OGNASTY’S LEGENDARY BITCOIN ESCROW SERVICE (More than 19K BTC transferred!)

[Lauda]

He even refuses to send a screen shot of the conversation but will only provide some poorly HACKED up "quoted" text requesting a refund.

How about you post proof of your own allegations first? If you *truly think* that you have a valid case, then you could also start a separate thread in this section.

[egdevilboy2]

Yeah just a simple screen shot of the conversation of me requesting a refund is all I ask. If you can prove this than my point is null and void.

What does this rule mean - signature required for any refund request to a different address?

It's funny because I woke up at 4am and found this convo about this refund and immediately contacted OGNasty who stated it's 2 am there and it's not his problem. At this time those messages were not in my outbox just quoted fromOgNasty. 2 hours later my account password and email is changed and of course he won't provide the screen shot.

Maybe a mod could take a look at the screen shot of the conversation? Also maybe take a look at the IPs that accessed my account because if OGNasty is telling the truth than this site has a major security flaw and someone is using it and OGNasty to take advantage of it.

 
All I want is the screen shot of me saying "send me a refund to this address". He will not provide because it did not happen. Now he refuses to communicate with me aside from calling me a scammer and saying good luck you're going to need it.

[egdevilboy2]

He even refuses to send a screen shot of the conversation but will only provide some poorly HACKED up "quoted" text requesting a refund.

How about you post proof of your own allegations first? If you *truly think* that you have a valid case, then you could also start a separate thread in this section.

So you can see my conversations? awesome, because I can't. My account password has been changed. Maybe you could forward me the scammers username? I'm sure I'll get equally as far with him as I am with you in regards to this imaginary conversation you had with me about my money.

[OgNasty]

Maybe a mod could take a look at the screen shot of the conversation? Also maybe take a look at the IPs that accessed my account because if OGNasty is telling the truth than this site has a major security flaw and someone is using it and OGNasty to take advantage of it.

All I want is the screen shot of me saying "send me a refund to this address". He will not provide because it did not happen. Now he refuses to communicate with me aside from calling me a scammer and saying good luck you're going to need it.

I forwarded the screenshot to the account I was in communication with.  If you recover your account, you will see it in there waiting for you. 

You're blaming me for you not keeping your account secure.  On top of that, I literally told you this would happen and not to send BTC and you ignored me. 

Now that you were scammed you attack the one person who warned you repeatedly not to engage in the deal and not the seller who was sending you phishing links?  Why not post a scam accusation showing the phishing links you were sent?  Did you fall for them and give away your login info?  Why attack the escrow agent who told you not to do the deal?  Why did the scammer who took over your account only lock you out hours later after I refused the extortion attempts? 

[TMAN]

Whoop Whoop - somewhere else to bleet about OG... Guys before you use this service be aware he self escrowed a bet, the bet went sour and he sided with himself, he didnt take the other options..

Find a mediator
Ask the community
Void the bet
and as suggested by another forum member, give the funds to charity - I backed this one...

this thread for the bet.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1945817.120
this for the public poll
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946142.0
this for the scam accusation
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946305.0

just keeping all you nasty fans informed..

please note - in the original bet thread, another trusted member was asked to escrow the bet and accepted, then he realized what a cluster fuck was happening with OG involved and myself hammering posts like a crazed loon and he decided it wasn't for him - he then sent the funds I had sent straight back to me.. those are the actions of a decent escrow - not this Dickhead - and before anyone thinks I want the money back 1) check my trust I don't need it 2) I want the money to go to charity.

this isn't a moany thread that I lost - this is information about how this punk operates

[OgNasty]

Just to keep everyone informed.  There have been 2 complaints regarding my escrow in the last couple days.  Both involved users trying to force me to be an escrow agent by sending me funds without my consent when I told them they were going to lose their money and both led to scam accusation threads.  It is odd because in 6 years nobody had ever tried to force me to accept escrow, but then it happens twice one after another.  Coincidences are funny like that.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1941062.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946305.0

I urge people to read over the recent posts of TMAN here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=98986;sa=showPosts

If anyone needs any clarification, please feel free to PM me.  I do not feel his negative trust rating on me is deserved and I don't think anyone who looks into the situation would either.

[TMAN]

Just to keep everyone informed.  There have been 2 complaints regarding my escrow in the last couple days.  Both involved users trying to force me to be an escrow agent by sending me funds without my consent when I told them they were going to lose their money and both led to scam accusation threads.  It is odd because in 6 years nobody had ever tried to force me to accept escrow, but then it happens twice one after another.  Coincidences are funny like that.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1941062.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946305.0

I urge people to read over the recent posts of TMAN here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=98986;sa=showPosts

If anyone needs any clarification, please feel free to PM me.  I do not feel his negative trust rating on me is deserved and I don't think anyone who looks into the situation would either.

