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February 25, 2018, 12:35:42 PM
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This is how I discovered it... I made a post yesterday on the meta section thought to provide some value for the forum. I get it, this was very poor of me. I was fucked up and out of my fucking mind or why the hell I would do that? Click here for the post.

Reply got so far...

https://prnt.sc/ijgmdk (I have the humour it's a joke, thanks, no heart feeling)
https://prnt.sc/ijgmzv (good one, thanks for the advice, appreciate it)
https://prnt.sc/ijgnfu (sorry if i ruined it, i am a dumb ass, please excuse me, yeah right!)
https://prnt.sc/ijgnxz (I guess you need a break as well)
https://prnt.sc/ijgozz (looks like I am sanctimonious prig  Shocked )
https://prnt.sc/ijgp8e (  Roll Eyes )
Then i received this comment ( Click here to read the full comment not just screenshot like above ) from nullius. I was surprised first to see the loooonggg essay then I read it full. well-done by the way for this long post and thank you for the changed title for me in your local language I guess. I figured out from google that it means this https://prnt.sc/ijgs65

I am not sure if this was really necessary or not. I started researching the account and found a lot of members really respect the account holder. I started to take the blame to myself thinking well, yeah leave it, I made a mistake writing the post at the first place. Then I saw this reply ( https://prnt.sc/ijgt6u ) from Alia

Now this struck me... Jr. Member, Activity: 42, Merit: 105, Posts: 350!!!

No doubt this account holder is giving everything for this forum. Account created on January 28, 2018. Not even one month and the account already made 350 post and earned 105 merit! Low ranked member like me, this account is an ideal account to research.

These are the merit source for this account

theymos11time
EcuaMobi11time
favours51time
iluvbitcoins11time
The Pharmacist42times
OgNasty11time
Rmcdermott92751time
Foxpup106times
TMAN162times
Tesorex21time
LoyceV33times
Hatcher61times
midvoc11time
Cyrus 21times
nullius2321times
pugman11time
suchmoon11time
finaleshot201611time
mjglqw11time
zikabra11time
aTriz11time
Oceat21time
crwth11time
Hydrogen11time
PoolMinor81time
SM2303199711time
mostkey21time
xIIImaL11time


So without any doubt I wanted to see the special connection with nullius, TMAN, Foxpup, PoolMinor, Hatcher, favours, Rmcdermott927 and The Pharmacist for alia since they have given 23, 16, 10, 8, 6, 5, 5, 4 sMerits respectively.

I was more interested to see whats going on with nullius, TMAN, Foxpup since they have given the sMerits 21, 2 and 6 times respectively (I ignored 3 times from LoyceV and 2 times from The Pharmacist coz it's too much to do).

I found nothing with TMAN, Foxpup but for nullius, this is what alia sent...
nullius205times

So when I found alia sent 20 sMerits to nullius and in return alia received 23 merits from nullius, I wanted to see the detail posts on those alia received merits from nullius. I categories them into 3 category.

Category 1: Perhaps worth getting merit
1 Merit for a good humorous post https://prnt.sc/ijfxuw
1 Merit for another good post https://prnt.sc/ijfyam
1 Merit for another may be good reply https://prnt.sc/ijfz9e
1 Merit for really good writing https://prnt.sc/ijfznh
1 Merit for another humorous reply https://prnt.sc/ijg32s
1 Merit for an average reply https://prnt.sc/ijg475
1 Merit (may be) for another average reply https://prnt.sc/ijg7v4
1 Merit for a really well done reply https://prnt.sc/ijg9r8
1 Merit may be a good reply https://prnt.sc/ijga7y ( Wait!!! Is this looking odd? https://prnt.sc/ijgbjo )
1 Merit for a good post (no doubt) https://prnt.sc/ijgc1i
1 Merit for an average reply https://prnt.sc/ijge98


