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February 19, 2018, 09:15:44 AM
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Check the background  of the team managing the ICO. Their experiences  and profile can give you assurance  of a successful  ICO.
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February 19, 2018, 10:13:51 AM
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In fact, there is nothing to add, the author is right in everything, not every company conscientiously pays generosity and in order to choose the best for themselves one must at least give 10 minutes to read all the rules and go to the site to see if you have confidence in their endeavors.
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February 19, 2018, 10:38:20 AM
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Hi Wooki,

man I wish I had read your post in the earlier days, would have saved me an immense amount of time  Cheesy.
Great job, I hope a lot of people that are new to Cryptos will read it.

The only thing I could add would be where to find bounties (at least where I do):
a) The announcement Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.0
b) The "Free Airdrops" - App

This in addition to your (Wooki's) tips should get everybody bounty-ready.

Best wishes and great post  Smiley
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February 19, 2018, 11:02:50 AM
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It'd be a really useful article for newbies. I'd recommend to spend more time to analysis bounty conditions and spreadsheets. It's pretty useful. Sometimes doing this you can find a really good bounty to get in Wink

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February 19, 2018, 11:15:14 AM
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Thank you for your article, the experiences you shared will help me choose better bounty campaign.
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February 19, 2018, 07:52:05 PM
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Hi Wooki,

man I wish I had read your post in the earlier days, would have saved me an immense amount of time  Cheesy.
Great job, I hope a lot of people that are new to Cryptos will read it.

The only thing I could add would be where to find bounties (at least where I do):
a) The announcement Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.0
b) The "Free Airdrops" - App

This in addition to your (Wooki's) tips should get everybody bounty-ready.

Best wishes and great post  Smiley

This post is more about bounty threads than the ann threads, but both should do. But if i would like to implement a redirection link, it would be to the bounty thread  Smiley The Airdrops are entirely different topic to be discussed, there are even more scams there... Anyhow, thank you for liking my article! Smiley

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February 19, 2018, 09:14:49 PM
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Thanks for sharing. I have made mistakes already joining Airdrops and ICo amanaged by Newbies and Jr Members but have learned noe not to continues in my ignorance
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February 20, 2018, 03:40:03 AM
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A very informative information that could help the members that are not really that well versed in joining a bounty campaign ad. I definitely agree that whitepaper should be considered when choosing bounty ads and this could help gain ideas how to choose for the right ones. ICO should also be consider in joining bounty ads wherein it should have a reliable ICO team and ICO plan should be reflected on the whitepaper. You need to understand the process on how the funds are being raised for the product development which will be part on the road map of the project.
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February 20, 2018, 03:44:51 AM
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To determine the ICO the way or step you mentioned is still very inaccurate you should see the team behind the project if they do not have an experienced team it is sure the ICO will fail.

I don't really agree with this comment. Everyone has to start from somewhere. So are you saying that if the team is not someone you have "heard" of or have not done some big project, then it will fail? I don't really think this is as relevant to making a decision on if it is a good ICO or not. Even big companies now, like Stratis, or Tenx even started somewhere and when they came out, nobody has even heard of anyone on their team yet...
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February 20, 2018, 03:59:34 AM
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Do your own research about bounty ICO. Must read the ICO whitepaper. From doing that you can get a fair idea of whether this is real project or a scam. Also do not forget to get ideas from experts.
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February 20, 2018, 06:23:17 PM
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What you describe in the 2 paragraph is absolute truth, but. Often I see concealment of information - accidental or willful I do not know. The percentage that goes to paying bounty is not clear from what amount to consider. From the amount of tokens sold or the amount of tokens issued. Also, the company always reserves the right to change the conditions. Reduce the total amount of coins for bounty, change the deadline, extending the company for 2-4 months, even change the day of the end of the week (let's say it's Tuesday instead of Friday). Also you can not predict the number of participants. To calculate a more real amount is possible only at the end of the company, when the time has already been spent.

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February 20, 2018, 09:02:20 PM
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What you describe in the 2 paragraph is absolute truth, but. Often I see concealment of information - accidental or willful I do not know. The percentage that goes to paying bounty is not clear from what amount to consider. From the amount of tokens sold or the amount of tokens issued. Also, the company always reserves the right to change the conditions. Reduce the total amount of coins for bounty, change the deadline, extending the company for 2-4 months, even change the day of the end of the week (let's say it's Tuesday instead of Friday). Also you can not predict the number of participants. To calculate a more real amount is possible only at the end of the company, when the time has already been spent.

Still, you go into the bounty with some estimated number in mind. I do translations mostly (sure, my twitter is nicely growing so i will be doing that more soon, but for now, translations). For translations, the estimations are much easier. There are always at most 30 languages, often not more than 20. If the bounty pool is, lets say 70k for translations, you know, you can expect something between 1-4k depending on how active the other translators are and what you translate. You can easily say by sour own skill level, how long will the translations take. So you can easily calculate estimated hour wage. And then you have easy risk vs reward scheme Smiley

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February 20, 2018, 09:14:00 PM
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This is very informative and if any bounty hunter follows it religiously, the hunter is sure to have a very good hunt. Especially the earnings part. If a bounty hunter can consider his earnings before entering a project, it will help save time and energy that can be channeled into other projects. Having a basic knowledge of the project helps know it's growth rate capacity.
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February 20, 2018, 09:15:05 PM
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It is wasting time to check that much thing for a bounty campaign if you will not make translation or write something like a professional blog. Just check the projecct, check their telegram channel if it is empty or not and check bounty manager if the bounty manager is a well known cheater dont join.
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February 20, 2018, 09:23:52 PM
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Maybe you should consider the product/services that these ICO has to offer because as i can see most of the successful ICOs today has a good working product and all of these scam ICO projects doesnt have any good working product or they are still in the planning phase which will the a sign that the ICO would be a scam project.

