Linux is such a horrible OS (for casual users)

[Mike Christ]

Linux is super easy if you don't need specific windows-only programs and you don't game much.

Most people just browse anyway. Linux is ideal for that.

Completely agree; I personally love linux as just a casual OS, but when I actually need to do work, it just doesn't work out.

[btcton]

Casual computer users should really be fine with Linux. It really isn't that hard, it is just a different concept. If you are into quite a bit of gaming and such, you're better off with Windows, though. Of course, Linux is my #1 for servers, but that's just me.

[r3wt]

Casual computer users should really be fine with Linux. It really isn't that hard, it is just a different concept. If you are into quite a bit of gaming and such, you're better off with Windows, though. Of course, Linux is my #1 for servers, but that's just me.

Sadly, most casual users can barely use Windows. Imagine trying to teach them how to open the terminal and sudo everytime they want to run an application.

[gurcani]

Sadly, most casual users can barely use Windows. Imagine trying to teach them how to open the terminal and sudo everytime they want to run an application.

so you sudo everytime you want to run an application?

[r3wt]

Sadly, most casual users can barely use Windows. Imagine trying to teach them how to open the terminal and sudo everytime they want to run an application.

so you sudo everytime you want to run an application?

you know what i meant. most "casual" users won't be satisfied with the prepackaged repos of any given linux distro. sooner or later they will try to install something, such as video card drivers that will be a real pain in the ass.

[Dabs]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_Core_Linux

5.0 [1] / September 14, 2013; 0 days ago

Woot! Zero Day!

What a cute distro.

[jarhed]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_Core_Linux

5.0 [1] / September 14, 2013; 0 days ago

Woot! Zero Day!

What a cute distro.

This thing runs entirely in RAM at 8-12MB.

Edit
I just loaded it on VMware, less than 10 seconds to load. Transparent terminal, Mac inspired desktop view. I am impressed.

[favdesu]

I'd still use linux if they'd better game support. it's sad, but I'm only with windows for the games, the only reason I moved back.

[r3wt]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_Core_Linux

5.0 [1] / September 14, 2013; 0 days ago

Woot! Zero Day!

What a cute distro.

This thing runs entirely in RAM at 8-12MB.

Edit
I just loaded it on VMware, less than 10 seconds to load. Transparent terminal, Mac inspired desktop view. I am impressed.

whoa that thing is sick for sure. i wonder if it supports normal distro packages like debian

[dragonkid]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_Core_Linux

5.0 [1] / September 14, 2013; 0 days ago

Woot! Zero Day!

What a cute distro.

This thing runs entirely in RAM at 8-12MB.

Edit
I just loaded it on VMware, less than 10 seconds to load. Transparent terminal, Mac inspired desktop view. I am impressed.

whoa that thing is sick for sure. i wonder if it supports normal distro packages like debian

They don't use .deb

They have their own package call .tcz

http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/wiki:install_apps#install_applications2

[Puppet]

You're right. measuring the the frames per second on a gpu is sufficient evidence of superior performance. also, its kind of telling how little Win 8 lags behind while being much more graphic intensive than either OS. Food for thought young padawan, food for thought.

You didnt qualify your request for a benchmark, I deliberately gave you a few very unlikely ones with gaming performance. Not many people associate linux with superior gaming performance, as its well known AMD and nVidia drivers are much more optimized for windows than linux, which makes sense given the fact that the vast majority of gamers and review benchmarks happen on windows.Of course no matter what benchmark I would have posted, you would have dismissed it as irrelevant or not representative, despite your "show me ANY" benchmark claim.

Here are some more for you to dismiss

File system performance:


KVM


I could give you webserving and DB benchmarks, compiling or whatever.
I could point you to the fact that for serious number crunching, windows is so much faster,  its used on all of 0.6% of the top 500 supercomputers.

But we all know you would dismiss them anyway.