Category 2: Questioned!!!
1 Merit for writing only one line! https://prnt.sc/ijfwkj
1 Merit for writing another line! https://prnt.sc/ijfypm
1 Merit for writing another few lines https://prnt.sc/ijg1qi
                          (The original post was alia's though but do you see merit from TMAN https://prnt.sc/ijg19c ? 6+10=16 merit)
2 Merit for another one line reply! https://prnt.sc/ijg4o8 By the way it was a reply of "nullius" post  Roll Eyes
2 Merit for another one line reply! https://prnt.sc/ijg5g1 I guess they already had so juicy conversation before this one line reply.
1 Merit, really nice post "Watch me gamble with your money, (possibly) naked!" (  Grin !!) https://prnt.sc/ijg719  
1 Merit for another one line reply! https://prnt.sc/ijg8ed Please give me a break
1 Merit again do doubt it raise question https://prnt.sc/ijg93h Am i missing something? See the thread title  Cheesy
1 Merit again for one line reply https://prnt.sc/ijgels please i really really need a break!  Angry



Category 3: Could not find the post so we really don't know what was there
1 Merit for a deleted post https://prnt.sc/ijg3oj


I guess I know the secret: On February 16, 2018, 10:57:08 PM ( https://prnt.sc/ijgg6i ) nullius first encountered alia's this post https://prnt.sc/ijfxuw
the post was a very good humorous post which immediately made nullius a fan of alia's. Then on top of it when alia send 16 merits ( https://prnt.sc/ijgfqn ) to nullius on the same day just in few mins difference (February 16, 2018, 11:00:10 PM) then no doubt that nullius has a good biased mind for alia.

This is what I learnt now after carefully watching alia's account. No doubt alia is doing a great job. The account holder knows his/her shit so account like this will keep receiving more merits.

Keep good relationship with higher ranked members, try your best to post some quality posts and always remember those higher ranked members, sMerits will come on your way.

PS: I guess i should forget about getting sMerits and thinking about getting ban from this forum after publishing this post  Grin
This post surely will upset some of the higher ranked members.

The merit system needs to be improved or the forum will suffer because of the biased activities of higher ranked members those have enormous amount of sMerits to favour others

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So I changed the title "Thin (!!!) strategy to earn more Merit" to "Thin (!) strategy to earn more Merit - Drama Queen (aka alia) busted Finally!!!"

I have spend almost last 24 hours to read only two posts on the forum. One about alia and another one about aTriz. Here I am thinking I have now a proven point to claim that I was right at the time of writing the original post.

After reading both posts above, it's obvious that alia was literally fooling everyone even, theymos. So in my OP if you get an impression about nullius giving alia merits for her (his, their or whatever doesn't even matter) so called relevant and high quality posts then it's obvious that nullius was just a victim like other especially aTriz.

The strategy from alia was really very simple. She (he, they etc) simply targeted few highly reputable members like aTriz, Lauda, TMAN, Foxpup and others, not to mention nullius, made a circle around them and started taking benefit of the human weakness (Trust).

Great job scam_detector  Grin

PS: I was in vacation since last 3rd March so I really do not have much update about the forum. I will move my focus after posting this thread.

If we carefully give sMerits each others and do not abuse it (some ideas are here) then merit system is really doing great work.

PS: Any idea how to remove a red trust since alia sent me a red trust without any actual evidence whatsoever.

I could not stand the lies against me anymore. I can not prove them wrong too. It's better I live in peace.
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PS: I guess i should forget about getting sMerits and thinking about getting ban from this forum after publishing this post  Grin
This post surely will upset some of the higher ranked members.

The merit system needs to be improved or the forum will suffer because of the biased activities of higher ranked members those have enormous amount of sMerits to favour others



Not sure about the higher ups, but since the first link is to COINHIVE I ain't to happy with you!  (I did not click through)

I can't do anything other than report to moderator, but I wish I could!!!!!!!!!!

And your receiving of 4 points of merit, was for begging???:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2727730.msg27917341#msg27917341

Feel free to send me some merit, if you like this post  Cheesy





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February 25, 2018, 01:13:11 PM
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Nice analysis!

1. Believe it or not, it is actually possible for a one-sentence post to be meritorious. I understand that you are not capable of such posts - maybe one day.