If that was the case then why not send the funds back to me? because you are above any rules you believe other people should abide by? you would go ballistic if another member self escrowed a bet.. for this reason, you will not back down....

you are a bad person and very untrustworthy.. anyone checking this out please see my trust - I have dealt with 10's no hundreds of thousands of $ on this forum and the only issue I have is with a measly .2BTC bet with this punk...

you say twice in a week, maybe you are turning bad??

[OgNasty]

If that was the case then why not send the funds back to me?

You paid me to immediately take time out of my day, access my collection, and get a specific picture of the holograms on my coins or "otherwise his rep is destroyed" all because you thought you could prove I was lying about my Casascius collection to hurt my reputation.  Well, I wasn't lying and I proved it.

If you were scammed, you scammed yourself.

[TMAN]

If that was the case then why not send the funds back to me?

You paid me to immediately take time out of my day, access my collection, and get a specific picture of the holograms on my coins or "otherwise his rep is destroyed" all because you thought you could prove I was lying about my Casascius collection to hurt my reputation.  Well, I wasn't lying and I proved it.

If you were scammed, you scammed yourself.

noo.. you are refusing to mediate an issue... this is what I have a problem with. you are abusing the trust members put in you - if you werent you would mediate, or leave to members to decide. if you did that and the forum chose to side with you I would eat my words and apologize, but you are not doing that you are being a dickhead.. so I will continue to spread the word..

[Patatas]

Whoop Whoop - somewhere else to bleet about OG... Guys before you use this service be aware he self escrowed a bet, the bet went sour and he sided with himself, he didnt take the other options..

Well,the community (if you consider me a part of it) doesn't really care about your personal problems with him.As long as his escrow service is concerned,his reputation holds more credibility than yours at the moment (wait,do I even know you ?  ).Honestly,not taking someone seriously who insists on using terms like "scum" "scam" to tarnish the reputation of a trusted entity.
Moreover,your personal issues with him aren't good enough to convince the community to not use his escrow service.

[TMAN]

Whoop Whoop - somewhere else to bleet about OG... Guys before you use this service be aware he self escrowed a bet, the bet went sour and he sided with himself, he didnt take the other options..

Well,the community (if you consider me a part of it) doesn't really care about your personal problems with him.As long as his escrow service is concerned,his reputation holds more credibility than yours at the moment (wait,do I even know you ?  ).Honestly,not taking someone seriously who insists on using terms like "scum" "scam" to tarnish the reputation of a trusted entity.
Moreover,your personal issues with him aren't good enough to convince the community to not use his escrow service.

Ok.. who are you? what trades have you completed on this forum?

did you read through the threads? I guess not.. so you make an uneducated opinion based on how much you love OG.. people who turn sour do so quite quickly, and the only way they are found out is when trusted members call them out..

[Quickseller]

If I were OgNasty, I would stop responding to TMAN in this thread, especially unless and until he can present an additional point.

If someone were to send btc to an escrow who has a different understanding of the terms of the trade than the senders understanding, then the escrows understanding will prevail unless both parties consent to changes to the terms. From what I can tell, OgNasty complied with the terms of his understanding of the bet as of when the btc was sent.

TMAN obviously knew that OgNasty was a party to the trade/bet as of when he sent the btc, so he really cannot claim "self escrow" as he is.

[TMAN]

If I were OgNasty, I would stop responding to TMAN in this thread, especially unless and until he can present an additional point.

If someone were to send btc to an escrow who has a different understanding of the terms of the trade than the senders understanding, then the escrows understanding will prevail unless both parties consent to changes to the terms. From what I can tell, OgNasty complied with the terms of his understanding of the bet as of when the btc was sent.

TMAN obviously knew that OgNasty was a party to the trade/bet as of when he sent the btc, so he really cannot claim "self escrow" as he is.

This whole thing is about integrity a quality both you and OG do not have, therefore neither of you deserve the right to be an escrow!

[Timelord2067]

... (snip)

Now I'm out $1600 plus escrow fee and have an "escrow agent" who wants me to stop contacting him and refuses to offer any assistance. AWESOME!

Addressing the above extortion attempt...

... (snip)

I've had a cursory glance over Og's wallet address that he uses here: https://blockchain.info/address/168WXhArv7Fasqvi2xm5MQMfLhG18jifMe

The below address is the only address I will ever ask you to send BTC to.  If asked to send to a different address, you are dealing with a scammer. 

168WXhArv7Fasqvi2xm5MQMfLhG18jifMe

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Name: 	egdevilboy2
Posts: 	4
Activity: 	4
Position: 	Newbie
Date Registered: 	30 May 2017, 22:02:24 <---that's  	May 30, 2017, 12:02:24 PM UTC/GMT
Last Active: 	Today at 04:28:54

I can't see going back to the end of April 2017 a transaction that corresponds to $ 1,600 both in and out.

