radeon rx 560 , rx 570 or rx 580 ?

[kukelka]

hi guys,

Radeon RX570 or 580 hashrate is a lot bigger than rx560, but the price of the card is also a lot higher, but again,  570 or 580 will use less space on your rig.

But can you guys tell exactly how much hashrate its possible to squeeze from each gpu ?

So which you would choose from these cards?

Or maybe there is even better cards, good relation between the price and the quality/hashrate.

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[kukelka]

what about this one:
Sapphire Radeon Rx 580 8gb Nitro+ Special Edition

Manufacturer: Sapphire
Original Series: Radeon 500
Based On Radeon RX 580
Custom Series Sapphire NITRO
Cooling Solution Sapphire Dual-X
Released After April 18th, 2017
Graphics Processing Unit
GPU ModelPolaris 20 XT(X/R) (Polaris 10)
ArchitectureAMD Polaris GCN 4.0
Fabrication Process14 nm FinFET
Die Size232 mm2
Transistors Count5.7B
Stream Processors 2304
TMUs 144
ROPs 32
Clocks
Boost Clock 1430 MHz (+6.7%)
Memory Clock 2100 MHz (+5.0%)
Effective Memory Clock
8400 Mbps (+5.0%)
Memory Configuration
Memory Size 8192 MB
Memory Type GDDR5
Memory Bus Width 256-bit
Memory Bandwidth 268.8 GB/s
Physical
InterfacePCI-Express 3.0 x16
Power Connectors1 6-pin, 1 8-pin
TDP/TBP> 185 W
Recommended PSU500 W
Multi-GPU Support 4-way
Display Outputs
DVI-D DualLink1
DisplayPort2
HDMI 2.02
API Support
DirectX12.0
Vulkan1.0
OpenGL4.5
OpenCL2.1
Shader Model 5.0

[MATHReX]

RX 570/580 will net you around 28-31 MH/s depending on ASIC quality, Overclocking ability and temps.
RX 560 will perform around 12-15 MH/s.
If you can get RX560 for less than half the price of RX 570, then a 13GPU rig will be convenient to build.

[kukelka]

RX 570/580 will net you around 28-31 MH/s depending on ASIC quality, Overclocking ability and temps.
RX 560 will perform around 12-15 MH/s.
If you can get RX560 for less than half the price of RX 570, then a 13GPU rig will be convenient to build.

what about power consumptions?
I see 570/580 price about $550.
Rx 560 price about $200.

[crocozino]

of course you should take amd rx 570, because this is the optimum card, for example MSI RX570 gaming has hynix memory and speed 30-30.5mh/s  for ETH, but cost much less then RX580! why pay more?  
with RX560 you'll have to spend more for PSU, memory, cpu,mainboard and so on

[kukelka]

of course you should take amd rx 570, because this is the optimum card, for example MSI RX570 gaming has hynix memory and speed 30-30.5mh/s  for ETH, but cost much less then RX580! why pay more?  
with RX560 you'll have to spend more for PSU, memory, cpu,mainboard and so on

thank you for advices.
I saw rx 570 selling for 420Eur, what you think is it good price?

[pircklr1]

If I may steal this thread for my own purposes, does someone has any opinions on my case:
I have an opportunity to buy a rig that costs 2400 euro and includes 6 x RX580 and 1x GTX 1070.
The second possibility is to buy 6x rx 570, 4x rx 480, and 3x rx 580 for 3000 euro.
Any opinions on which one seems more reasonable or if I should take somehting into consideration before spending my money?
I am still thinking about just investing this money also on cryptocurrencies but I would like the idea of having a passive income, but somewhat few cryptocurrencies currently provide the potential income that a mining rig provides, if we assume that the prices remain relatively unchanged during the next 12 months (i.e. bitcoin bouncing between 4k and 20k).