Fact is, its not even those benchmarks that show how fast linux is, its just using it. You can deny it all you want, but anyone who actually uses both will know how one OS will inevitably slow down over time to the point where its no longer usable, constantly bogs you down with weird background processes  hammering your HDD, constantly stops you from doing work with a bazillion popups and updates that you cant postpone or abort. And the other OS just does it work in the background without ever getting in the way.

[r3wt]

You're right. measuring the the frames per second on a gpu is sufficient evidence of superior performance. also, its kind of telling how little Win 8 lags behind while being much more graphic intensive than either OS. Food for thought young padawan, food for thought.

You didnt qualify your request for a benchmark, I deliberately gave you a few very unlikely ones with gaming performance. Not many people associate linux with superior gaming performance, as its well known AMD and nVidia drivers are much more optimized for windows than linux, which makes sense given the fact that the vast majority of gamers and review benchmarks happen on windows.Of course no matter what benchmark I would have posted, you would have dismissed it as irrelevant or not representative, despite your "show me ANY" benchmark claim.

Here are some more for you to dismiss

File system performance:


KVM


I could give you webserving and DB benchmarks, compiling or whatever.
I could point you to the fact that for serious number crunching, windows is so much faster,  its used on all of 0.6% of the top 500 supercomputers.

But we all know you would dismiss them anyway.

Fact is, its not even those benchmarks that show how fast linux is, its just using it. You can deny it all you want, but anyone who actually uses both will know how one OS will inevitably slow down over time to the point where its no longer usable, constantly bogs you down with weird background processes  hammering your HDD, constantly stops you from doing work with a bazillion popups and updates that you cant postpone or abort. And the other OS just does it work in the background without ever getting in the way.

i use both.

[Rampion]

I tried linux several years back then I realized was unnecessary while surfing porn site.

Lol, best post of the day.

But now seriously: for a Bitcoin user, Windows is like playing Russian roulette. Too many attack vectors in there.

[Dabs]

@Rampion, if you use bitcoin on a semi-cold basis, even if the OS is Windows, the attack vectors suddenly disappear.

If you install bitcoin-qt on the same machine you use for every day work, that is connected to the internet, then everything you do is an attack vector.

On the other hand, I might as well use any other OS if all I intend to put on it is Bitcoin-Qt.

However, I am comfortable enough with just Windows, so that's what I use, then I disable all ports except TCP 8333 and disable all services and only connect that machine a couple of hours a day, and only behind a router that blocks everything else except bitcoin.

Works for me, and haven't had my less than 4 digit bitcoins stolen.

[Puppet]

Valve CEO: Why Linux is the future of gaming:
http://www.zdnet.com/valve-ceo-why-linux-is-the-future-of-gaming-7000020735/

[r3wt]

Valve CEO: Why Linux is the future of gaming:
http://www.zdnet.com/valve-ceo-why-linux-is-the-future-of-gaming-7000020735/

The next step, from where Newell sits, isn't so much bringing games to Linux, but rather working on the hardware side to create a living room gaming device based on Linux. This device, which we'll find out more about next week, is designed to span the gap from the desktop to the living room TV.

In Valve's future, players will run their games on Linux systems. They may not know they are running Linux — any more than nine out of 10 Android users know they're running Linux — but it will be Linux under the hood. These devices, whether PCs, tablets, or dedicated game consoles, will all play the same while running the same Steam-based games on top of Linux.

Please let this be true

[Nik1ab]

Nice thinking.

[virtualmaster]

Linux became very user friendly with the Gnome and KDE surface, comparable with Windows XP or Windows Vista.
Flexibility and speed for native applications is however higher. For server applications much higher.
There exists unpleasant graphical surfaces like Windows 8 and Ubuntu Unity for both systems but at least in Linux you can change the standard surface much easier.
Security is definitely much higher under Linux.
Windows still has the advantage that more games are available and may be some special applications also but older windows applications you can run under wine also.

[tkbx]

Your opinion is incorrect.

[Nik1ab]

Your opinion is incorrect.

Opinions can't be "incorrect".