[PRE-SALE][ICO] Petro $PTR - Oil backed crypto currency launched by Venezuela

[Axioman]

Is another Bolivarian Kamikaze released to the forums.

 

I might start calling newb shills "kamikazes" from now on, its definitely a proper application of the word.

I´ll take it that you don't know what a kamikaze is. Anyway, he who laughs last, laughs best.

all end up crashed. there's no more

And it is not to laugh, it is to cry. Salary in Venezuela to 6 dollars per month. And according to the inefficient government rate: 18 euros per month.

[happyminer1]

venezuelans buying Petros PTR
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This of course is wrong. What people are buying are “Certificates of Saving in Petros” and not petros. They receive a piece of paper which says that they acquired a certain amount of petros, nothing more. They don’t receive petros on the blockchain.

[happyminer1]

venezuelans buying Petros PTR
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And it’s only a small number of Venezuelans who buy those “Certificates of Saving in Petros”. If you look closely at the photo of the lady who bought here certificate on 17th of January you will see that the number of her certificate is four digit, that’s below 10000. It’s difficult to read, but the first number surely isn’t a 9 or 8, so actually the number is below 8000: Less than 8000 Venezuelans bought this crap.

[coinve]

first it was that Petro doesn't exist, that petro is a scam.
finally after the release, that nobody is buying Petros.
now is that only a few are buying Petros.

happyminer and axioman think
they're going to stop Petro writing lies in a forum.
they're so fucking desperate.
it's so sad.
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explorador.petro.gob.ve
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venezuelans buying Petros PTR
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[happyminer1]

first it was that Petro doesn't exist, that petro is a scam.
finally after the release, that nobody is buying Petros.
now is that only a few are buying Petros.

I’m sorry, but these people are not buying petros but “Certificates of Saving in Petro”, something totally different from a cryptocurrency or cryptoasset. Nothing crypto about a piece of paper. (I showed you in one of my last posts how it looks.)

Even your twitter links only say (in Spanish of course) that those people received those certificates, nothing about receiving or buying petros.

The simple truth is: The petro as a cryptocurrency wasn't released yet and all the propaganda of the government can't change that.

[nutildah]

first it was that Petro doesn't exist, that petro is a scam.
finally after the release, that nobody is buying Petros.
now is that only a few are buying Petros.

happyminer and axioman think
they're going to stop Petro writing lies in a forum.
they're so fucking desperate.
it's so sad.
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explorador.petro.gob.ve
+13590 blocks

venezuelans buying Petros PTR
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Looks like they're just buying pieces of paper. No public keys on them, no private keys. Just an IOU. Maduro has gone from scamming foreigners only to scamming his own people. Coinve why do you continue to promote a scam long after its been revealed that its a scam?

[nutildah]

I gave up few months expecting development and till this day nothing new to save the scam, Maduro stole lot of money I personally invested 12 ETH at the time for a value of $5000 it is painful, now everybody Ho invested are in a group in telegram trying to exchange the PETRO/NEM onto the new scam...I have a question where is the topic moderator Tasseenb?

Coinve, this is proof that you were promoting a scam. This guy was never reimbursed in new petros despite sinking $5000 into a public crowdsale of the original petro.

I'll give you one last chance to defend yourself before tagging you as a scam promoter.

[Axioman]

venezuelans buying Petros PTR
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And it’s only a small number of Venezuelans who buy those “Certificates of Saving in Petros”. If you look closely at the photo of the lady who bought here certificate on 17th of January you will see that the number of her certificate is four digit, that’s below 10000. It’s difficult to read, but the first number surely isn’t a 9 or 8, so actually the number is below 8000: Less than 8000 Venezuelans bought this crap.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dw-qzYDX4AAOYTJ.jpg

If Maduro says that he invested 1 Petro ... and most only 0.0 ....... Catch the amount of the investment.

[Leftneck]

first it was that Petro doesn't exist, that petro is a scam.
finally after the release, that nobody is buying Petros.
now is that only a few are buying Petros.

happyminer and axioman think
they're going to stop Petro writing lies in a forum.
they're so fucking desperate.
it's so sad.
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explorador.petro.gob.ve
+13590 blocks

venezuelans buying Petros PTR
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Looks like they're just buying pieces of paper. No public keys on them, no private keys. Just an IOU. Maduro has gone from scamming foreigners only to scamming his own people. Coinve why do you continue to promote a scam long after its been revealed that its a scam?

is it true that Petro is really a scam? I don't trust this news a little, because the Venezuelan president will lie to his own people? this is like impossible

[coinve]

PETRO iS A SCAM !!!

you see?
writing that Petro is a scam won't stop Petro.
you can write all the lies you want, that won't change anything.
you're wasting your time.
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explorador.petro.gob.ve
+13710 blocks

venezuelans buying Petros PTR
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a venezuelan testing the Petro wallet
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[nutildah]

PETRO iS A SCAM !!!

you see?
writing that Petro is a scam won't stop Petro.

