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September 25, 2013, 04:46:53 AM
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I promise Never to buy anything Again from BFL!! DO YOU  Huh

Lets see how many Promises we can get Huh



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September 25, 2013, 04:57:02 AM
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+1

I still have night mares of Dave telling me "2 more weeks"... I think that was a planned strategy.. If they would have told me in January that it would be more than a month, I would have asked for a refund, but I kept getting "2 more weeks". Ive waited this long, whats two more weeks, right? The whole thing just makes me sick and the potential profits that were lost are staggering... Those that weren't on the "favorite" list, (I think we all know who a few of them are) got totally screwed. Im surprised I haven't seen more "lets sue bfl" threads. Most of the ones i've seen don't seem to be serious. you would think that a class action suit is coming their way..

They will still get a lot of unsuspecting customers because they don't know the whole story, and even if they do, they will rationalize it as it not being as bad as it was. Maybe we should get donations and put together a anti-bfl campaign. Not defame them, but to just tell the truth..  That line, "honest Abe, we will deliver in October"  oh lord, all I can do is laugh now..
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September 25, 2013, 05:01:04 AM
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won't even redeem my chip credits

and I'm a lucky one that may...just...make back my investment

too many lies, too much rudeness, no, never again

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September 25, 2013, 06:45:13 AM
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hope too many promises came in few days here for this cause

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September 25, 2013, 06:46:20 AM
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September 25, 2013, 06:52:02 AM
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I promise Never to buy anything Again from BFL!! DO YOU  Huh

Lets see how many Promises we can get Huh

is this the same promise that BFL make that what you purchase is not a final product.. but a position in a waiting list?

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September 25, 2013, 08:59:23 AM
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I promise Never to buy anything Again from BFL!! DO YOU  Huh

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is this the same promise that BFL make that what you purchase is not a final product.. but a position in a waiting list?

... where the product may have half the advertised spec, and must be delivered (in two more weeks™) at double the quantity, and not at the same time, to match your ordered hashrate.

Butterfly Labs has a different interpretation of the FTC Mail Order Rule.  You do not have a refund option with the BFL Monarch no matter how late they ship.
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September 25, 2013, 06:25:48 PM
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Thanks for your comments and Promises  Cool

Lets show BFL WHY Customer Service should be Priority and breaking promises after promises will allow BFL customer to take legal actions .
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September 25, 2013, 10:14:41 PM
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You can count me in for a class action lawsuit... What adds insult to injury, they shipped my last (thank god) order the slowest way possible. It should have been sent fedex overnight but it was shipped ground.. I lost a lot of coins, but they dont even respond to emails or phone calls.
So, since I have all of my equipment in, Im all for a class action lawsuit.. We need to do it fast before they file bankruptcy and move their assets.. They are convicted criminals for hells sakes, they have a running plan in mind, im sure.. Also, Its pretty obvious that they were mining when the shortboards came in, if not before.. think about it, If you had thousands of asic chips sitting around, wouldnt you get them going and basically print money? To think that they didn't is not logical. They can come here all day long and say that they didn't mine, but it doesn't make sense that they didn't.. My money is on that they mined off site, just in case visitors came a calling.. but Im sure some machines were hashing away in march when the dificulty was well below 10m. a single back then made them tens of thousands a month..I dont even want to figure out how much a mini rig was making back then. Its probably in the hundreds of thousands since they probably had more than one machine going.

We need to get organized and actually do something.. Im all for not sitting around.. lets sue these guys.. I have plenty of email correspondence that they promised that they would be delivering by october, I even have a recorded phone call that basically says the same.... Im sure if we pooled our resources and evidence, we will win. But time is of the essence.. We need to get going on this now..... ANyone interested?  

(Ill never forget one of my first converstions with jody, she told me how they now have credibility since they were shipping the fpga's and that they will over deliver and under promise)

We cant let these guys just get away with this... If we pool our resources, Im sure we could put up a good fight...
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September 26, 2013, 12:15:57 AM
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Get the pitchforks!  Get the torches!  To the gates, fellows!  To the gates!