2. Your Coinhive link is a bit fucked up, it made my laptop heat up a lot. Please remove that, as it is 100x more unethical than what you accuse me of doing.

3. nullius is hardly a "higher ranked" member, he's super new to the forum, as am I.

4. Humans are subjective creatures - I am not a merit source, I am a person, so if I like a post and find it to be informative/well-written, I will award it merit. I find most of nullius's posts to be both informative and well-written; a rarity on this forum.

5. nullius and I are both open haters of people who exchange merit for favours, money. etc. - I have been offered merit points for favours/money multiple times, and I have declined every time.

nullius puts a great deal of time and effort into his posts, and when they're written about me, you can understand why I'd want to give him merit. People like him, who provide posts filled with content and backed with evidence, are the reason that I come here. It's not just me - he's in the list of top merit receivers for a reason. I suggest you start making quality posts (and stop trying to make money from link shorteners), and then you'll understand.

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February 25, 2018, 01:15:04 PM
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Not sure about the higher ups, but since the first link is to COINHIVE I ain't to happy with you!  (I did not click through)

- sorry my bad, just removed it.

And your receiving of 4 points of merit, was for begging???:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2727730.msg27917341#msg27917341

Feel free to send me some merit, if you like this post  Cheesy

- Yes sir I guess I did! This is how merit system is working, begging and pleasing others etc etc

I could not stand the lies against me anymore. I can not prove them wrong too. It's better I live in peace.
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Not sure about the higher ups, but since the first link is to COINHIVE I ain't to happy with you!  (I did not click through)

- sorry my bad, just removed it.

And your receiving of 4 points of merit, was for begging???:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2727730.msg27917341#msg27917341

Feel free to send me some merit, if you like this post  Cheesy

- Yes sir I guess I did! This is how merit system is working, begging and pleasing others etc etc

No, if you think begging is the way to receive merit, then you have completely misunderstood its point.

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February 25, 2018, 01:30:18 PM
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1. Believe it or not, it is actually possible for a one-sentence post to be meritorious. I understand that you are not capable of such posts - maybe one day.
- I believe you. Sometimes one-word could be meritorious if that hits the cause. By the way how come you say I am not capable of such posts LOL. Ain't trying to prove too much?

2. Your Coinhive link is a bit fucked up, it made my laptop heat up a lot. Please remove that, as it is 100x more unethical than what you accuse me of doing.
-Apology and removed it already. So you are saying you are doing unethical stuffs? Don't get me wrong, you are not doing anything unethical you are just taking the benefit of the system in a smart way.

3. nullius is hardly a "higher ranked" member, he's super new to the forum, as am I.
-Yes he is. He is a good essay writer too. Somehow in this forum people think if you are capable of writing a long essay then you are a good writer and you deserve merits.

4. Humans are subjective creatures - I am not a merit source, I am a person, so if I like a post and find it to be informative/well-written, I will award it merit. I find most of nullius's posts to be both informative and well-written; a rarity on this forum.
- I have nothing to say for this 16 merits you sent https://prnt.sc/ijhtz4 (16! come on!! Didn't I say that somehow in this forum people think if you are capable of writing long essay then you are a good writer)

I suggest you start making quality posts (and stop trying to make money from link shorteners), and then you'll understand.
- Thank you for the advice I hope you will take some times and try to read some of my past posts. Again my apology for the link shortening which I already removed.

I could not stand the lies against me anymore. I can not prove them wrong too. It's better I live in peace.
So, I am willingly locking mdayonliner. Thank you BitcoinTalk. Be addictive, be a Bitcoiner.
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February 25, 2018, 01:33:44 PM
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- Yes sir I guess I did! This is how merit system is working, begging and pleasing others etc etc

No, if you think begging is the way to receive merit, then you have completely misunderstood its point.
- I guess you misjudged my humour  Grin I was teasing you when I said so. I completely understand why the merit system introduced at the first place and I am doing my best to play according to the game.

