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October 07, 2013, 04:35:34 AM
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Well Bitcointalk has been down for a few days, but I kept myself amused by reading all the angry butthurt drug junkie blockchain.info messages who lost all their coins. See, when mummy and daddy told you not to take drugs you should of listened. Anyway I'll get the FBI phone number if you like, so you can call and get your coins back.  Cheesy

In fairness, some non-druggies were using the opportunity to voice their opinions, I'm not talking about those.

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October 07, 2013, 04:53:57 AM
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1F1tAaz5x1HUXrCNLbtMDqcw6o5GNn4xqX should be printed on a t-shirt.

Secondly, what if a poster on said address declared that all his contributions are considered a loan, wouldn't that make it more difficult for the FBI to liquidate the funds IF they do have access to private key?
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October 07, 2013, 04:58:05 AM
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Well Bitcointalk has been down for a few days, but I kept myself amused by reading all the angry butthurt drug junkie blockchain.info messages who lost all their coins. See, when mummy and daddy told you not to take drugs you should of listened. Anyway I'll get the FBI phone number if you like, so you can call and get your coins back.  Cheesy

In fairness, some non-druggies were using the opportunity to voice their opinions, I'm not talking about those.


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October 07, 2013, 05:07:23 AM
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Some Silk Road users sold perfectly legal items, like art and books. I wonder if any of the legitimate users will be asking the FBI for their coins back?
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October 07, 2013, 05:16:32 AM
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Some Silk Road users sold perfectly legal items, like art and books. I wonder if any of the legitimate users will be asking the FBI for their coins back?

even if they did, they wouldn't be released until after the case is settled..  they can get them then

just like any body of evidence

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October 07, 2013, 05:17:30 AM
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Some good quotes there.

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October 07, 2013, 01:09:02 PM
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Some Silk Road users sold perfectly legal items, like art and books. I wonder if any of the legitimate users will be asking the FBI for their coins back?

They could have used more legal sites, such as Bitmit, or the forum Marketplace.
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October 07, 2013, 02:54:47 PM
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Some Silk Road users sold perfectly legal items, like art and books. I wonder if any of the legitimate users will be asking the FBI for their coins back?

They could have used more legal sites, such as Bitmit, or the forum Marketplace.

No.  No.  Legal means legal.  If I sell a hot dog on the same corner as a drug dealer, are my profits subject to confiscation? 
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October 07, 2013, 03:09:30 PM
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No.  No.  Legal means legal.  If I sell a hot dog on the same corner as a drug dealer, are my profits subject to confiscation? 

If there's reasonable suspicion that your profits can be linked to the criminal activity (for example, you might have been a money laundering accomplice of the drug dealer), why not?
In any investigation concerning criminal financial activities, accounts are frozen until it has been determined what funds are criminal gains, and what funds are "innocent" money that just happens to be parked in an account. Like it or not, this is pretty normal and has nothing to do with the fact that in this case bitcoins were confiscated.

In the SR case, determining which sums are legal and must be returned to their owners might be difficult - I somehow doubt that DPR earmarked the funds with a legal/illegal flag.

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October 07, 2013, 03:19:44 PM
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Hahahah that's so awesome. The bitcoin world moves so fast, it's amazing.
What can happen in one month in the "real" world happens every day in this world.
And it's all publicly accessible with one click of your mouse.

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October 07, 2013, 03:54:53 PM
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Some Silk Road users sold perfectly legal items, like art and books. I wonder if any of the legitimate users will be asking the FBI for their coins back?

They could have used more legal sites, such as Bitmit, or the forum Marketplace.

No.  No.  Legal means legal.  If I sell a hot dog on the same corner as a drug dealer, are my profits subject to confiscation? 
But if you sold them at an illegal dog fight pit they might be.

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October 07, 2013, 04:04:20 PM
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Some Silk Road users sold perfectly legal items, like art and books. I wonder if any of the legitimate users will be asking the FBI for their coins back?

They could have used more legal sites, such as Bitmit, or the forum Marketplace.

