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February 20, 2018, 04:48:13 AM
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In bitcointalk forum there are really good posts even that does not earn atleast single point of merits.and there are many spam and off topic posts that earn bunch of merits.

And even some forum users does not give merits for quality posts and they share merits with only there friends for some shit posts

Some forum users who tried to make quality posts are now demotivate with this situation

Give it some time. I am waiting for the time when all the account farmers have used their default sMerits. We will see major impact thereafter.
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February 20, 2018, 05:20:28 AM
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Its too early to say that it is successful but as far as i can see many member of this forum are now trying to post more constructive to gain merit and they able to rank up their account. Even their priority is to rank up to join in signature campaign the important for now is they are now more competitive member than before. I can say since merit system was launched it was decrease the shit post and spammer because those member are now trying to make quality post to achieved their aim in this forum and by posting good quality will gives positive to the forum.
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February 20, 2018, 05:39:47 AM
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your account has ranked that is safe if you agree if your account is still a newbie Huh

Yes, rank is meaningless to me. If you check the date I registered you'll work out that I would easily be Legendary in rank by now if I had been interested to do so. You can also see that my posts have been awarded 103 merit points in the 26 days since the merit system was introduced. That means the system wouldn't have made any difference to my rank if it had always been there anyway, as that's a lot quicker than activity could be gained.

The only reason to care about rank is if you are here primarily to earn money for posting. I'm getting paid for my signature right now but I see that as a bonus, not a reason to be here.


Ooopps..!
I think there's something missing a very important things.
You know what? I guees you couldn't say that, if merit was not implemented. Also you couldn't realized what the important role of merit and ranks if theres no merit.
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February 20, 2018, 05:46:39 AM
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your account has ranked that is safe if you agree if your account is still a newbie Huh

Yes, rank is meaningless to me. If you check the date I registered you'll work out that I would easily be Legendary in rank by now if I had been interested to do so. You can also see that my posts have been awarded 103 merit points in the 26 days since the merit system was introduced. That means the system wouldn't have made any difference to my rank if it had always been there anyway, as that's a lot quicker than activity could be gained.

The only reason to care about rank is if you are here primarily to earn money for posting. I'm getting paid for my signature right now but I see that as a bonus, not a reason to be here.


Ooopps..!
I think there's something missing a very important things.
You know what? I guees you couldn't say that, if merit was not implemented. Also you couldn't realized what the important role of merit and ranks if theres no merit.

No, I absolutely could and would say that regardless.

 

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February 20, 2018, 06:04:48 AM
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I really don't have problems with this merit system. Shit posting and greedy bounty hunters are really annoying that it has to be addressed. The forum is supposed to be for learning and meaningful posts. I am actually here in order to update and read some rumors and comments on the coins the I am trading and holding. I don't even care if I will remain a Senior forever as long as the forum remains clean.
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February 20, 2018, 07:26:07 AM
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It is not really matter wither merit system will be a success, the point here is to participate in bitcoin discussion and developmnt of this system. But merit system plays a big role in this forum, by this system users are aiming merits by making their post resourceful and useful. And also, this system prevents those retard posters or we just say shitposters which is the big problem here in Bitcointalk.
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February 20, 2018, 08:30:55 AM
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Merit system is:
1) Success for the forum.
2) Failure for shit posters.
3) Motivation for members with positive attitude.

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February 20, 2018, 08:53:15 AM
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Merit system is:
1) Success for the forum.
Yes it is success for our beloved forum i saw it now there are many post that deserved to have an smerit.
But sad thing to know that there are some post who have an smerit even it's look like spam to the sewer.
Merit system is:
2) Failure for shit posters.
Not only for shit poster but those farmer account surely they wont rank up with this new merit system.
Hopefully those accounts level red tag by DT members was lessen.
Merit system is:
3) Motivation for members with positive attitude.
And also those members who have honest in forum no cheating or other activity that prohibited by the forum.
Hopefully this new system now did not abuse by the others.
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February 20, 2018, 09:14:26 AM
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In bitcointalk forum there are really good posts even that does not earn atleast single point of merits.and there are many spam and off topic posts that earn bunch of merits.

And even some forum users does not give merits for quality posts and they share merits with only there friends for some shit posts

Some forum users who tried to make quality posts are now demotivate with this situation

I think it will be successful to other, and will not successful to other also. Why? I strongly agree with you, most merits given in off topics and with friends because actually that will be the system now. The post that have quality will not be given merit because of what? You will see the difference, and I think merit system is not successful.
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February 20, 2018, 09:48:37 AM
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If you are talking about whether it is helpful for the forum or not, I guess it will take some time to show its effects.
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February 20, 2018, 12:22:54 PM
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If anything what it has done is put off many users that were just here to try and spam forums for post count and activity. I'm sure we can all agree that this has been reduced since the introduction of merit.
All I can do is just give merit where I think it is deserved. For me really detailed post should get top merit and even if a post is just contributing positively to the forums it should get a merit.
Time will tell if merit works or not.