[kukelka]

If I may steal this thread for my own purposes, does someone has any opinions on my case:
I have an opportunity to buy a rig that costs 2400 euro and includes 6 x RX580 and 1x GTX 1070.
The second possibility is to buy 6x rx 570, 4x rx 480, and 3x rx 580 for 3000 euro.
Any opinions on which one seems more reasonable or if I should take somehting into consideration before spending my money?
I am still thinking about just investing this money also on cryptocurrencies but I would like the idea of having a passive income, but somewhat few cryptocurrencies currently provide the potential income that a mining rig provides, if we assume that the prices remain relatively unchanged during the next 12 months (i.e. bitcoin bouncing between 4k and 20k).

it's okay mate Nice questions, interesting to see answers too!

By the way, i see that many people are selling rigs in my country, any idea why they selling? i mean, maybe they panicking after recent crypto bleed or improving their hardwares, so they sell current ones..

In your countries there are also many people who selling ready to work and mine rigs?

[pircklr1]

If I may steal this thread for my own purposes, does someone has any opinions on my case:
I have an opportunity to buy a rig that costs 2400 euro and includes 6 x RX580 and 1x GTX 1070.
The second possibility is to buy 6x rx 570, 4x rx 480, and 3x rx 580 for 3000 euro.
Any opinions on which one seems more reasonable or if I should take somehting into consideration before spending my money?
I am still thinking about just investing this money also on cryptocurrencies but I would like the idea of having a passive income, but somewhat few cryptocurrencies currently provide the potential income that a mining rig provides, if we assume that the prices remain relatively unchanged during the next 12 months (i.e. bitcoin bouncing between 4k and 20k).

it's okay mate Nice questions, interesting to see answers too!

By the way, i see that many people are selling rigs in my country, any idea why they selling? i mean, maybe they panicking after recent crypto bleed or improving their hardwares, so they sell current ones..

In your countries there are also many people who selling ready to work and mine rigs?

I have seen the amount of rigs on sale increasing, and this is definitely most likely due to the bleeding, and is obvious since a few months ago everyone got superhyped about cryptocurrencies and now they saw the other side of the market and some of these people decided to cut losses / sell their new equipment since they still should be able to get their original investments easily back. However, most mining rigs I have checked are being sold to make profit: the seller keeps building and selling rigs for small profit. In some cases, the owner wants to update his or her system (i.e. move to GTX 1080 or other GPUs). However, overall there are quite few rigs available.

[TrusteD_KZ]

Obviously RX570 is best choice here.

[pircklr1]

Obviously RX570 is best choice here.

Thanks for this.

[androstan1234]

Now is not a good time to buy polaris cards for mining.  Period.

[pircklr1]

Now is not a good time to buy polaris cards for mining.  Period.

Wow, ok. Is there any specific reason for this? I have similar feelings due to hearing people selling these cards and moving to GTX 10x0 cards but have not found any specific explanation for this especially when it's very difficult to find these GPUs and their price is way higher.

[androstan1234]

Now is not a good time to buy polaris cards for mining.  Period.

Wow, ok. Is there any specific reason for this? I have similar feelings due to hearing people selling these cards and moving to GTX 10x0 cards but have not found any specific explanation for this especially when it's very difficult to find these GPUs and their price is way higher.

They cost too much for what they do.  Their value is very reliant on the value of eth.  If you can get 570s at around $200 that's prob worth it.

If buying amd, you're mainly paying for the memory, not the gpu.  So get lower end cards at or close to msrp.  Not worth it to pay a premium for some high end turbocharged edition when you're basically going to suppress the core anyway.

[chandrarahmadewa]

I don't have experience with 560. 570/580 4Gb, both will produce around 28Mhs, 570/580 8Gb around 30-31 may almost 32 Mhs on Ethash with mod and OC. Some people also calculate hash/watt to calculate device profitability. You can do the same.

[kukelka]

Now is not a good time to buy polaris cards for mining.  Period.

