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January 30, 2011, 11:15:14 AM
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This is also what makes the libertarian view so hard to sell, how do you pitch a plan based on doing nothing?

Don't talk about a plan to do nothing.
Instead, engage in direct action that does something to build up alternatives to the government.

"We will not find a solution to political problems in cryptography, but we can win a major battle in the arms race and gain a new territory of freedom for several years.

Governments are good at cutting off the heads of a centrally controlled networks, but pure P2P networks are holding their own."
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January 31, 2011, 11:48:19 AM
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When you take away resources from the private sector to fund whatever socialist/liberal policy you advocate, you're destroying the potential of the highly creative force of the free market to use those resources to provide what society need in the most efficient manner.

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Consider the production of raw material, such as concrete or steel. If they were still being produced in the country suffering economic problems, the limitations of private ownership (fiduciary responsibility to meet quarterly targets) will force the companies to lay off large portions of their labor forces. This will further depress the economy, as the laid-off workers no longer have the ability to consume goods and services. The process degenerates via a positive-feedback mechanism.

If the government was to tax the private sector to prop up the depressed steel industry, it would be starving the economy of those resources which are needed in other industries. Specifically, in industries that the market has favored over steel. If steel is failing it means that the economy thinks steel is not as important as other things, economic problems or not.

There is no positive feedback mechanism; there is a negative feedback mechanism. The steel industry will contract to meet the needs of the reduced market. This is a stable process/system.

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1) the government funding basic research to develop technologies that are to be commercialized by private companies
Private sector would do it better, and if not, then it means there were more important uses for those funds.
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2) the private companies that take those technologies and repackage/market them (for a hefty price) to the people that already paid to have them developed in the first place.
So what you're describing is the government forcing people to pay for research in X so they can reap the rewards of X. But who are you to decide that people need/want X? Better to let them spend money where they see fit. This is also more democratic as you vote with your wallet.

Centrally planning the economy always ends up hurting it.
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February 02, 2011, 06:57:07 PM
Last edit: February 02, 2011, 09:23:00 PM by markm
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Quote "Counterfeiting is not a real crime. Putting ink on paper hurts no one."

If that were so then how come:

Quote "The real crime is issuing notes promising to redeem for gold, breaking the promise, and maintaining the value of your pictures by force."

The "issuing notes promising to redeem for gold, breaking the promise" *is* "counterfeiting".

The fact that it might be done by people who haven't realised the notes they are counterfeiting are themselves already counterfeit just shows that the first layer of counterfeiters fooled the second layer of counterfeiters. At that point the first layer fights back against the second layer hope to "maintain[snip] the value of [their] pictures by force", which as you point out they already were prepared to do even if the second layer of counterfeiters hadn'y jumped on the bandwagon at a degree of removal.

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I often wonder about the wits of entities that spout as doctrine "we are strong therefore we are obviously going to rape you and you are too stupid to know it or too weak-willed to kill us in our sleep before we quit bragging that we are going to do it and just go ahead and do it."

Those are the strong? They have enough willpower to refrain from doing it until after the bragging? Is that more willpower than those who manage to refrain from killing them in their sleep?

Like hello, when should we stop your heart, or is this spouting essentially harmless?

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