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September 28, 2013, 02:54:58 PM
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I always though it was kind of weird to be proud of where you were born, as if you had any choice in the matter.

These are my sentiments; to be proud of one's country is to be proud of one's ethnicity or height or social class--in other words, facetious bullshit people adopt when they have nothing else to take pride in for having done nothing their lives thus far.

Or religion... In some ways it might be healthy for small communities. But can be rather destructive too.

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September 28, 2013, 03:06:45 PM
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Or religion... In some ways it might be healthy for small communities. But can be rather destructive too.

I often lump religion and nationalism together, they're very much alike Grin  It seems a recurring theme in our world that any large centralization of power lends to disastrous results.  The crusades did not happen because one or two Christians got together and decided they'd try to take over the holy lands; the religion had a huge following and all had high respects for their various leaders; one Pope decided he needed to conquer and take control over the holy lands, and had the influence to control his followers through manipulation.  The incredible amount of power religion had during this time is unreal, but the blinding patriotism of today is eerily reminiscent; it's like being trapped in this little mental box where your leader cannot be wrong under any circumstance; even if God says "No killing please", the Christians of this time found a way to ignore this, and even if good conscious says "No killing please", patriots find a way to ignore this.  The "greater calling" always beats one's own humanity, it seems.

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September 28, 2013, 10:54:00 PM
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if i actually had some real money, i'd probably do it too.

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