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February 20, 2018, 09:31:31 PM
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Hello everyone,

As more and more bounties are giant waste of time, I decided to write up a summary of how to choose a boutny correctly. For dummies. As anyone with some experience already knows this. Most ouf us, boutny hunters got burned at least once. I want to help prevent that.

Step 1

Read the white paper.

I mean it, READ the frikin' whitepaper.
You can tell a lot from whitepaper. Does it sound familiar? Is it ultra impossible? Is it just plain shi... shinny pile of crap?! AVOID IT!

There is no reason to waste good amount of your time with an ICO bounty without really interesting, reasonably long and creative whitepaper. Any good ICO will take their time and produce quality, mistake-free and polished white paper.

Step 2

Check your possible income.

This might seem like a no-brainer, but I have seen not one too many, but TWO too many people wasting their time for really, REALLY low reward. Why would you waste X hours of your time for 10% of a reward you could get from a different ICO?

Know your price. You must know how much you value your time. To get the expected income, you need to know the following:
  • Total coin supply
  • ICO price per unit
  • Price per coin of similar project
  • Expected coins per stake

I, personaly, avoid bounties with set amount of coins/tokens as reward. Well there might be some exceptions, if the set reward is high enough, but there is a problem of authors knowing exactly how much they are willing to pay you. But if you go with the route of stakes, you are likely to get much higher reward. If the authors are willing to give 100 000$ for translation bounty, and you end up being only 1 of 20 participants in this ICO, your reward would be much higher than, let's say, reward of 60 000 tokens worth 0,01$ each.

Total coin supply will tell you, how could the coin/token grow after the listing. Coins with really high total supply will msot likely drop like and apple on Newton's head after listing. So try to participate in the bounties of ICOs with low total coin supply.

Check the spreadsheet before going in, if there are already 1 zillion people liste for the bounty you are interested it, it might be too late to accumulate enough stakes for you and you would get only a little reward. Also check the spreadsheet even after pariticipating regularly and divide the total bounty with already given out stakes and multiply it by your stakes. Count if this ICO is still nicely profiting one, or if it just became a waste of time.

Similar projects might give you an insight into the expected price after the listing.

Step 3

Admit a mistake.

Everyone makes mistakes. You are everyone. Don't be stubborn, get out of failed bounties, save your time, get yourself an ice cream as a consolation prize.

If in the process of working for some ICO in a boutny program you figure out, that this ICO is a fraud, stop working for them. It is that simple. Do not promote thiefs. Don't let other people get robbed by terrible ICO, which will jsut grab their money and disapper. Take the loss like a human you are (see? gender neutral!) and move on.

UPDATE
Thanks for great feedback. After reading through comments, i decided to add an update with step 4!

Step 4

Check the bounty manager and the team.

If the ICO is managed by newbie or Jr. Member bounty manager, you might want to avoid it. Try looking at the past projects of the bounty manager. Were the projects successfull? Does the bounty manager has great positive feedback? On the other hand, if he is negative-trusted, avoid him completly. If the past projects were really successfull, you can be pretty much sure, that you will receive the promised reward.

Also you can see the team behind the project msotly around the end of a whitepaper or on the website. Check their previous experiences. Google them. check their profile pictures, if they are taken from the internet or if they are genuine. Do you due diligence, don't be lazy!


Those 4 steps are the absolute minimum you need to know before and right after getting into a bounty program. I hope this article will help someone. Until next time, BYE!
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February 20, 2018, 09:33:59 PM
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This all makes lots of sense. I thought I would give bounties a bash and what your saying already makes sense.

My only other thing to add would be try not to spend a disproportionate amount of time reading taking part in them as you loose the real reason for the forum being here.

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February 20, 2018, 09:55:23 PM
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Thanks a lot for this thread it is a big help for me and for the who just starting as a bounty hunter. I will use this information so that i will not waste my time for those bounty that is not profitable. And i will use this tips to get a huge amount of bounties.
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February 20, 2018, 10:02:50 PM
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This is very helpful for those newbies who are lazy enough to conduct their own research,so they wont be wasting their time these scam projects.Most of the new bounty and ICO hunters doesnt know these basic things they need to know before they join an of these ICO,or bounties,the OP's post would be the best quide on how to pick good bounties over these bunch of scam projects.

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February 20, 2018, 10:03:50 PM
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Guys, tell me where to find information about past projects of the bounty manager? Maybe there is some reference on the forum?!  Roll Eyes

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2277262.msg23099740#msg23099740

TokenSuite bounty managers are one of the most popular in this forum and they have a lot of followers including me.
Needmoney and Olcaytu2005 are two of my most trusted bounty campaign managers, most of their works and supported ICOs were made it into coinmarketcap.com
I really want to prove that the points above aren't reliable because bounty campaign manager is the best criteria on choosing good bounty campaigns and earn good bounty tokens at the end of the campaign.

I don’t really agree with you, the bounty campaign manager tries his/her best in searching for legit projects to manage their campaigns but they don’t have a say as they aren’t the ones that give out the final rewards.
If the project decides not to distribute the rewards at the end of the bounty program and end up being scam, you can’t actually  blame it on the bounty manager because he/she only managed the bounty but doesn’t have any affiliations with the project. So it’s the project that should be tagged scam and not the bounty campaign manager unless it’s a bounty manager that is also one of the team members in the project.
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