I could not stand the lies against me anymore. I can not prove them wrong too. It's better I live in peace.
So, I am willingly locking mdayonliner. Thank you BitcoinTalk. Be addictive, be a Bitcoiner.
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1. Believe it or not, it is actually possible for a one-sentence post to be meritorious. I understand that you are not capable of such posts - maybe one day.
- I believe you. Sometimes one-word could be meritorious if that hits the cause. By the way how come you say I am not capable of such posts LOL. Ain't trying to prove too much?

2. Your Coinhive link is a bit fucked up, it made my laptop heat up a lot. Please remove that, as it is 100x more unethical than what you accuse me of doing.
-Apology and removed it already. So you are saying you are doing unethical stuffs? Don't get me wrong, you are not doing anything unethical you are just taking the benefit of the system in a smart way.

3. nullius is hardly a "higher ranked" member, he's super new to the forum, as am I.
-Yes he is. He is a good essay writer too. Somehow in this forum people think if you are capable of writing a long essay then you are a good writer and you deserve merits.

4. Humans are subjective creatures - I am not a merit source, I am a person, so if I like a post and find it to be informative/well-written, I will award it merit. I find most of nullius's posts to be both informative and well-written; a rarity on this forum.
- I have nothing to say for this 16 merits you sent https://prnt.sc/ijhtz4 (16! come on!! Didn't I say that somehow in this forum people think if you are capable of writing long essay then you are a good writer)

I suggest you start making quality posts (and stop trying to make money from link shorteners), and then you'll understand.
- Thank you for the advice I hope you will take some times and try to read some of my past posts. Again my apology for the link shortening which I already removed.

He doesn't just write essays, he writes good essays. Find any reasonable member who thinks his essays are not good, and I'll owe you a BJ.

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Hey man, that's extraordinary evidence right there!

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Hey man, that's extraordinary evidence right there!
oh sheet! are you guys somewhat related in real life? or alia = nullius?! come on tell the truth!

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Not sure about the higher ups, but since the first link is to COINHIVE I ain't to happy with you!  (I did not click through)

- sorry my bad, just removed it.

And your receiving of 4 points of merit, was for begging???:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2727730.msg27917341#msg27917341

Feel free to send me some merit, if you like this post  Cheesy

- Yes sir I guess I did! This is how merit system is working, begging and pleasing others etc etc



just documenting that you admitted to attempting to pass a virus, and begging for merit.......

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Extra ordinary finding!!!
I hope it's not what I am thinking  Grin
However this is a great coincidence  Shocked

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- Yes sir I guess I did! This is how merit system is working, begging and pleasing others etc etc

just documenting that you admitted to attempted to pass a virus, and begging for merit.......
- I already explained it in here. I think you missed it.

Not sure about the higher ups, but since the first link is to COINHIVE I ain't to happy with you!  (I did not click through)

just documenting that you admitted to attempted to pass a virus, and begging for merit.......
- Not virus to be honest. It was coinhive a kind of link shortener (like google URL shortener) which helps to min XMR from the shorted link when user visits your targeted link. I already said I removed it.

I could not stand the lies against me anymore. I can not prove them wrong too. It's better I live in peace.
So, I am willingly locking mdayonliner. Thank you BitcoinTalk. Be addictive, be a Bitcoiner.
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Hey man, that's extraordinary evidence right there!
oh sheet! are you guys somewhat related in real life? or alia = nullius?! come on tell the truth!

If I had that amount of cryptographic knowledge, I'd be making a hundred mil' off an ICO easy, not busting my ass off in college xD

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February 25, 2018, 02:32:42 PM
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I was more interested to see whats going on with nullius, TMAN, Foxpup since they have given the sMerits 21, 2 and 6 times respectively (I ignored 3 times from LoyceV and 2 times from The Pharmacist coz it's too much to do).
I'll do it, if you ignore me Cheesy
I just like seeing a Newbie who posts decent posts. I've reported many bad posts and got many accounts banned, it's very nice to find new users who's posts are worth reading. I give Merit to reward them and improve the forum at the same time.

Category 2: Questioned!!!
1 Merit for writing only one line!
A long post doesn't mean it's a good post.