Wow, ok. Is there any specific reason for this? I have similar feelings due to hearing people selling these cards and moving to GTX 10x0 cards but have not found any specific explanation for this especially when it's very difficult to find these GPUs and their price is way higher.

They cost too much for what they do.  Their value is very reliant on the value of eth.  If you can get 570s at around $200 that's prob worth it.

If buying amd, you're mainly paying for the memory, not the gpu.  So get lower end cards at or close to msrp.  Not worth it to pay a premium for some high end turbocharged edition when you're basically going to suppress the core anyway.

i dont think it's possible to get 570s for around $200...

[bnok]

Now is not a good time to buy polaris cards for mining.  Period.

+1

With the new nVidia generation incoming, Samsung building ASICs chip, I think its not a good time to buy mining stuff at all, save your money and wait few months, new things are coming.

[kukelka]

I am able to get these cards for about $350.
Is these good cards and what hashrate these could get?

8GB MSI Radeon RX 570 ARMOR

[yhoga45]

Try sapphire nitro+. This card is very popular for gpu mining. The pther card maybe asus strix or msi gaming x. 580 8gb is can reach 28-31 mhs for ethereum. But this card price is higher now, maybe 560 is better for roi now but if you have a lot of money my suggestion choose 570. You are true if we choose 560 we need more pcie and for me it’s better because i haven’t a lot money 

[Eisenkopf89]

My RX570 4GB Red Devil make 29 MH/s. I think the 570 is atm the best option if you get them cheap.

[Buyingallcoinsz]

hi guys,

Radeon RX570 or 580 hashrate is a lot bigger than rx560, but the price of the card is also a lot higher, but again,  570 or 580 will use less space on your rig.

But can you guys tell exactly how much hashrate its possible to squeeze from each gpu ?

So which you would choose from these cards?

Or maybe there is even better cards, good relation between the price and the quality/hashrate.


Hmm definately the latter man

[kukelka]

My RX570 4GB Red Devil make 29 MH/s. I think the 570 is atm the best option if you get them cheap.

$350 is cheap or not in your opinion ?

[Eisenkopf89]

My RX570 4GB Red Devil make 29 MH/s. I think the 570 is atm the best option if you get them cheap.

$350 is cheap or not in your opinion ?

For the moment the price looks nice. But a few weeks ago it was about 230$

[androstan1234]

My RX570 4GB Red Devil make 29 MH/s. I think the 570 is atm the best option if you get them cheap.

$350 is cheap or not in your opinion ?

For the moment the price looks nice. But a few weeks ago it was about 230$

It's just not a good time to buy a polaris gpu.

[kukelka]

My RX570 4GB Red Devil make 29 MH/s. I think the 570 is atm the best option if you get them cheap.

$350 is cheap or not in your opinion ?

For the moment the price looks nice. But a few weeks ago it was about 230$

It's just not a good time to buy a polaris gpu.

yeah prices jumped a lot, but dont you think that it wont go lower as more and more people are mining and using gpus. For example, rx570 could produce 29mh/s, so its about $50 per month. Card cost $350. 6-7months to break even. Pretty good.

[androstan1234]

My RX570 4GB Red Devil make 29 MH/s. I think the 570 is atm the best option if you get them cheap.

$350 is cheap or not in your opinion ?

For the moment the price looks nice. But a few weeks ago it was about 230$

It's just not a good time to buy a polaris gpu.

yeah prices jumped a lot, but dont you think that it wont go lower as more and more people are mining and using gpus. For example, rx570 could produce 29mh/s, so its about $50 per month. Card cost $350. 6-7months to break even. Pretty good.

Take into account risk of eth moving pos in that time, diff increasing esp if volta is good on eth and available in decent qty, bitmain releasing an "asic," and the always-present background risk inherent in crypto market.  It all adds up.  A 6-7 month roi in early 2017 is not equal to a 6-7 month roi now.  If you can roi in about 3 months you prob head off most of the impact of any of the aforementioned risks occurring.

