[WARNING] Do not sign for any BFL package you plan to get a refund on!

[infested999]

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1mdllj/bfl_marking_order_shipped_after_i_filed_a/

I filed a chargeback via my credit card company recently and filed a claim with PayPal regarding BFL. Now, 4 days later, they marked my order as shipped and gave me tracking numbers that won't display on USPS.com. Has anyone else experienced this?

Yes. This is literally what they are doing. They did it to me as well. When they ship, REFUSE TO SIGN FOR THE PACKAGE. If you sign for the package, you accept the business agreement/transaction legally.

I did this today, after canceling on an April '13 order. They shipped anyway, told them to fuck off. (I was polite to the fedex guy)

It seems that if anyone tried to file a chargeback to get money from BFL, they will immediately ship them a package in order to make a chargeback impossible.


If you sign for a package, you can no longer get a refund from BFL!

[gmaxwell]

Uh. The subtext here is that cancelling will make them ship yours right away.

It's almost a little hard to believe since, obviously, people would eventually figure that out and the result would be pretty easy to predict.

[Bicknellski]

Uh. The subtext here is that cancelling will make them ship yours right away.

It's almost a little hard to believe since, obviously, people would eventually figure that out and the result would be pretty easy to predict.

Seems to be evidence of that happening.

[infested999]

Uh. The subtext here is that cancelling will make them ship yours right away.

It's almost a little hard to believe since, obviously, people would eventually figure that out and the result would be pretty easy to predict.

Yes, and it is a problem because at this point, nobody wants to receive their order anymore, they would rather have the refund. BFL is now trying to "trick" people into taking their miner instead of the refund by sending it to them without the customer noticing.

[bcp19]

Think these people can do a screenshot of their Feb/Mar/Apr/Whenever order having been shipped and post it?  That would be pretty good proof.

[Ridicuss]

Think these people can do a screenshot of their Feb/Mar/Apr/Whenever order having been shipped and post it?  That would be pretty good proof.

It has no credibility without such.

[bcp19]

Think these people can do a screenshot of their Feb/Mar/Apr/Whenever order having been shipped and post it?  That would be pretty good proof.

It has no credibility without such.

Wait... trolls need credibility??? 

[millsdmb]

They shipped my order when I did a credit card chargeback.  I've got a tracking number that shows it's on its way.  I'd rather have a refund, but I'm worried if I refuse to sign for it then I won't get either the refund or the product.

So your order was shipped out of place in order to prevent the money from being charged back, essentially?

[Littleshop]

Hmmm.   Units being delivered NOW won't make ROI?

[01BTC10]

I wonder what will happen when 50% of customers request chargeback this week.

[Littleshop]

I wonder what will happen when 50% of customers request chargeback this week.

I doubt that many unrefunded, undelivered credit card orders newer then six months exist.

[millsdmb]

I wonder what will happen when 50% of customers request chargeback this week.

I doubt that many unrefunded, undelivered credit card orders newer then six months exist.

I might buy one if I know they'll ship it by immediately charging back the order 

[millsdmb]

I talked to my credit card company and they said to refuse the package and they'd handle getting me the refund.

do you have a reddit account? apparently bfl doesnt know that bfl is shipping orders out of queue and wants proof.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1mch22/bfl_refund_success_sort_of_lol/cc96tm6

if I had the opportunity to stick it to them, I'd change my BFL password to "BFLSUCKSCOCK1234", give it to grnbrg, and tell him to have a blast. The account is useless after a refund anyways.

I personally don't really care for the proof. This isnt epic trollery going on here. Would still be helpful tho.

[cp1]

I talked to my credit card company and they said to refuse the package and they'd handle getting me the refund.

do you have a reddit account? apparently bfl doesnt know that bfl is shipping orders out of queue and wants proof.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1mch22/bfl_refund_success_sort_of_lol/cc96tm6

if I had the opportunity to stick it to BFL, I'd change my password to "BFLSUCKSCOCK1234", give it to grnbrg, and tell him to have a blast. The account is useless after a refund anyways.

No, it has my personal info still.

[millsdmb]

I talked to my credit card company and they said to refuse the package and they'd handle getting me the refund.

do you have a reddit account? apparently bfl doesnt know that bfl is shipping orders out of queue and wants proof.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1mch22/bfl_refund_success_sort_of_lol/cc96tm6

if I had the opportunity to stick it to BFL, I'd change my password to "BFLSUCKSCOCK1234", give it to grnbrg, and tell him to have a blast. The account is useless after a refund anyways.

No, it has my personal info still.

He's a BFL employee,

[cp1]

I talked to my credit card company and they said to refuse the package and they'd handle getting me the refund.

do you have a reddit account? apparently bfl doesnt know that bfl is shipping orders out of queue and wants proof.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1mch22/bfl_refund_success_sort_of_lol/cc96tm6

if I had the opportunity to stick it to BFL, I'd change my password to "BFLSUCKSCOCK1234", give it to grnbrg, and tell him to have a blast. The account is useless after a refund anyways.

No, it has my personal info still.

He's a BFL employee,

Then he should be able to look at orders that have shipped in the last couple weeks and see for himself.

[millsdmb]

I talked to my credit card company and they said to refuse the package and they'd handle getting me the refund.

do you have a reddit account? apparently bfl doesnt know that bfl is shipping orders out of queue and wants proof.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1mch22/bfl_refund_success_sort_of_lol/cc96tm6

if I had the opportunity to stick it to BFL, I'd change my password to "BFLSUCKSCOCK1234", give it to grnbrg, and tell him to have a blast. The account is useless after a refund anyways.

No, it has my personal info still.

He's a BFL employee,

Then he should be able to look at orders that have shipped in the last couple weeks and see for himself.

I agree.

[grnbrg]

I talked to my credit card company and they said to refuse the package and they'd handle getting me the refund.

do you have a reddit account? apparently bfl doesnt know that bfl is shipping orders out of queue and wants proof.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1mch22/bfl_refund_success_sort_of_lol/cc96tm6

if I had the opportunity to stick it to BFL, I'd change my password to "BFLSUCKSCOCK1234", give it to grnbrg, and tell him to have a blast. The account is useless after a refund anyways.

No, it has my personal info still.

He's a BFL employee,

Nope.  Forum mod, and I've been posting news to the twitter feed that I created, but I'm not staff.  Or paid, for that matter.

Yes, I was sent an 4GH/s Jalapeno for the work I've done.  Yes, I've been more pro-BFL than most.  But that's been strained lately....


grnbrg

[PuertoLibre]

I talked to my credit card company and they said to refuse the package and they'd handle getting me the refund.

do you have a reddit account? apparently bfl doesnt know that bfl is shipping orders out of queue and wants proof.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1mch22/bfl_refund_success_sort_of_lol/cc96tm6

if I had the opportunity to stick it to BFL, I'd change my password to "BFLSUCKSCOCK1234", give it to grnbrg, and tell him to have a blast. The account is useless after a refund anyways.

No, it has my personal info still.

He's a BFL employee,

Nope.  Forum mod, and I've been posting news to the twitter feed that I created, but I'm not staff.  Or paid, for that matter.

Yes, I was sent an 4GH/s Jalapeno for the work I've done.  Yes, I've been more pro-BFL than most.  But that's been strained lately....


grnbrg

[millsdmb]

Josh just butthurt that he gets outbid by "newbies" in the advertising rounds here.

I support Grnbrg's efforts tho. Didn't know he was just a mod.

I can hear the convo now..The Josh: "You want the truth, Grnbrg? You cant handle the truth"