currency but also just to see if we could do it in the first place.
Then can the greed came in, which moved it onto GPU's which is fair enough, just like the internet, it spread and became more or less decentralised and pretty much everyone in this gaming world has a GPU.
Now, with the birth of the ASIC, Bitcoin SHA is not decentralised even for a second and if you believe that, then maybe you shouldn't mine it or think long and hard about it.
ASIC's put the power into the hands of governments, the rich and the powerful (Manufactures).The governments know what they are doing with Bitcoin, to suck you in and then slowly take control.
This is why I created Bitcoin Scrypt, a new Bitcoin currency that I will fully support and is free of ASIC control and once again as Bitcoin should be.
I want this to be the rebirth of Bitcoin once again BACK into the hands of the people."
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