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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September 26, 2013, 12:36:57 AM
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Get the pitchforks!  Get the torches!  To the gates, fellows!  To the gates!


I'm glad you think this is funny.  People who ordered in January or February will NEVER see ROI on their purchase now.

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September 26, 2013, 12:45:14 AM
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Get the pitchforks!  Get the torches!  To the gates, fellows!  To the gates!

Don't forget your hats!


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September 26, 2013, 12:53:25 AM
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Get the pitchforks!  Get the torches!  To the gates, fellows!  To the gates!


What a cunt.

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September 26, 2013, 02:07:01 AM
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Get the pitchforks!  Get the torches!  To the gates, fellows!  To the gates!


 Cool  Grin what did I tell ya All Smiley 100% sure BFL WILL READ!
I guess he is promising to never buy anything else from his own company to- hahaha - did u get Ur jalapeño a year later Inaba:?)

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September 26, 2013, 02:19:15 AM
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Get the pitchforks!  Get the torches!  To the gates, fellows!  To the gates!


Wow, I cant believe it!!! You just changed my mind, I think ill go ahead and order a few monarchs, cant wait til they get here in January... Nahhh,  I think ill wait until someone has a working product before i pay tens of thousands of dollars this time... I think its kind of ironic that I thought BFL was the only legit asic producer last year and I really thought that asicminer was the company to stay away from.. boy, did I miss that one by a million miles.......

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September 26, 2013, 08:05:33 AM
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I'll spare you my hindsight, although I did stay away from BFL because of their history...

You should definitely sue them. They totaly deserve it for their attitude alone.

There's some things you should know:

1. It's called a class action or a class suit. The "class action lawsuit" nonsense that you hear on the TV all the time is like saying "frozen ice". Shit like this makes no difference in real life, but it's vital when dealing with legal stuff. The term itself is not important, but you need the correct mindset that cares about things like this. A sloppy lawsuit will only cost you time and money.

2. Focus on stuff you can prove. Broken promises, delays, etc... If you can't prove that they were using your equipment to mine instead of shipping it to you, don't even mention it in court. They will score points if you present unprovable claims.

3. It's your responsibility to prove their guilt, responsibility, mal intet, etc...

4. Be honest. Don't bullshit a bullshitter! Make it absolutely clear that your sole motivation was greed. Greed fueled by their false promises. Make it clear you would have cut you losses earlier had they been even lightyears close to honest about actual delivery dates. Greed is what keeps the economy going. Especialy the Bitcoin economy.

5. Get some people that did the FPGA trade-in onboad of the class suit. They were the ones that were royaly "attached to another object by an inclined plane, wrapped helically around an axis". They WERE making decent money and got convinced to trade it in for sometnig that will never make ROI.

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September 26, 2013, 11:58:48 AM
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Get the pitchforks!  Get the torches!  To the gates, fellows!  To the gates!


By the way, let's give the newbies reading this thread and wondering what the hell's going on a little context. The author of the above snark, Inaba, is BFL's public relations guy. That should tell you all you need to know about the level of professionalism, integrity and good judgement of the key BFL personnel. But if you need a little more help, have a quick search around the forum (and the rest of the web) on 'Sonny Vleisides'. (That's not this guy, this one's Josh Zerlan. But hey google him too if you like)



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September 26, 2013, 01:52:51 PM
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Angry Angry Angry
I promise Never to buy anything Again from BFL!! DO YOU  Huh

Lets see how many Promises we can get Huh




I dont know, they have a new pretty sweet looking deal: Wink
http://www.butterflylabs.com/monarch/
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September 26, 2013, 02:54:26 PM
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September 26, 2013, 03:35:54 PM
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Never again will I believe "in 2 weeks".

I would buy if they shipped in 1 week though...

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