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February 12, 2018, 02:38:13 PM
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Presale is to expensive - 1BTC per unknown MN developed from Mutual coin where main developer abandon all with his small greed and left community, than few super users take over and now they want to make worth their staking of old MUT by setting the price initial high which is normal, but why would anyone normal want to buy unlucky takeover coin in swap period for 1BTC and there is still billion or more waiting on CM exchange when they come back promising to drop price further.
Cryptopia wil never list coin like this, not even for 15-20 btc they ask now - they denied more serious coins in past 3 months and don't want more upcoming drama for sure.

I understand that initial Mutual holders wanna cash out and that is normal - but i suggest to all new users to pass it for now and see realistic price when and if they list on small exchanges.

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February 12, 2018, 02:38:58 PM
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Pools?? Wallet??
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February 12, 2018, 02:53:32 PM
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Pow/Pos?
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ARION (ARION)
Algo: X11 (Dash)
Maturation 8 hours
Min stake age - 8 hours
Max stake age - 48 hours
Max supply - 21 million

Dark Send technology

APR 365% - Staking rate per year
1% Per Day
Pow/POS 70% Masternodes 29.5%
Budget /dev fee/ marketing and listings 0.5%
with Superstaking blocks
Premine 3million
(2.2mil for swap & 800K for pre-sales and bounty & airdrop)
Swap in progress swop 1 ARION :10000MUT
Max supply 21 million
Rate of Masternode 5000 Arion = 50 mil MUT

POW retargeting algorithm
Block time – 2mins (120sec)
Block reward – 10 per block
Superblocks – 25 per block

1 - 3,000,000 Premine (MUT swap + exchange listing)
2 / 10,000 - 2 ARO (fail launch)
99,998 / 100,000 - 500 ARO
499,998 / 500,000 - 500 ARO
999,998 / 1,000,000 - 500 ARO
1,999,998 / 2,000,000 - 500 ARO

Remaining blocks are rewarded 10 ARO.
After block 10k, Superblocks of 25 ARO are rewarded on blocks ending in 5, 6 and 7

Pre-sale of Arion – to be paid in BTC for the Cryptopia and other listings
1000 packages of 500 Arion at 0.1BTC
A BOT MANAGED PRESALE System will release packages to the 1st 1000 Addresses.
Pre-sale starts 12 February 2018 17:00 CET












SOCIAL MEDIA

MUTUAL REVIVAL DISCORD: https://discord.gg/dM33yQ4


WHAT IS ARION COIN?
Arion Coin is a community created Coin. Our current members are from the original community of Mutual Coin. At the beginning of January, after having done very well on www.coinsmarkets.com, Mutual Coin's Developer and Main Staking Pool Manager left the community without a trace. The community was left in chaos. To make matters worse the only exchange it was listed on crashed and went offline. This left a massive amount of Mutual Coins on the exchange, which to date, are un-accessible and unable to trade.

Out of this Chaos, the ARION Project was born. The community joined forces to start working together and collaborating with combined skills with an intent to re-establish the original theme of a community-based investment project.
Voting was started on every aspect from Logo to Coin specs on
 “what would you want from a great coin?”


 With the help of a Well-known and Trusted Team, Arion was developed to be a High-End, High-Value coin with a sustainable APR and long-term investment in mind.
In a fast-moving environment that lends itself to Fast High and Fast Low,
the coin is designed to have a little more confirmations on Exchanges to prevent the rush to sell and dump as is the fashion nowadays.
It is a hybrid coin meaning it allows for POS, POW and Masternodes providing everyone with their share of the rewards in the way they best suited to do so.
All characteristics of a sturdy project that is here to stay.



Frequently Asked Questions:

Q: What MUT can I Swap for Arion
A: You can only Swap the MUT you owned at the 120K Block
To see that Balance please look in the Mutual Channel under "What - block - are - we - on" to see the old explorer - https://discord.gg/2b4WayT
The swap sheets are also there. ONLY DEAL WITH THE SWAP HELPERS IN GREEN ON THE DISCORD

Q: What happens to my remaining MUT?
A: The rest of the MUT you own will be swapped to MUTX a snapshot will be taken once Arion is completed - All info on this swap will follow – keep your eyes peeled for announcements

