cbhelp
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September 20, 2013, 01:01:22 AM |
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I am a bad comedian...confirmed ITT
Was that another attempt? No...now I don't get it ;( |
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bg002h
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I outlived my lifetime membership:)
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September 20, 2013, 01:09:55 AM |
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zebedee
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September 20, 2013, 02:22:28 PM |
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Dude has apparently decided to stop being a dude.... I'd love to know the story here.
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skeltoac
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September 20, 2013, 09:21:47 PM |
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Until I saw that the block was mined by a pool that pays out transaction fees I thought this would be somebody trying to hide transactions from network analysis.
You can mine a block containing transactions you haven't broadcast. So you can keep your own transaction fees, effectively transferring arbitrary sums to addresses where no actual transactions exist between sender and recipient.
There are plenty of miners with sufficient hashing power to solo mine and get a block every now and then.
blockchain.info seems to ignore transaction fees in its taint analysis. Are there any network analysis tools that treat mining fees as transactions?
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Raoul Duke
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September 20, 2013, 09:39:37 PM |
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Raw transactions are awesome!
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Fiyasko
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Okey Dokey Lokey
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September 20, 2013, 10:32:13 PM |
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Until I saw that the block was mined by a pool that pays out transaction fees I thought this would be somebody trying to hide transactions from network analysis.
You can mine a block containing transactions you haven't broadcast. So you can keep your own transaction fees, effectively transferring arbitrary sums to addresses where no actual transactions exist between sender and recipient.
There are plenty of miners with sufficient hashing power to solo mine and get a block every now and then.
blockchain.info seems to ignore transaction fees in its taint analysis. Are there any network analysis tools that treat mining fees as transactions?
Oh, Neat! i hadn't even thought of that possibility! |
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eleuthria (OP)
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September 20, 2013, 10:51:10 PM |
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Until I saw that the block was mined by a pool that pays out transaction fees I thought this would be somebody trying to hide transactions from network analysis.
You can mine a block containing transactions you haven't broadcast. So you can keep your own transaction fees, effectively transferring arbitrary sums to addresses where no actual transactions exist between sender and recipient.
There are plenty of miners with sufficient hashing power to solo mine and get a block every now and then.
blockchain.info seems to ignore transaction fees in its taint analysis. Are there any network analysis tools that treat mining fees as transactions?
Unfortunately trying to do that would basically add taint to the vast majority of the network. A block generation transaction is a single output of the subsidy+tx fees with no input. So you couldn't trace it back through inputs, you'd have to basically consider every single transaction from the block an input if it had a fee, which would be extremely messy. Additionally, you couldn't tell the difference between the subsidy and the txfee, so anything that was ever sent through that block's coin generation is now tainted. |
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Rez
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September 20, 2013, 11:23:30 PM |
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25+ BTC in excessive fees in the past 7 hours.
Excessive fees in the past 7 hours associated with 1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX have come from the following 6 addresses:
13wTPZNYattorneyGeneralsOfficexdgnNDzFV48vbePTPXXHzFTKYo (fees 0.05 BTC)
1FincenxZKPQHa4GHJMLCta5CUPUeZ5uMoZrop (fees 3 BTC)
1FinCENQi9r7HbU9hvPo7Zr6p2ar8i4vedkH4q (fees 11 BTC)
1JzmoneyTransmitter2J6D8UgiLiy8PwwJ2kvgo4N5PGop3J (fees 6 BTC)
1KfbiHRiUCSHk8poq6wPYsvBtRzj9Ah4so (fees 0.1 BTC)
1Yolow6NrfcK51TZrKsGJ1vnjzSAygXTBH3C (fees 4.5 BTC)
FYP I lawled. |
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cbhelp
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September 20, 2013, 11:26:04 PM |
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25+ BTC in excessive fees in the past 7 hours.
Excessive fees in the past 7 hours associated with 1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX have come from the following 6 addresses:
13wTPZNYattorneyGeneralsOfficexdgnNDzFV48vbePTPXXHzFTKYo (fees 0.05 BTC)
1FincenxZKPQHa4GHJMLCta5CUPUeZ5uMoZrop (fees 3 BTC)
1FinCENQi9r7HbU9hvPo7Zr6p2ar8i4vedkH4q (fees 11 BTC)
1JzmoneyTransmitter2J6D8UgiLiy8PwwJ2kvgo4N5PGop3J (fees 6 BTC)
1KfbiHRiUCSHk8poq6wPYsvBtRzj9Ah4so (fees 0.1 BTC)
1Yolow6NrfcK51TZrKsGJ1vnjzSAygXTBH3C (fees 4.5 BTC)
FYP I lawled. Glad someone laughed  |
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b!z
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September 21, 2013, 06:06:57 AM |
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Most expensive money laundering scheme ever lol
Why would you launder money with BTC when txs are visible in the blockchain? Even with mixers there are better ways for people to hide their money. |
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cbhelp
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September 21, 2013, 10:22:16 AM |
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Most expensive money laundering scheme ever lol
Why would you launder money with BTC when txs are visible in the blockchain? Even with mixers there are better ways for people to hide their money. It wasn't literal..... |
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franky1
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September 21, 2013, 08:39:23 PM |
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i think someone was messing with raw transactions to do a send many.. and got confused between transaction amount to second person... and transaction fee.
i cant see why anyone would throw that amount away, valued at thousands of FIAT for no good reason
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Please do your own research & respect what is written here as both opinion & information gleaned from experience. many people replying with insults but no on-topic content substance, automatically are 'facepalmed' and yawned at
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September 21, 2013, 09:09:59 PM |
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loquitus_of_borg
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February 18, 2014, 11:03:39 PM |
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Was this a genuine bug in the person's software?
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Baitty
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February 18, 2014, 11:04:44 PM |
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Was this a genuine bug in the person's software?
Probably experimenting with raw outputs and made a few mistakes and sent a lot of transactions on accident. |
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loquitus_of_borg
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February 18, 2014, 11:25:34 PM |
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Poor fellah. Sucky. Was this a genuine bug in the person's software?
Probably experimenting with raw outputs and made a few mistakes and sent a lot of transactions on accident. |
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Lauda
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February 18, 2014, 11:25:44 PM |
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Someone just donated a lot of money.  |
"The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks" 😼 Bitcoin Core ( onion) |
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seriouscoin
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February 19, 2014, 12:04:29 AM |
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Someone just donated a lot of money. The thread is 6 months old for gods sake |
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loquitus_of_borg
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February 19, 2014, 01:18:01 AM |
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Not sure why that matters. This is still an interesting discussion, particularly since people have replied to my original "awakening" of it. This includes your own comment . Someone just donated a lot of money. The thread is 6 months old for gods sake |
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RichG
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February 19, 2014, 01:31:39 AM |
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1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX, you fail.
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