It's dead set on stopping itself. What we can do is try to get money back for all the non-Venezuelans that got duped into Maduro's con game. Did cryptoviagra get new petro shares? Of course not. He lost $5,000 in the fraud you are promoting on a public forum. What do you have to say to him and anybody else who lost money in Maduro's ICO fraud?

venezuelans buying Petros PTR
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Dude, do you not understand a single thing about cryptocurrency? That poor old lady holding a piece of paper in her hand -- she just gave up actual money for... a piece of paper that certifies she holds petros? What is she supposed to do with that? Who says the petro is worth anything? You can't exchange it anywhere. The only thing you can do is buy petros with bolivars or BTC. That's it. You can't cash it out -- its physically impossible.

a venezuelan testing the Petro wallet
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From the comments:

"To make a Cryptomoneda is easy!... The difficult thing is to create the confidence that surrounds it..... the petro does not give confidence.... and is not a cryptomoneda, although it has blockchain this centralized to the Venezuelan government."

[Axioman]

first it was that Petro doesn't exist, that petro is a scam.
finally after the release, that nobody is buying Petros.
now is that only a few are buying Petros.

happyminer and axioman think
they're going to stop Petro writing lies in a forum.
they're so fucking desperate.
it's so sad.
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explorador.petro.gob.ve
+13590 blocks

venezuelans buying Petros PTR
twitter1
twitter2

Looks like they're just buying pieces of paper. No public keys on them, no private keys. Just an IOU. Maduro has gone from scamming foreigners only to scamming his own people. Coinve why do you continue to promote a scam long after its been revealed that its a scam?

is it true that Petro is really a scam? I don't trust this news a little, because the Venezuelan president will lie to his own people? this is like impossible

I do not know if you speak from ignorance or consequence of irony.
If you do not know what happened and happens in Venezuela, it is difficult to understand how the Bolivarian regime acts.

[coinve]

meanwhile...
more venezuelans buying Petros PTR
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[nutildah]

meanwhile...
more venezuelans buying Petros PTR
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Dude. That's not a petro. It's an IOU for a petro which may or may not be redeemable, and for what, who knows? You really don't understand how cryptocurrency works. A coin isn't yours if you don't have its private keys. We don't even know if petros have private keys because people aren't allowed to own them. We don't even know if the coin has its own actual blockchain.

Even though I have the power to tag you with red trust, what would be the point... you only shill for this abomination of a coin that foreigners can't purchase. Apparently only retired Venezuelans can buy IOUs for them. Really I don't understand what your purpose is. Maduro already fleeced as many foreign investors as he possibly can. You do an awful job of giving legitimacy to this project, should probably just retire.

[Arnaud]

one coup d'etat later...

[STT]

venezuelans buying Petros PTR
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This of course is wrong. What people are buying are “Certificates of Saving in Petros” and not petros. They receive a piece of paper which says that they acquired a certain amount of petros, nothing more. They don’t receive petros on the blockchain.
https://i.ibb.co/GsnKY4n/certificado-petro-Dt1-BKn-Ws-AAISgm.jpg

This does pretty much defy the whole point of crypto.   I know there are other instances similar but this is pretty extreme as example of solely relying goodwill of your note issuer to come through with any value or asset in exchange for supposed worth


I'm interested to know if any kind of democracy or capitalism can be restored to Venezuela to avoid needless starvation of many to serve the purposes of the few.    Just a few people sitting at the top isnt a working system, I guess its no surprise that the route taken with crypto has been unilateral.   The blockchain might as well be an Excel spreadsheet or a normally available database from a number of makers for all the advance it represents.   I made a database in DOS many years ago, it was a basic accomplishment for me but it stored all the records accurately and in theory I could distribute, replicate and issue data notes as and when required.  However it had no unique value or utility to it that other programs couldn't offer, I couldnt expect anyone else to use it especially but it was a working exercise or example.
 So where is the USP of PTR, every idea needs something but all I see is a vehicle for a forced scenario for usage.   Again thats not what crypto is about, I'd be happy to hear of any innovation occurring

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics/buoyed-by-protesters-and-u-s-maduro-rival-claims-venezuela-presidency-idUSKCN1PH08T?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social&__twitter_impression=true

[Axioman]

It's official, salary in Venezuela minus $ 6 per month

http://www.bancodevenezuela.com/

[Arnaud]

that makes middle class Chinese and Indians rich in comparaison...

[nutildah]

Well, guess the whole project is probably going down the shitter right about now, seeing as how the whole Petro thing was Maduro's idea from Day 1, and expressly disowned by congress. I don't think he'll be in power this time next year. It's been interesting to watch.

[Arnaud]

with russian contractors backing Maduro for safety, and heavy Chinese and Russian  loans, I think Maduro and Petro is not yet gone, my only concern is that in the location of the supposed Oil plant, there is nothing more than hungry/angry people and no oils plants yet  supposed to back Petro token.

Also venezuelan oil is heavy oil mean specific technics are require to make gazoline, and those rafineries  are in united states, also the oil venezuela production fall from 3 millions barrells to 1.4- 0.7 million, as venezuela exchange trade balance is 90% dependant on oil sells, the situation is not going to change without external help.

Finaly even if the oil is there, It will require years to build oil facilities, and who's gonna supply materials ? who's money ?