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October 02, 2013, 06:48:02 PM
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I think it would be interesting to see the 3-7 days before in terms of traffic as compared the 3-7 days after the shutdown.  That might give some idea of the number of transactions.  I suspect it wasn't a large percent of them, but who knows for sure.

How big part of bitcoin transactions were SR related?
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October 02, 2013, 06:48:14 PM
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so is it confirmed bitcointalk admins turned him in basically? in regards to gave his gmail account from his forum post?  thats really shitty to do IMO knowing you are risking the safety of many forum users

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October 02, 2013, 06:49:16 PM
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so is it confirmed bitcointalk admins turned him in basically? in regards to gave his gmail account from his forum post?  thats really shitty to do IMO knowing you are risking the safety of many forum users

no. the guy posted it himself. a clever govt agent connected the dots.
nothing different then what something awful people do.
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October 02, 2013, 06:49:21 PM
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"seized 3.2 million worth of bitcoin"

How would that have happened? Why isn't that money stored in safe cold storage?


It's probable he has more squirreled away somewhere.
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October 02, 2013, 06:49:48 PM
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2 months ago there was a mysterious post from theymos IIRC, maybe he was in for questioning...

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October 02, 2013, 06:49:52 PM
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Don't know about that...the alleged "hitman" incident was from March of this year, months before they seized his server.

That changes my opinion somewhat. I'll still reserve judgement until more info comes out. It's not wise to believe the government's story on first hearing, though it does look like his hubris brought him down.

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October 02, 2013, 06:50:27 PM
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so is it confirmed bitcointalk admins turned him in basically? in regards to gave his gmail account from his forum post?  thats really shitty to do IMO knowing you are risking the safety of many forum users

You should probably learn to read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47811.msg568744#msg568744
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October 02, 2013, 06:53:38 PM
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"seized 3.2 million worth of bitcoin"

How would that have happened? Why isn't that money stored in safe cold storage?

Never been to SK, but I think this will turn out to be money in customer accounts / wallets as well as some temporary storage for recent transaction fees.

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October 02, 2013, 06:54:02 PM
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So...

Any word as to why the SR camel is on the background of the seizure notice?
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October 02, 2013, 06:55:59 PM
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I like the quote on page 13 of the criminal complaint (http://www1.icsi.berkeley.edu/~nweaver/UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf).
"Bitcoins are not illegal in and of themselves and have known legitimate uses."

lol
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October 02, 2013, 06:56:19 PM
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another win for fascism and civilization takes another step backwards
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October 02, 2013, 07:00:53 PM
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I like the quote on page 13 of the criminal complaint (http://www1.icsi.berkeley.edu/~nweaver/UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf).
"Bitcoins are not illegal in and of themselves and have known legitimate uses."

lol


The only legitimate use of bitcoin is to buy overpriced junk at online bodega shops.
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October 02, 2013, 07:01:07 PM
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Someone needs to start working on the Hollywood movie of this story. That kind of publicity can only be good for Bitcoin.

I read the affidavit,  definitely looks like something Hollywood can make into a movie.

 
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October 02, 2013, 07:01:29 PM
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I would like to know how they found the server.

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October 02, 2013, 07:01:51 PM
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If they had the hard drive they most likely had the key to operate the site and thus access to that information.

Which also means that his words about hiring a hitman could be forged in order to screw him to the wall harder and remove support from the Bitcoin community.

Yeah I call bullshit on this hitman stuff, he does not look like the sort of person who would put hits out on people. Probably a smear campaign to make him out to be a hardened criminal rather than an business man.

Your basis for calling "bullshit" is he doesn't "look like the sort..."?  Please tell me you're joking.  What should he look like then?  Tony Soprano?  Roll Eyes

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October 02, 2013, 07:02:30 PM
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2 months ago there was a mysterious post from theymos IIRC, maybe he was in for questioning...

Who will ever really know?  Roll Eyes

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October 02, 2013, 07:02:46 PM
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I like the quote on page 13 of the criminal complaint (http://www1.icsi.berkeley.edu/~nweaver/UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf).
"Bitcoins are not illegal in and of themselves and have known legitimate uses."

lol



I guess they intend to sell the seized BTC at auction.  Roll Eyes
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October 02, 2013, 07:03:18 PM
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regarding this hitman case:

I find this hard to believe, why would he communicate this in clear text? I'm damn sure this guy knew how to use PGP

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October 02, 2013, 07:03:52 PM
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I like the quote on page 13 of the criminal complaint (http://www1.icsi.berkeley.edu/~nweaver/UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf).
"Bitcoins are not illegal in and of themselves and have known legitimate uses."

lol



I guess they intend to sell the seized BTC at auction.  Roll Eyes

Likely to be used in more honey pots.

 
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October 02, 2013, 07:03:58 PM
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I like the quote on page 13 of the criminal complaint (http://www1.icsi.berkeley.edu/~nweaver/UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf).
"Bitcoins are not illegal in and of themselves and have known legitimate uses."

lol


I noticed it too, and I liked it.

If you read the full report, you will see that there is no conclusive evidence that the "ordered" murder actually happened, only a suspicion. It may just have been part of an intimidation or something. Not that I'm defending him...

Overall, after reading the report, I must say that I was impressed by the good work of the FBI on this case.
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