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July 16, 2011, 05:09:07 PM
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Block 136583:

{
  "hash":"00000000000001d7635c5037bd97519b583cd995a56edc0018dfb9a39106f758",
  "ver":1,
  "prev_block":"000000000000003f767918da359ac0dd5728edc90552b0e4f4af59419d1b70f5",
  "mrkl_root":"2d9712cefa0f81ac0fb6cb0812567c5f572ab9f0309e803fb01b039e1938fdf6",
  "time":1310829862,


Block 136584:

{
  "hash":"000000000000035ac219a1a52dde48ccd7348deed858b1da47b0f16b7ac70ea2",
  "ver":1,
  "prev_block":"00000000000001d7635c5037bd97519b583cd995a56edc0018dfb9a39106f758",
  "mrkl_root":"61e5c0c6a611568131217f21b69a4ac96c5bb5598a704627a3aecf8584d1ff9c",
  "time":1310829862,


Is this a first? Did deepbit just figure out the ultimate hack to avoid invalid blocks?  Tongue


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July 16, 2011, 05:12:19 PM
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What's invalid?  The fact that the timestamp is the same doesn't mean that the blocks happened at the exact same time.  The time stamp of the later block can actually be earlier than the earlier one.  Why?  Because the timestamp is taken from the system clock of the computer doing the mining, which is likely not synchronized with atomic time.

Bitcoin doesn't validate the timestamps to precision - it only validates them to be within a reasonable window, like two hours.

Companies claiming they got hacked and lost your coins sounds like fraud so perfect it could be called fashionable.  I never believe them.  If I ever experience the misfortune of a real intrusion, I declare I have been honest about the way I have managed the keys in Casascius Coins.  I maintain no ability to recover or reproduce the keys, not even under limitless duress or total intrusion.  Remember that trusting strangers with your coins without any recourse is, as a matter of principle, not a best practice.  Don't keep coins online. Use paper or hardware wallets instead.
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July 16, 2011, 05:32:08 PM
Last edit: July 18, 2011, 07:47:16 PM by deepceleron
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What's invalid?  The fact that the timestamp is the same doesn't mean that the blocks happened at the exact same time.  The time stamp of the later block can actually be earlier than the earlier one.  Why?  Because the timestamp is taken from the system clock of the computer doing the mining, which is likely not synchronized with atomic time.

Bitcoin doesn't validate the timestamps to precision - it only validates them to be within a reasonable window, like two hours.

I see: A timestamp is accepted as valid if it is greater than the median timestamp of previous 11 blocks, and less than the network-adjusted time + 2 hours. "Network-adjusted time" is the median of the timestamps returned by all nodes connected to you.

So there is no joy in this statistic... either miner's time could have been off - and a clock time could be up to ~1 hour negative and still be valid depending on the previous blocks.
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