[Pekine]

of course you should take amd rx 570, because this is the optimum card, for example MSI RX570 gaming has hynix memory and speed 30-30.5mh/s  for ETH, but cost much less then RX580! why pay more?  
with RX560 you'll have to spend more for PSU, memory, cpu,mainboard and so on

thank you for advices.
I saw rx 570 selling for 420Eur, what you think is it good price?

Not sure where you live, but I bought my msi RX580 - 8GB for 300 euro and my sapphire RX580 - 8GB for 350 euro. So I guess you can find them cheaper

[RYXES]

Profitability aint great right not for mining with RX family.

It will go up again but right now its a bit painful.

[kukelka]

My RX570 4GB Red Devil make 29 MH/s. I think the 570 is atm the best option if you get them cheap.

$350 is cheap or not in your opinion ?

For the moment the price looks nice. But a few weeks ago it was about 230$

It's just not a good time to buy a polaris gpu.

yeah prices jumped a lot, but dont you think that it wont go lower as more and more people are mining and using gpus. For example, rx570 could produce 29mh/s, so its about $50 per month. Card cost $350. 6-7months to break even. Pretty good.

Take into account risk of eth moving pos in that time, diff increasing esp if volta is good on eth and available in decent qty, bitmain releasing an "asic," and the always-present background risk inherent in crypto market.  It all adds up.  A 6-7 month roi in early 2017 is not equal to a 6-7 month roi now.  If you can roi in about 3 months you prob head off most of the impact of any of the aforementioned risks occurring.

totally agree. These factors makes me worry...
But I dont think that there are possibilities to break even in 3 months. Cards are expensive, this make ROI fastest in 6+ months.

[kukelka]

of course you should take amd rx 570, because this is the optimum card, for example MSI RX570 gaming has hynix memory and speed 30-30.5mh/s  for ETH, but cost much less then RX580! why pay more?  
with RX560 you'll have to spend more for PSU, memory, cpu,mainboard and so on

thank you for advices.
I saw rx 570 selling for 420Eur, what you think is it good price?

Not sure where you live, but I bought my msi RX580 - 8GB for 300 euro and my sapphire RX580 - 8GB for 350 euro. So I guess you can find them cheaper

wow, really nice prices !
In my country these cards are minimum 400Eur...

[Branko]

of course you should take amd rx 570, because this is the optimum card, for example MSI RX570 gaming has hynix memory and speed 30-30.5mh/s  for ETH, but cost much less then RX580! why pay more?  
with RX560 you'll have to spend more for PSU, memory, cpu,mainboard and so on

thank you for advices.
I saw rx 570 selling for 420Eur, what you think is it good price?

Not sure where you live, but I bought my msi RX580 - 8GB for 300 euro and my sapphire RX580 - 8GB for 350 euro. So I guess you can find them cheaper

wow, really nice prices !
In my country these cards are minimum 400Eur...

Sapphire RX580 8GB SE is 600€ here, lol

[kukelka]

of course you should take amd rx 570, because this is the optimum card, for example MSI RX570 gaming has hynix memory and speed 30-30.5mh/s  for ETH, but cost much less then RX580! why pay more?  
with RX560 you'll have to spend more for PSU, memory, cpu,mainboard and so on

thank you for advices.
I saw rx 570 selling for 420Eur, what you think is it good price?

Not sure where you live, but I bought my msi RX580 - 8GB for 300 euro and my sapphire RX580 - 8GB for 350 euro. So I guess you can find them cheaper

wow, really nice prices !
In my country these cards are minimum 400Eur...

Sapphire RX580 8GB SE is 600€ here, lol

Saphire here in my country cost about $500. But why to buy 580 if 570 are cheaper and produce similar hashrate?

[androstan1234]

My RX570 4GB Red Devil make 29 MH/s. I think the 570 is atm the best option if you get them cheap.

$350 is cheap or not in your opinion ?

