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March 13, 2018, 03:00:04 PM
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I am very concerned about the price of this video card. $600~ $800 is the price I can accept. I must buy some.

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March 13, 2018, 03:05:21 PM
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My biggest question is going to be supply of these cards and what about the new architecture coming out in June-July?
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March 13, 2018, 03:16:00 PM
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.Don't worry, mining is all about making money, and some people will have some free electricity.

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March 13, 2018, 09:16:45 PM
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I am very concerned about the price of this video card. $600~ $800 is the price I can accept. I must buy some.

They are available but not in that price range. P102-100 with fan coolers is 840 each before shipping. P104-100 is $600 right now before shipping.
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March 13, 2018, 10:03:11 PM
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My question is where can we get smaller amounts for P102 or p104? Only ones I’ve seen for sale are on eBay for $1k+ for p104...
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March 13, 2018, 10:12:38 PM
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Just got word from my source in Zotac

Nvidia P102-100 GPU's coming out with 5GB GDDR5X clocked at 10GHz and priced at $600 officially (though we know its not going to be available for anything close to that price)
Since this is GP102, expect it to be great at Zcash, Neoscrypt etc but suck at ethereum (with that GDDR5X)

https://i.imgur.com/2ESB8ZH.jpg

What do you guys think?

250W power consumption - is not it to much ? For current crypto and electricity prices it seems to  be.
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March 13, 2018, 10:14:43 PM
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.Don't worry, mining is all about making money, and some people will have some free electricity.

But also they should have free $600-1000 too Smiley
How many days will be ROI? 500? 600?
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March 14, 2018, 02:07:29 AM
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I am very concerned about the price of this video card. $600~ $800 is the price I can accept. I must buy some.

They are available but not in that price range. P102-100 with fan coolers is 840 each before shipping. P104-100 is $600 right now before shipping.

I would say more like high $6xx. Most places I see are quoting $69x to $7xx

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March 14, 2018, 02:45:38 AM
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Let me clear up some shit.

1, This is a memory tuned card (ethash neoscrypt etc).
2, It has a GP102-100 gpu but limited a little lower than on 1080TI
3, It has the full ram, but for max eth speed the bios shuts off some of the chips untill some day its needed and a new bios will be released that you can flash onto the card. Yeah you can flash a nvidia pascal card if you have a signed bios Cheesy
4, It has resale value still, gpu farms, transcoding farms etc etc.
5, Its pretty much a 1080TI with a bios mod to tune the ram timings for max eth speed.

EDIT:
Resale value is also super over rated man, you think your cards is gona be worth anything on the used market if its flodded by miners trying to sell their cards, also big farms.
The cards for sale now at like 400+ usd, used to cost 200 usd before march last year, so their resale value would be like 100usd at best on a total market crash, on a flodded market who knows, but my guess is under $50 Smiley
That being said this card is not for the household miners, this is aimed at farms.
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March 14, 2018, 03:09:21 AM
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Hopefully end April the real new Nvidia Voltan Gpu s for gamers maybe come out or the GTX Versions maybe ! and catch one of them !

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March 14, 2018, 04:54:26 AM
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Let me clear up some shit.

1, This is a memory tuned card (ethash neoscrypt etc).
2, It has a GP102-100 gpu but limited a little lower than on 1080TI
3, It has the full ram, but for max eth speed the bios shuts off some of the chips untill some day its needed and a new bios will be released that you can flash onto the card. Yeah you can flash a nvidia pascal card if you have a signed bios Cheesy
4, It has resale value still, gpu farms, transcoding farms etc etc.
5, Its pretty much a 1080TI with a bios mod to tune the ram timings for max eth speed.

EDIT:
Resale value is also super over rated man, you think your cards is gona be worth anything on the used market if its flodded by miners trying to sell their cards, also big farms.
The cards for sale now at like 400+ usd, used to cost 200 usd before march last year, so their resale value would be like 100usd at best on a total market crash, on a flodded market who knows, but my guess is under $50 Smiley
That being said this card is not for the household miners, this is aimed at farms.

Yep, price for that card now seems to be to high. It's not december of 2017, time of hype. It's time of realization.
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March 15, 2018, 05:04:03 AM
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Let me clear up some shit.

1, This is a memory tuned card (ethash neoscrypt etc).
2, It has a GP102-100 gpu but limited a little lower than on 1080TI
3, It has the full ram, but for max eth speed the bios shuts off some of the chips untill some day its needed and a new bios will be released that you can flash onto the card. Yeah you can flash a nvidia pascal card if you have a signed bios Cheesy
4, It has resale value still, gpu farms, transcoding farms etc etc.
5, Its pretty much a 1080TI with a bios mod to tune the ram timings for max eth speed.

EDIT:
Resale value is also super over rated man, you think your cards is gona be worth anything on the used market if its flodded by miners trying to sell their cards, also big farms.
The cards for sale now at like 400+ usd, used to cost 200 usd before march last year, so their resale value would be like 100usd at best on a total market crash, on a flodded market who knows, but my guess is under $50 Smiley
That being said this card is not for the household miners, this is aimed at farms.

Please find me a 1080Ti that can hash ETH at 50+ MH/s.  Huh
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March 15, 2018, 05:20:19 AM
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Let me clear up some shit.

1, This is a memory tuned card (ethash neoscrypt etc).
2, It has a GP102-100 gpu but limited a little lower than on 1080TI
3, It has the full ram, but for max eth speed the bios shuts off some of the chips untill some day its needed and a new bios will be released that you can flash onto the card. Yeah you can flash a nvidia pascal card if you have a signed bios Cheesy
4, It has resale value still, gpu farms, transcoding farms etc etc.
5, Its pretty much a 1080TI with a bios mod to tune the ram timings for max eth speed.