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February 21, 2018, 08:26:08 AM
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your account has ranked that is safe if you agree if your account is still a newbie Huh

Yes, rank is meaningless to me. If you check the date I registered you'll work out that I would easily be Legendary in rank by now if I had been interested to do so. You can also see that my posts have been awarded 103 merit points in the 26 days since the merit system was introduced. That means the system wouldn't have made any difference to my rank if it had always been there anyway, as that's a lot quicker than activity could be gained.

The only reason to care about rank is if you are here primarily to earn money for posting. I'm getting paid for my signature right now but I see that as a bonus, not a reason to be here.


This is a good read and a motivation @TheQuin! I hope that this system will develop in a way where us newly users will not struggle so hard just to earn merits since currently, the standards set were too high and then there is also the scarcity of Smerits that can be given.
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February 21, 2018, 09:19:32 AM
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Yes it is effective as I browse also in some bounty campaign, I saw a campaign (I don't want to name it since they may delete my answer), I saw 6 people on the signature campaign, compared to twitter that has already hundreds of participants, like around 300, and more tho hundred for the FB, Imagine six??? That's the effect of the merit too, some realize that they might not earn merit to step on the next rank and receiving same number stake over and over again joining sig campaign.
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February 22, 2018, 11:15:22 AM
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In term of success  I think yes.
Look to these threads how this guy busted because of merit system.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2902250.0;all
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2992561.0

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February 22, 2018, 11:43:33 AM
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Whether it is success or not but I am sure that slowly it will affect everyone when they will realise the value of higher ranks. The higher rank will be the greed for those people and to get that one they will no way but to post quality matter in the forum and help it avoid the shit posting. That way they will automatically learn how to make quality posts.

Speaking about the giving merits to friends and exchanging them, I don’t think it will last for longer as such activity can turn into fishy one and those involved in such activities might get caught in bad action. So let’s give it some more time.
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February 22, 2018, 12:46:15 PM
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I think there are some problems from merit system.
first, the distribution of merit is not in someone who has the ability to assign a quality post.
So giving merit on a post is more subjective.
Second, only certain people give merit to quality posts. while others only give merit to people he knows.

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February 22, 2018, 02:36:45 PM
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So giving merit on a post is more subjective.


Of course it is subjective. How can we possibly come up with a rule on the type of posts you can or should give merit to? People leave them for helpful or constructive posts but what is helpful of constructive is up to the individual.


Second, only certain people give merit to quality posts. while others only give merit to people he knows.

Maybe the most well known users make the best posts? People become known in the community by being active and helpful so it's natural they will get the most merits, though on the flip side merits are largely useless for higher ranked accounts so I would rather give them out to lower ranked ones but to be honest lower ranks tend not to make great posts.

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February 22, 2018, 03:31:43 PM
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Some forum users who tried to make quality posts are now demotivate with this situation

Why does merit matter to you? If you came to this forum to learn about Bitcoin, participate in discussions and just get involved, then it really shouldn't make any difference to you.

It seems merits don't matter to you huh? You know full well that most of us here, want to have an alternative source of income besides our job and while it is true that we are participating in different discussions in the forum, we want to earn while we are at it, through signature campaigns, trading investing and etc. Seeing you have a signature on your profile, you can easily understand my point here.

In bitcointalk forum there are really good posts even that does not earn atleast single point of merits.and there are many spam and off topic posts that earn bunch of merits.

And even some forum users does not give merits for quality posts and they share merits with only there friends for some shit posts

Some forum users who tried to make quality posts are now demotivate with this situation

The merit system has produced good results that will benefit us "Members" as a whole. Shitposters are getting banned and giving it more time, I'm sure that we will see less of spams posts on different boards in this forum.
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February 22, 2018, 03:45:19 PM
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It seems merits don't matter to you huh? You know full well that most of us here, want to have an alternative source of income besides our job and while it is true that we are participating in different discussions in the forum, we want to earn while we are at it, through signature campaigns, trading investing and etc. Seeing you have a signature on your profile, you can easily understand my point here.

This is the problem. Posting on a forum is not a job.

Most of the time I have been on this forum I have not had a paid signature. I used to use it for referral links so I know my signature gets a lot of hits. But as I've been spending more time on the forum lately and I thought why not get a little bonus payment. The difference is I would be here posting regardless. I consider it renting out valuable advertising space rather than getting paid to post.

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February 22, 2018, 04:11:40 PM
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It seems merits don't matter to you huh? You know full well that most of us here, want to have an alternative source of income besides our job and while it is true that we are participating in different discussions in the forum, we want to earn while we are at it, through signature campaigns, trading investing and etc. Seeing you have a signature on your profile, you can easily understand my point here.

This is the problem. Posting on a forum is not a job.

Most of the time I have been on this forum I have not had a paid signature. I used to use it for referral links so I know my signature gets a lot of hits. But as I've been spending more time on the forum lately and I thought why not get a little bonus payment. The difference is I would be here posting regardless. I consider it renting out valuable advertising space rather than getting paid to post.

It is true but sad to say that it is becoming like that here. Well, you can't blame them all for wanting to have a little compensation while they are posting and putting much effort to be as informative and helpful to other members. It's just that many of us here got greedy and just here for the reward that comes along with advertising and forgot about the essence of this forum. Shitposting for the sake of their post count and not thinking entirely about what they've just posted, if it will be useful or not.
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