There are some in the vicinity ie $ 1,530 but these are sent by Og first, not received by Og first.

Preev.com says tonight $ 1,600 USD is roughly BTC 0.5641 and given egdevilboy2 was only spawned a week ago, there aren't any transactions close to BTC 0.5641 either in or out in the last week via the wallet address Og uses.

https://blockchain.info/address/1G7MSfF2bNhgy4aPuMu4tx5k96fa9Cd8Hv comes the closest in the time frame, however, it's Og sending first, then Og receiving back, so that can't be the transaction.

It could be the two TX's

https://blockchain.info/tx/916011f0ce85928f9818985ab534a4dbf0c71f649cca118db37dee0d67b6eeb9 2017-05-30 03:13:26 (GMT / UTC) and
https://blockchain.info/tx/0d207e941bfd55b40bdf30c5710aeed7d39a89aadb8318e28f98f71a05d02de4 2017-05-30 07:17:52 (GMT / UTC) but the sending is still nine hours before egdevilboy2's account was spawned.

The thing I like about using blockchain.info is that when you hover over the BitCoin value it shows you what the actual US dollar amount was at the time the TX occurred, not what the price of BTC is now.

If it's not too intrusive can I ask either Og or egdevilboy2 for TX's of their sent to the other?

[DrMsEr]

OG under attack;as it seems. I wish OG will ward off all the negativity that are spreading , i trust him because he is old(community member) and has contributed a lot in bitcoin revolution by his nasty green mining.

[Timelord2067]

OG under attack;as it seems. I wish OG will ward off all the negativity that are spreading , i trust him because he is old(community member) and has contributed a lot in bitcoin revolution by his nasty green mining.

I for one would like to see where the funds went to - find who has the funds that Og refunded and we're one step closer to discovering who hacked the original Egdevilboy that was spawned two weeks earlier (admittedly I hadn't noticed that first time when writing my query above).

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Name: 	Egdevilboy
Posts: 	6
Activity: 	6
Position: 	Newbie
Date Registered: 	15 May 2017, 14:32:12
Last Active: 	31 May 2017, 05:13:02

(this explains the TX's being before egdevilboy2 was spawned...)

[DrMsEr]

OG under attack;as it seems. I wish OG will ward off all the negativity that are spreading , i trust him because he is old(community member) and has contributed a lot in bitcoin revolution by his nasty green mining.

I for one would like to see where the funds went to - find who has the funds that Og refunded and we're one step closer to discovering who hacked the original Egdevilboy that was spawned two weeks earlier (admittedly I hadn't noticed that first time when writing my query above).

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Name: 	Egdevilboy
Posts: 	6
Activity: 	6
Position: 	Newbie
Date Registered: 	15 May 2017, 14:32:12
Last Active: 	31 May 2017, 05:13:02

(this explains the TX's being before egdevilboy2 was spawned...)

Just read the posts of ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1015891 ) and i am shocked that it really happened.
Not what will follow?

[OgNasty]

OG under attack;as it seems. I wish OG will ward off all the negativity that are spreading , i trust him because he is old(community member) and has contributed a lot in bitcoin revolution by his nasty green mining.

It's not a big deal.  You can't please everyone, even if all you do is help people there will be scammers who become upset.  I have no desire to try and silence them though.  My time is better utilized elsewhere.  If it makes them happy to spread lies, I'm glad to help.  You never know what people are going through and I don't want to add any stress to these individuals' lives.  I do want to point out my latest rule as a result of this nonsense though.

RULES:
4. Do not send funds until I have given you permission to do so or they will be refunded to the sending address at your cost.

If you do send funds without my permission, they will be refunded to the sending address minus the tx fee and it is your responsibility to claim them.  

[TMAN]

OG under attack;as it seems. I wish OG will ward off all the negativity that are spreading , i trust him because he is old(community member) and has contributed a lot in bitcoin revolution by his nasty green mining.

It's not a big deal.  You can't please everyone, even if all you do is help people there will be scammers who become upset.  I have no desire to try and silence them though.  My time is better utilized elsewhere.  If it makes them happy to spread lies, I'm glad to help.  You never know what people are going through and I don't want to add any stress to these individuals' lives.  I do want to point out my latest rule as a result of this nonsense though.

RULES:
4. Do not send funds until I have given you permission to do so or they will be refunded to the sending address at your cost.

If you do send funds without my permission, they will be refunded to the sending address minus the tx fee and it is your responsibility to claim them.  

Ohh - so your own T & C said you should of returned the bet? Either that or you self es-crowed the bet.. Which is it dickhead??

[abhinav_thakur01]

19kbtc is really an amount that matters ! I could not get the second part of the third rule. I request you to elaborate that third rule to me. I would be grateful for this.