Q: How much for a Masternode?
A: 50 Million MUT = 5000 Arion. At the time of Swap you can indicate if you want a Masternode. This is subject to a deadline for the swap at 28th February 2018. All other Masternodes will be purchased at the rate of what Arion is worth at the time of purchase on an exchange or at the pre-sale

Q: What happens if my coins are stuck at coinsmarkets?
A: All coins at coinsmarkets will be honoured when they come back and are not subject to the 28th February 2018 deadline. You can not Swap any until the website is operational


Q: Where can I get my MUT bounties?
A: Post your proof in the marketing channel of the Mutual Discord channel along with your address and payment will be made at 5000 MUT per post on different social media Platforms outside of discord - https://discord.gg/9EfRhsg

Q: When is the pre-sale and what will it cost? What is it being used for?
A: The pre-sale is on the 12th February 2018 @ 17:00 CET - the cost will be 0.1BTC for 500 Arion. We are using proceeds to secure listings on larger exchanges like Cryptopia, coinexchange, Binance, stock.exchange and Crypto bridge. As well as salaries will be paid to the 11 Members of the Team that have all contributed their services in making this project possible, future developments, helper salaries and marketing.

Q: Where is the wallet, pool and website?
A: The wallet and Pool are in test phase over this weekend and should be completed by the 12th of February 2018.


Who makes up the Team?

Community Leaders and Project Coordinators - @Nikita#8669 & @JimmySoap#5518
Lead Developer - Konez2k - konez2k#6060
Bot Developer and Presale Administrator - Lionz - Lionz#8010
Website Developer - ThePopeZA#7857
Mobile Application Developer - Lucius#7179
Mining Pool Administrator -  G3ARH3AD#4592
Masternode Support and Administrator - thePridge#5324
Masternode Support community support and tutorials - XeZZ#4714
Marketing Guru's - lexip#8236, Mike - Crypto Doji#9993, MOCHO 17#0581
Community Support - Crypto Crow#1799
Special mention:
@CryptoGoals#7575 – Creator of Arion Logo
@jmccalip#7429 – Creator of the name Arion
@33lover33#0820 – Youtube support


For those that didn't come to discord I will post it here for you instead to see:

For those that have gotten to know me and know me from other projects and for those that know me from the original community this message is not aimed at you
But lets clear up a couple of things

THIS COMMUNITY trusts me - not only because we have walked a road together but because I am open and transparent. I'm honest in my dealings and incredibly patient
There have been a number of very sarcastic comments about the budget for this project and message sent to me lambasting me for making money off of a community
Firstly it is well within my rights to raise money in any way I see fit to get the job done and most of you have never donated when I asked or even bothered to spread the word even when I paid or offered to pay you to do so
So I will again be as transparent as possible and I will pin this message so all can see
As far as the team of 11 goes they are a team of technical specialists
kone - Developer
lionz - Bot developer
Lucious - Cellphone application developer
The Pope - Website developer
The Pridge - Masternode developer and Manager
Chris- - Master calculator of future and long-term pos statistic on coins
Xezz - Strong community lead Bounty manager and Masternode tutorials
and Jimmy and I These are all salaried members we had to pay them. The salaries here currently total 10 BTC and that doesn't include Jimmy and me
Marketing Crew
Mocha, Crypto Capone Mike 33 lover Vriz and Lexip
as well as three Designers - salaries here 6BTc so far
Exchange
Cryptopia Binance crypto bridge, stocks exchange, coins exchange Tradesatoshi and Bitfinex currently stand at 60 btc
and that just the beginning I haven't related to anything else like bounties helper salaries and Buying Arion for those that all lost their coins in the pool
or the fact that we may have to consider paying everyone out if CM never comes back or the fact that we honoring every person under 10k with 1 Arion
that leaves roughly 20/25 BTC and the project has just started

I haven't continued to have presale after presale to solicit more - I have one
EITHER BE INVOLVED - GET INVOLVED - OR BUY YOUR WAY INTO THIS PROJECT
but please read all information before you presume we just another money making racket
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February 12, 2018, 03:11:34 PM
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Pow/Pos?

Its a HYBRID pow/pos/mn X11
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February 12, 2018, 03:16:11 PM
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Presale is to expensive - 1BTC per unknown MN developed from Mutual coin where main developer abandon all with his small greed and left community, than few super users take over and now they want to make worth their staking of old MUT by setting the price initial high which is normal, but why would anyone normal want to buy unlucky takeover coin in swap period for 1BTC and there is still billion or more waiting on CM exchange when they come back promising to drop price further.
Cryptopia wil never list coin like this, not even for 15-20 btc they ask now - they denied more serious coins in past 3 months and don't want more upcoming drama for sure.

