ETH GPUs miners beware!

[gotminer]

Thats the worst thing to happen to ETH minning...

Just bad news this 2018....

What will you mine?

You're a miner and the only thing you mine or even know about mining is one coin? Lol.

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[edwardceng]

Thats the worst thing to happen to ETH minning...

Just bad news this 2018....

What will you mine?

the Altcoins not just ETH, many Altcoins can be mined. of course, must calculate before mining. how many rewards, frequency a block, Hashrate diff etc.

[BitindaHouse]

Are you kidding me)
this is still a long time to wait for such giants of the industry nvideo and amd will not stand aside, and if even so I can safely go to sell the kidney in order to buy an asic)

[Metroid]

Are you kidding me)
this is still a long time to wait for such giants of the industry nvideo and amd will not stand aside, and if even so I can safely go to sell the kidney in order to buy an asic)

The kidney only? You will have to sell all parts of your body to buy this hehe

[gotminer]

Are you kidding me)
this is still a long time to wait for such giants of the industry nvideo and amd will not stand aside, and if even so I can safely go to sell the kidney in order to buy an asic)

The kidney only? You will have to sell all parts of your body to buy this hehe

It really depends on the demand for the kidney.  If twenty people need it, he'll get more $ out of it than if only one person needed it.

[jstefanop]

Did some quick maths

ASSUMING that they use quad channel interface for each chip with the fastest ddr3 in existence and its 96GB not 72GB, that would make the total memory bandwidth of the rig 1TB/s which is 4 times faster than a RX580 or around 120MH/s. That would be the worst case scenario.

Thats incorrect, if they are using quad channel spread to 8 16bit 512MB DDR3 chips for each core thats ~14mh per core (assuming around a 1GHZ ram speed, some DDR3 can go up to 1600mhz. 14x 6 cores x 3 boards ~ 250 MH.

How did you calculate 14 MH/s per core? 14 MH/s would require roughly 140 GB/s bandwidth which seems unrealistic even for a quad channel DDR3. A quad channel 1866MHz DDR3 can reach 59.7 GB/s (source https://www.microway.com/knowledge-center-articles/performance-characteristics-of-common-transports-buses/). Therefore one core hashrate should be close to 6 MH/s. 6 MH/s * 6 * 3 = 108 MH/s.

933 mhz x 2 (DDR) x 4 (quad channel) x 128 bit wide bus (8 x16 bit DDR3 chips) / 8bits = 120 GB/s

Remember stock ram for motherboard is 64bit wide no reason why you can't go higher, if they are really using something between 72-96GB per board and I'm assuming article is wrong and its 72GB which would make sense for 8 x 512mb chips per core for 128bit wide bus.

[sunder54]

Maybe it's time for asic miner also created for ETH like Bitcoin. Is this due to the increasing difficulty of ETH? and on the other hand GPU prices are also higher?

[QuintLeo]

OH No, this is gonna be bad, what will happen to GPU miners it will go down to algo and the current of price? i've heard also 20 series nvia will released not compatible for the mining holy crap.

Lol on the 20 series. Nvidia answers to shareholders.  They talk like crypto wasn’t the bulk of sales but that’s bs.  They will work fine for crypto or watch their share price and sales tumble.  I honestly don’t believe this one bit.

BR

For Nvidia, crypto sales HAS in fact been a fairly small factor - particularly during 4Q 2017.
The only reason that crypto sales was a significant factor in 2Q was that AMD high-end Polaris cards gouge pricing got into 1070 or even low-end 1080 territory making the 1070 a viable option for cost-effective ETH mining.
The CURRENT Nvidia shortage appears to have been caused by Nvidia having TSMC switch production out of Pascal GPUs into Volta GPUs "around the end of the year" then getting hit by an unexpectedly VERY GOOD sales season especially on high-end gaming machines.
4Q 2017 is the FIRST TIME in several years that PC "number of units" sales INCREASED year-over-year, while all of the forcasts were for a DECREASE - and a lot of reports cited "high end systems" being a primary driver in that sales increase during the Christmas Sales Season.

Even RIGHT NOW, there are probably less than 1 million GPUs mining ZEC, which is BY FAR the biggest GPU count in Nvidia-friendly coins, while ETH which is mostly AMD territory is pushing well past the 7 million GPU range at this point.