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the post was a very good humorous post which immediately made nullius a fan of alia's. Then on top of it when alia send 16 merits ( https://prnt.sc/ijgfqn ) to nullius on the same day just in few mins difference (February 16, 2018, 11:00:10 PM) then no doubt that nullius has a good biased mind for alia.
I think you're overthinking this. To receive Merit, you need two things: quality posts, and someone with sMerit has to read your posts. Both nullius and alia have good posts, they both have sMerit to give, and they're reading each other's posts because they like reading them.

He doesn't just write essays, he writes good essays. Find any reasonable member who thinks his essays are not good, and I'll owe you a BJ.
When nullius is really going at it, his posts are so good they become harder to understand for non-native English speakers like myself. I keep looking up words I've never seen before!
That's BlackJack, right?

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I'll do it, if you ignore me Cheesy
I just like seeing a Newbie who posts decent posts. I've reported many bad posts and got many accounts banned, it's very nice to find new users who's posts are worth reading. I give Merit to reward them and improve the forum at the same time.

My bad I ignored you  Grin

I have no problem of someone giving and receiving merits certainly merits and sMerits are for giving and receiving. The sole purpose of this merit system is to credit the content creator and help the community to build stronger. Since we have limited merit source and infinite number of lower ranked members, it's really a luxury to send total of 23 merits 21 times to only one person.

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Category 2: Questioned!!!
1 Merit for writing only one line!
A long post doesn't mean it's a good post.
- Yes I know it obviously.

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the post was a very good humorous post which immediately made nullius a fan of alia's. Then on top of it when alia send 16 merits ( https://prnt.sc/ijgfqn ) to nullius on the same day just in few mins difference (February 16, 2018, 11:00:10 PM) then no doubt that nullius has a good biased mind for alia.
I think you're overthinking this. To receive Merit, you need two things: quality posts, and someone with sMerit has to read your posts. Both nullius and alia have good posts, they both have sMerit to give, and they're reading each other's posts because they like reading them.
-I guess I need to rephrase it then ...  Grin
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Keep good relationship with someone has sMerit and post quality.


I guess for two persons, giving merits should have a limit and also receiving merits should have a limit or the same two user can give and receive merits from each others for infinite times. Someone with having a bad intention can easily take this advantage.

I also think sending sMerit in one transaction (one go i mean) should have a limit. I saw people sent 50 sMerits. This is just too much. May be 1 or 2 sMerit should be good for a post no matter if thats even the worlds  best content.

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That's BlackJack, right?
-Yes it is  Tongue The user writes really too long and has super energy.

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So, I am willingly locking mdayonliner. Thank you BitcoinTalk. Be addictive, be a Bitcoiner.
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I also think sending sMerit in one transaction should have a limit. I saw people sent 50 sMerits. This is just too much. May be 1 or 2 sMerit should be good for a post no matter if thats even the worlds  best content.
50 is the limit per user per month. You can send 50 in one piece or smaller chunks.
At the moment 50 Merits are mainly used by people abusing the merit system, but that will end once everybody runs out of free merit.

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I found nothing with TMAN, Foxpup
Of course not. I don't play favourites. I'm not really sure what you expected to find, but you should note that everyone who sent merit to alia more than once is on the list of top 50 merit senders, so it's simply a case of someone receiving more merits from people who send more merits, which isn't even a conclusion worth stating. I also doubt you'll get very far by sucking up to the top merit senders (I can tell you it won't get you anywhere with me).

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February 25, 2018, 03:30:22 PM
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- Yes sir I guess I did! This is how merit system is working, begging and pleasing others etc etc

Did you just call yourself a merit whore?

3. nullius is hardly a "higher ranked" member, he's super new to the forum, as am I.
-Yes he is. He is a good essay writer too. Somehow in this forum people think if you are capable of writing a long essay then you are a good writer and you deserve merits.
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Find one post that was a good essay and was merited but shouldn't be.

50 is the limit per user per month. You can send 50 in one piece or smaller chunks.
At the moment 50 Merits are mainly used by people abusing the merit system, but that will end once everybody runs out of free merit.

Actually, I don't mind seeing 50 merits to be given (merit stats). It gives me something to do, and that's catching merit system abusers.  Grin
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