For the moment the price looks nice. But a few weeks ago it was about 230$

It's just not a good time to buy a polaris gpu.

yeah prices jumped a lot, but dont you think that it wont go lower as more and more people are mining and using gpus. For example, rx570 could produce 29mh/s, so its about $50 per month. Card cost $350. 6-7months to break even. Pretty good.

Take into account risk of eth moving pos in that time, diff increasing esp if volta is good on eth and available in decent qty, bitmain releasing an "asic," and the always-present background risk inherent in crypto market.  It all adds up.  A 6-7 month roi in early 2017 is not equal to a 6-7 month roi now.  If you can roi in about 3 months you prob head off most of the impact of any of the aforementioned risks occurring.

totally agree. These factors makes me worry...
But I dont think that there are possibilities to break even in 3 months. Cards are expensive, this make ROI fastest in 6+ months.

Erego, now is not a good time to buy a polaris gpu.

[Iamtutut]

It's not a good time to buy any new GPU, whatever AMD or NVIDIA, but GPU mining still is profitable.

[androstan1234]

Fair enough, but NVIDIA probably a safer/better buy at least.

[Iamtutut]

I almost get 60MH/s from 2 RX 570 4GB (190W for both according to GPU-Z and afterburner) mining ETH only, considering GTX1060 are much slower and GTX1070/1070Ti much more expensive (>500€), i think Polaris based GPU are very relevant for mining, at least ethereum.

[kukelka]

can someone tell which other parts are good for mining and for rx570 gpus? motherboard, ram and other stuff.

[Mattthev]

I almost get 60MH/s from 2 RX 570 4GB (190W for both according to GPU-Z and afterburner) mining ETH only, considering GTX1060 are much slower and GTX1070/1070Ti much more expensive (>500€), i think Polaris based GPU are very relevant for mining, at least ethereum.

That is only core power consumption... at wall it would be a way higher.

[clems]

of course you should take amd rx 570, because this is the optimum card, for example MSI RX570 gaming has hynix memory and speed 30-30.5mh/s  for ETH, but cost much less then RX580! why pay more?  
with RX560 you'll have to spend more for PSU, memory, cpu,mainboard and so on

thank you for advices.
I saw rx 570 selling for 420Eur, what you think is it good price?

Not sure where you live, but I bought my msi RX580 - 8GB for 300 euro and my sapphire RX580 - 8GB for 350 euro. So I guess you can find them cheaper

wow, really nice prices !
In my country these cards are minimum 400Eur...

Sapphire RX580 8GB SE is 600€ here, lol

Around 500$ for me and 560 are around 150$ so better to buy 3 560

[Branko]

Around 500$ for me and 560 are around 150$ so better to buy 3 560

Consider yourself lucky, price increased here meanwhile

https://www.links.hr/hr/graficka-kartica-pci-e-sapphire-amd-radeon-rx-580-nitro-special-edition-8gb-gddr5-hdmi-dp-dvi-051800371?utm_source=nabava.net&utm_campaign=nabava.net&utm_medium=click

thats about €700, or $900

And you would not believe it, but people still buy them

[Mattthev]

Around 500$ for me and 560 are around 150$ so better to buy 3 560

Consider yourself lucky, price increased here meanwhile

https://www.links.hr/hr/graficka-kartica-pci-e-sapphire-amd-radeon-rx-580-nitro-special-edition-8gb-gddr5-hdmi-dp-dvi-051800371?utm_source=nabava.net&utm_campaign=nabava.net&utm_medium=click

thats about €700, or $900

And you would not believe it, but people still buy them

Almost same in here.

[ckai93]

after reading this thread, it's probably a good idea to just grab the deal i got offered:

3x RX 560 Sapphire Pulse 4GB

for about 400 USD total

But yea, looking forward to the rumored Nvidia cards and Samsung ASICs. I'm pretty sure they're gonna be expensive AF and get snatched up before it hits the market like all those "Mining Variant" cards that everyone thinks that they're shitty. Cuz big mining farms don't care.