[Chromexnet]

Did some quick maths

ASSUMING that they use quad channel interface for each chip with the fastest ddr3 in existence and its 96GB not 72GB, that would make the total memory bandwidth of the rig 1TB/s which is 4 times faster than a RX580 or around 120MH/s. That would be the worst case scenario.

Thats incorrect, if they are using quad channel spread to 8 16bit 512MB DDR3 chips for each core thats ~14mh per core (assuming around a 1GHZ ram speed, some DDR3 can go up to 1600mhz. 14x 6 cores x 3 boards ~ 250 MH.

How did you calculate 14 MH/s per core? 14 MH/s would require roughly 140 GB/s bandwidth which seems unrealistic even for a quad channel DDR3. A quad channel 1866MHz DDR3 can reach 59.7 GB/s (source https://www.microway.com/knowledge-center-articles/performance-characteristics-of-common-transports-buses/). Therefore one core hashrate should be close to 6 MH/s. 6 MH/s * 6 * 3 = 108 MH/s.

933 mhz x 2 (DDR) x 4 (quad channel) x 128 bit wide bus (8 x16 bit DDR3 chips) / 8bits = 120 GB/s

Remember stock ram for motherboard is 64bit wide no reason why you can't go higher, if they are really using something between 72-96GB per board and I'm assuming article is wrong and its 72GB which would make sense for 8 x 512mb chips per core for 128bit wide bus.

Sure, a 128 bit quad channel bus is effectively a 512 bit bus. AMD and Nvidia have used 512 bit buses in the past, however they both have moved away from those due to high cost and high power consumption. If Bitmain's ASIC really does have a separate 512 bit bus for each core (so 18x 512 bit bus in total), then 200+ MH/s is possible. However, in that case the retail cost and the power consumption will be pretty high. I'm sure they wouldn't release anything that's worse than a comparable GPU rig but most likely it's not going to drive GPU rigs out of the market either.

[xMines]

I found a good steemit article: https://steemit.com/technology/@cloh76/bitmain-to-release-ethereum-asic-miner-the-antminer-f3
Guys im really curious how this thing will come. If they deliver the anounced hashpower I'm all over it. If we check what happened in the past when ASICs hit the ASIC resistant coins, we saw a huge rising difficulty. But also rising prices. Eth is planning to go to PoS so then the miners have to jump on other smaller coins, which will be less efficient.

[RYXES]

Hoping for a fork. Otherwise we’re forked.

[Riptide_NVN]

This Metroid guy is quite the caricature.

[treanski]

This Metroid guy is quite the caricature.

he´s just a salty fuck who´s pissed because he is far to late for the party

[badfad]

Are you kidding me)
this is still a long time to wait for such giants of the industry nvideo and amd will not stand aside, and if even so I can safely go to sell the kidney in order to buy an asic)

The kidney only? You will have to sell all parts of your body to buy this hehe

It really depends on the demand for the kidney.  If twenty people need it, he'll get more $ out of it than if only one person needed it.

Also depends on how the kidney was used. If said kidney comes from a young male but has been exposed to massive arterial hypertension(and other things) caused by syntethic male hormone, that kidney is worth 1 doge. That kidney is now like an old mining card  

Serious question, how many of you would buy this supposed ethhash asic if it was only 1.5x-2x Mh/W than a gpu rig? I wouldn't, but I don't mine eth nowdays also.

[beheddard]

Say the hash is only 1.5-2x higher, how much more energy efficient does it have to be to be worth the extra trouble? Are there any numbers for that yet?

[badfad]

Nothing exact, or confirmed in Mh/W.  Just specultation and speculation around the speculation.
Business as usual

[RYXES]

Some say 200mh/s, some say 600mh/s at 1000W. I would be surprised if they released an ETH asic miner that is anything remotely competitive with a 6-8 GPU rig.

[gondel]

Guys,
Member it?
When we had primecoin and we mined tons of it we cpu?
Nice days

[CryptoDocker]

Well at least the Monero team have gone out and said they will make the coin Asic proof with subtle code changes

[kimtaek]

I would like to ask what are the legit sites that I could mine ETH? there are a lot of ETH mining sites and I guess most of them are scam....