No.  No.  Legal means legal.  If I sell a hot dog on the same corner as a drug dealer, are my profits subject to confiscation? 
But if you sold them at an illegal dog fight pit they might be.

No. SR was not an "illegal place". Something illegal has been done there, but the website itself was not illegal. If someone is selling a stolen good on ebay, will everything sold there be illegal too? Of course not. They seized all the bitcoins they've found in the accounts, but I'm pretty sure that those belonging to (the few) people selling legal stuff there, could be (legally) returned back to the legit owner once the case is closed.

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October 07, 2013, 04:22:41 PM
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Some Silk Road users sold perfectly legal items, like art and books. I wonder if any of the legitimate users will be asking the FBI for their coins back?

They could have used more legal sites, such as Bitmit, or the forum Marketplace.

No.  No.  Legal means legal.  If I sell a hot dog on the same corner as a drug dealer, are my profits subject to confiscation? 
But if you sold them at an illegal dog fight pit they might be.

No. SR was not an "illegal place". Something illegal has been done there, but the website itself was not illegal. If someone is selling a stolen good on ebay, will everything sold there be illegal too? Of course not. They seized all the bitcoins they've found in the accounts, but I'm pretty sure that those belonging to (the few) people selling legal stuff there, could be (legally) returned back to the legit owner once the case is closed.

Have any of these legit users approached the authority holding the coins in question?

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October 07, 2013, 04:27:56 PM
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Some Silk Road users sold perfectly legal items, like art and books. I wonder if any of the legitimate users will be asking the FBI for their coins back?
How the fuck does one ask something to the FBI? WHO is the FBI? I mean, do we have a phone number dor such cases, would be very funny.
Not that I had ever heard of that site dispite being in the community for over 2 years...
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October 07, 2013, 04:29:47 PM
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Also need to consider the SR users who have bought drugs that are legal in their country.
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October 07, 2013, 04:38:15 PM
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Some Silk Road users sold perfectly legal items, like art and books. I wonder if any of the legitimate users will be asking the FBI for their coins back?
How the fuck does one ask something to the FBI? WHO is the FBI? I mean, do we have a phone number dor such cases, would be very funny.
Not that I had ever heard of that site dispite being in the community for over 2 years...

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October 07, 2013, 05:01:36 PM
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Some Silk Road users sold perfectly legal items, like art and books. I wonder if any of the legitimate users will be asking the FBI for their coins back?

They could have used more legal sites, such as Bitmit, or the forum Marketplace.

No.  No.  Legal means legal.  If I sell a hot dog on the same corner as a drug dealer, are my profits subject to confiscation? 
But if you sold them at an illegal dog fight pit they might be.

No. SR was not an "illegal place". Something illegal has been done there, but the website itself was not illegal. If someone is selling a stolen good on ebay, will everything sold there be illegal too? Of course not. They seized all the bitcoins they've found in the accounts, but I'm pretty sure that those belonging to (the few) people selling legal stuff there, could be (legally) returned back to the legit owner once the case is closed.
I thought that the FBI had deemed SR to be an illegal enterprise.  I can't find any source on that though, so I could be wrong.

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October 07, 2013, 05:11:48 PM
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1F1tAaz5x1HUXrCNLbtMDqcw6o5GNn4xqX should be printed on a t-shirt.

Secondly, what if a poster on said address declared that all his contributions are considered a loan, wouldn't that make it more difficult for the FBI to liquidate the funds IF they do have access to private key?

What if I stated that each post you make in here from this point on constitutes your promise to pay me one bitcoin?

What if I declare myself an ordained POEE priest?

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October 07, 2013, 05:15:21 PM
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Similar to how when Megaupload was seized, all user data was seized as well, regardless if it violated copyright law. It sucks but it's the way it works.

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October 07, 2013, 05:33:05 PM
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Some of these transactions are hilarious. I'm a firm believer in self reliance and self control. If you want to do drugs, go for it. No victim no crime.

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