I understand that initial Mutual holders wanna cash out and that is normal - but i suggest to all new users to pass it for now and see realistic price when and if they list on small exchanges.


There is a lot more to the new coin than just wanting to cash out - its not designed that way it has a ten year plan with a 21million Cap as well as Cellphone application coming out - We didnt just want to replace a coin we made what we thought would be the best attributes of a coin - so its nothing like Mutual and even if coinsmarkets comes back the Dumping of old Mutual coins will have no effect on Arion since it is a completely different coin. Come and give some constructive criticism in the discord if you want to contribute to the project but please read up about it first and the tech behind it - you may be pleasantly surprised
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February 12, 2018, 04:01:04 PM
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I do not see anything special except cashout for old mut holders and i repeat i am ok with that that is normal/

Site is not up, whitepaper is not existing, purpose of coin is not existing to last 2 months not 10 years, and if you hang just on fact that somebody will develop mobile app - that is not a purpose because there are lots of apps already there doing nothing.

The roots and base from this coin is not healty and story must be much much much serious to attract new users and not just old holders to cash out.
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February 12, 2018, 04:08:11 PM
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What happens if CM comes back (doubtful) and all these people swap and dump the price?

Why not set a swap deadline or something?

It sucks they have coins stuck on the exchange, but new investors should not have to run the risk of their coins dropping severely in value because people don't know how to follow basic crypto security standards and not leave large sums of coins on a ghetto exchange that looked like it could collapse into the sunset at any time . . which it did.

I had a long convo on the Discord with someone who held similar views.

I like some of the team. I'm a fan of Mocho. But imo price is too much for the risk of a bunch of MUT whales to swap and/or CM coming back and a bunch of people swapping and dumping.

It's within the realm of possibility.

I get wanting to preserve MUT holders, but don't ostracize the new money coming in, not when you are asking for 1 btc per MN.

Just some thoughts. I'lll be watching this project. And might pick some up after it gets dumped . . no offense.  Grin

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February 12, 2018, 04:54:15 PM
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After a community vote whether to continue with the presale before the official wallet release, the decision was made to delay the presale till the wallet is 100% ready and officially released.

With the delay it would give everyone the time and security to obtain their wallets before sending any BTC payments. In addition to this, capturing ARION addresses in the presale makes the whole process much smoother and will enable us to get your coins to you as soon as possible.

Thank you for your participation and patience in this.

The presale will therefore be moved to Thursday 15 Feb 2018 at 17:00 CET

Make sure you get your wallet downloaded as soon at is released and that you have your address ready for the presale.

Apologies again for this delay and we welcome your questions in #general in the ARION Discord server.
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February 13, 2018, 02:45:17 AM
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Can't find the whitepaper. There is also none in the mini roadmap. What is the future of this coin? What will it be its main focus? Features?
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February 13, 2018, 03:29:16 AM
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So is no one from the team going to comment on both of my posts above?

For the sake of transparancy, these are questions that need to be answered.

There are many noobs in this space who do not understand how swaps, pre-sales, pre-mines, lack of github, explorer, an exchange most likely exit scamming while holding a shit load of MUT, and all the implications that ensue from this post and the two I wrote above it . .

What is to prevent Coinsmarkets workers from swapping to ARION themselves?  MUT is indeed worthless. It would make sense that whoever is in control of all those MUT coins on Coinsmarkets would want to swap . . wouldn't you want to if you had all those coins?

I am not trying to be an ass. But this is serious when there is a lot of BTC at stake that the team will receive, and of course they get to swap all their MUT tokens too  Grin

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February 13, 2018, 09:46:02 AM
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Great project! Cant wait for presale! Remember MutualCoin was staked at Stakeunited- therefor it will most probably also be a staking pool for this Coin- check it out before they lock up new registrations due to massive new users: Easy staking pool with nice interface for various POS-Coins and Masternodes with german developers: http://goo.gl/eoXoQB  https://stakeunited.com/hammerhart91
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February 13, 2018, 12:14:12 PM
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any whitepaper? what is the purpose of the coin?

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February 13, 2018, 12:20:08 PM
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hy dev, is there bounty program in pre sale dev? if yes, how to register?
and how much your targets to achieve in this pre sale..