EDIT:
Resale value is also super over rated man, you think your cards is gona be worth anything on the used market if its flodded by miners trying to sell their cards, also big farms.
The cards for sale now at like 400+ usd, used to cost 200 usd before march last year, so their resale value would be like 100usd at best on a total market crash, on a flodded market who knows, but my guess is under $50 Smiley
That being said this card is not for the household miners, this is aimed at farms.

Please find me a 1080Ti that can hash ETH at 50+ MH/s.  Huh

What makes you say that this card will  hash ETH at 50MH/s ? Smiley
And if it did (but it will not) you will get ROI at 16 monthes.
If not and you will get hash near the same  that 1080 has and that is more likely - you will get ROI near 30 monthes
You kidding me Smiley
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March 15, 2018, 05:30:48 AM
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ohh its true, GPU is now dot dificit and mining not popular how on january.
Manufacturers making special offers.
How you think can gamesr solder hdmi port to this card and use it for games ?

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March 15, 2018, 06:42:18 AM
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Why are so many people talking about ethereum hashrate on nvidia hardware? Have you guys really not got the memo about this?

For the 1060, ETH has been a better option than ZEC most of the time if not always 'till the DAG file gets too big for the 3GB version.
Right now, the 1070 is a tossup mining ZEC vs ETH if you run it at efficient power settings (110 watts or less ballpark), as it loses NO hashrate on ETH in that ballpark - and recent price moves on ZEC vs ETH have given ETH a definite though small lead.

1080, 1080ti, forget ETH - it earns less.
1050 ti is better off on ETH, 1050 better off on ZEC, but both are low efficiency abet the 1050 is still "non-gouge priced", does OK on hash/$ as a result, and both are widely available.


This comment caught my interest. I've been looking everywhere in my area for 1080ti but stocks are out, so are 1080, 1070 and 1070ti. There are a few 1060s around but there are lots of 1050s. So if you intend to mine eth/etc, you mean 1050 will efficiently mine these better than the higher series? Because if that is the case, would it be a good recommendation to stack up on 1050ti for eth/etc?
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Why are so many people talking about ethereum hashrate on nvidia hardware? Have you guys really not got the memo about this?

For the 1060, ETH has been a better option than ZEC most of the time if not always 'till the DAG file gets too big for the 3GB version.
Right now, the 1070 is a tossup mining ZEC vs ETH if you run it at efficient power settings (110 watts or less ballpark), as it loses NO hashrate on ETH in that ballpark - and recent price moves on ZEC vs ETH have given ETH a definite though small lead.

1080, 1080ti, forget ETH - it earns less.
1050 ti is better off on ETH, 1050 better off on ZEC, but both are low efficiency abet the 1050 is still "non-gouge priced", does OK on hash/$ as a result, and both are widely available.


This comment caught my interest. I've been looking everywhere in my area for 1080ti but stocks are out, so are 1080, 1070 and 1070ti. There are a few 1060s around but there are lots of 1050s. So if you intend to mine eth/etc, you mean 1050 will efficiently mine these better than the higher series? Because if that is the case, would it be a good recommendation to stack up on 1050ti for eth/etc?

No, their efficiency is in the mid-2 range on ZEC while 1070 and up are all capable of 4.0 or better efficiency at their "most efficient" settings on sols/watt.
The 1050 ti is ballpark a 13 Mhash card on ETH - but you CAN'T turn it down to less than 53 watts (52.5 to be picky) while a 1070 will achieve 30 Mhash ballpark (usually 31.something on the cards I've worked with) at 100-108 watts, so ALSO less efficient.

They ARE fairly close, if you go with some of the lower PRICE cards, on a hash/$ basis - but long term they're going to be non-profitable a lot sooner than the "bigger" cards.
Fairly good chance you'll have paid them off, or at least made enough that when you sell them you'll be ahead - IF coin pricing doesn't keep dropping AND you have low-cost electric.

If you're going to stock up on low-end cards for ETH, do 1050 ti cards - I'm not sure if there ARE any 1050 cards that have 4GB and CAN mine ETH, all the ones I'm aware of are 2GB and can't mine ETH at all (and I'm pretty sure can't mine ETC any more too).

BTW - the last week has seen the GTX 1070 turn into "more profitable on ETH at low-power settings than ANY settings on ZEC" even for free electric, unless you have a miraculous (and bloody RARE) 1070 that can manage more than 500 sol/s at high-power settings.
I'm also seeing some price pressure on the GTX 1050 and a small climb on the already slightly inflated 1050 ti pricing, on top of the major gouge pricing on the bigger cards that started right after Xmas....




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April 07, 2018, 10:57:28 AM
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Does anyone know if a 1080ti can be flashed to seem a 102p-100 so i can complete my asus 19 slots motherboard
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April 08, 2018, 04:18:34 AM
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Does anyone know if a 1080ti can be flashed to seem a 102p-100 so i can complete my asus 19 slots motherboard

Sure but you'd have to solder on more VRAM first  Roll Eyes  Tongue
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April 08, 2018, 07:13:40 AM
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Seems as if this may have the potential to mitigate the strain between the mining and gaming communities.
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April 08, 2018, 07:19:28 PM
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Seems as if this may have the potential to mitigate the strain between the mining and gaming communities.

Not as long as Nvidia keeps spouting those lies they like trying to blame miners for their shortage when the REAL issue was decisions on the part of Nvidia ITSELF (that were bad in 20/20 hindsight but looked reasonable ahead of time).

AMD has a fair case for blaming miners - they're a LOT more impacted - but oddly enough they prefer to blame "ram shortages" for not being able to ramp up to meet demand.


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