Hi there

There isn't a bounty like that at the moment - there is an invite link competition as per above images

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February 13, 2018, 12:25:36 PM
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any whitepaper? what is the purpose of the coin?

The whitepaper is nearly done - check the roadmap
The theme and purpose of this coin is a long-term investment. it has a 10-year plan and 21 million cap
Dark send technology as per community request.
Your welcome to come and see how we got to the decisions around what we wanted in this coin in the discord the links are above
it was a community decision that was voted on
We also included everyone and made a hybrid coin where mining isn't stopped after a short-term and give D3 miners an opportunity to mine something long term and not just short term as is the case in a lot of coins at the moment

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February 13, 2018, 12:34:06 PM
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I do not see anything special except cashout for old mut holders and i repeat i am ok with that that is normal/

Site is not up, whitepaper is not existing, purpose of coin is not existing to last 2 months not 10 years, and if you hang just on fact that somebody will develop mobile app - that is not a purpose because there are lots of apps already there doing nothing.

The roots and base from this coin is not healty and story must be much much much serious to attract new users and not just old holders to cash out.

Hi there
Thank you for your response - concerns are always good to voice
The history of how we decided the specs of this coin are in the discord - where it was voted on what people wanted from this coin.
The wallet and site, as well as github, will be available in the next 24/48 hours - we delayed because we were still testing. The idea of a hybrid coin has its own set of challenges because we launching them all together
normally you would have forks and wallet changes to implement all these things, but we wanting to do it from the start - so a couple of hiccups were found that are being sorted out to make sure that POS POW and MN all work together smoothly. We also setting up our own mining pool to make sure all functions correctly and not just rushing to get out there and having to apologize later. Please feel free to keep watching and commenting on this progress

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February 13, 2018, 12:47:10 PM
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February 13, 2018, 12:53:36 PM
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I posted on Discord as well:

But these are good questions and I am legit interested in getting a MN.

1 MN = 1 btc
I typically set up MN's by using Ubuntu . . .  is there no Arion Coin Github yet?

Is there a block explorer available?

I know its a brand new project.  But I would like to set it up immediately after buying it. And I would also like to see transactions, addresses, etc on an explorer.

What happens to the unswapped 2.2 million coins?  or the coins that are not sold in the presale/bounty/airdrop?

Sorry for all the questions, but these will be all of the ones that investors will want to know the answers too.

Maybe before doing a pre-sale, have all the typical things in place that most other coins have?

Just a suggestion . . . . .

Hi there
The wallet, mining, github and masternode set up all work together as I'm sure you know. I cant release one without all three functioning correctly. As stated before we have some hiccups and delayed the wallet. I'm not in the habit of giving a product that doesn't work because I'm worried about how it will be seen. I'm very fortunate to have had no bad responses in our community for this delay and even to delay was voted on.
I have also posted the budget and the discussion around the budget and what will happen to coins - we have an extended community in Pakistan that we support out of all proceeds you welcome to come and look at some of the pictures of the families we support with food and medical supplies. Nowhere will you see the traditional "purpose" as is the custom these days - so no it won't cure cancer Wink but we have a community that decided on what they wanted and our team provided that. My next coin will have a better purpose. Also the decision about what a good investment is or what a good coin is or even what a good project is - is a personal one for every individual. The transition from a simple high staking coin to a coin like Arion was a vast improvement and is in line with the theme (mini purpose) of what the Mutual coin was meant to represent which is a community based investment - we achieved that. Ultimately like expressed in other posts the market will decide whether the coin is worth it.

Mike - Crypto Doji - Last Friday at 3:30 PM
@iamishan0  - Both @Lionz , Myself and others work on many projects.  We like to promote vetted coins in the hope that you guys can comfortably invest without worry the project is some kind of Scam.
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Our ultimate goal is to have a credible reputation that ensures confidence for our followers

A comment like that in our discord encourages me that people see what we were trying to achieve

I again invite you to come and chat to us in the discord and have a look around - we may not be traditional but we certainly passionate about crypto and making replacements that are more in line with crypto being  a lifestyle as opposed to a get rich quick scheme - hope to see you soon

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February 13, 2018, 02:22:23 PM
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i hope solo mine before have pool Smiley
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will the wallet be released before the presale?

Yes, dev has said that wallet will be released BEFORE the presale
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