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October 09, 2013, 10:44:04 PM |
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Attn: Any FBI agent with access to any seized bitcoin private keys,
You can anonymously take those bitcoins and no one will be the wiser. Mix them up a bit and do what you wish with them. It is much easier then stealing drugs or cash out of the evidence room.
Thats exactly what I thought, if they know the private keys, some FBI savvy dude will steal it. Welcome to the jungle! Assuming he does tell the FBI, what would be the incentive of the person he tells to reveal to that to the other FBI agents? He could easily just take the coins and claim DPR refused to tell him.
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October 09, 2013, 11:21:03 PM |
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You'd better hope the Fibbies never crack it because if they successfully crack his, they will get around to cracking your. My $.02. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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October 10, 2013, 01:11:41 AM |
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How is it uncrackable? I heard it may be a brain wallet. What is that?
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October 10, 2013, 01:45:52 AM |
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How is it uncrackable? I heard it may be a brain wallet. What is that?
Its uncrackable because its presumably heavily encrypted and not worth the years of dedicated computing power it would take to crack. A brain wallet is a wallet designed around a simple phrase or collection of words. The idea being you only need to know the phrase and a predictable bitcoin address can be generated using a specific algorithm. It allows the owner to delete any physical copy of the wallet. The only way to get to the coins is to know the phrase. The coins effectively exist nowhere but the mind of the owner, hence the name "brain wallet"
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October 10, 2013, 02:18:23 AM |
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Attn: Any FBI agent with access to any seized bitcoin private keys,
You can anonymously take those bitcoins and no one will be the wiser. Mix them up a bit and do what you wish with them. It is much easier then stealing drugs or cash out of the evidence room.
Thats exactly what I thought, if they know the private keys, some FBI savvy dude will steal it. Welcome to the jungle! Assuming he does tell the FBI, what would be the incentive of the person he tells to reveal to that to the other FBI agents? He could easily just take the coins and claim DPR refused to tell him. So can the feds. He could make a deal to reveal it after they bust him out of jail. They could still kill him after that however. What I thought of when I read this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXgb9jG5HKM&feature=youtu.be&t=1m18sSIX HUNDRED THOUSAND BITCOINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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October 10, 2013, 02:19:55 AM |
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Also, if they're in a wallet that's never been spent from, "cracking" it is next to impossible because the public key isn't even available. I like this explanation of what I mean (from here): Actually, if you are using the default client, they would not only have to break ECDSA (i.e. reverse your public key), but also RIPEMD and SHA256. Your bitcoin address is based off of ripe160(sha256(public key)), and the public key is only revealed when you send bitcoins. However, the default client generates a new address to send "change" to every time you do a transaction, so this should not be an issue unless you have payment sent to an address after you use it and don't move the money out to a new address.
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greyhawk
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October 10, 2013, 09:31:26 AM |
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How is it uncrackable? I heard it may be a brain wallet. What is that?
Its uncrackable because its presumably heavily encrypted and not worth the years of dedicated computing power it would take to crack. A brain wallet is a wallet designed around a simple phrase or collection of words. The idea being you only need to know the phrase and a predictable bitcoin address can be generated using a specific algorithm. It allows the owner to delete any physical copy of the wallet. The only way to get to the coins is to know the phrase. The coins effectively exist nowhere but the mind of the owner, hence the name "brain wallet" I'm pretty sure skulls are crackable.
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October 10, 2013, 10:44:04 AM |
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if those coins are split between many addresses and they have separate passwords, then good luck with force bruting it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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October 10, 2013, 03:53:53 PM Last edit: October 10, 2013, 04:47:05 PM by TippingPoint |
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The brain wallet key may be based on a book in the science fiction section of the Glen Park branch of the San Francisco Public Library. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic3.demotix.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fimagecache%2Fa_scale_large%2F2800-4%2Fphotos%2F1380828039-dread-pirate-robert-arrested-at-library-for-silk-road-drug-site_2857034.jpg&t=665&c=VT6GRuwmS-48jQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic1.demotix.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fimagecache%2Fa_scale_large%2F2800-0%2F1380800-4%2Fphotos%2F1380828046-dread-pirate-robert-arrested-at-library-for-silk-road-drug-site_2857070.jpg&t=665&c=GsGe5xQfD7aj_w) Hint: he was looking at Heinlein (they only have Stranger in a Strange Land) specific edition: Author Heinlein, Robert A. (Robert Anson), 1907-1988 Title Stranger in a strange land. Publication Info. New York : Putnam, [1961] ISBN 0441790348 Description 408 p. 22 cm. Remember me ↓
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October 10, 2013, 04:53:00 PM |
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The brain wallet key may be based on a book in the science fiction section of the Glen Park branch of the San Francisco Public Library.
Hint: he was looking at Heinlein (they only have Stranger in a Strange Land)
specific edition: Author Heinlein, Robert A. (Robert Anson), 1907-1988 Title Stranger in a strange land. Publication Info. New York : Putnam, [1961] ISBN 0441790348 Description 408 p. 22 cm.
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So you really think it would maybe something like the title of the book? that would be the most smart way to safe a brainwallet....not!
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October 10, 2013, 04:55:33 PM |
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Not the title.
Either a phrase from the book, or based on the x character from pages y through z of that specific edition.
automation ftw
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October 10, 2013, 06:03:15 PM |
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October 11, 2013, 04:21:33 AM |
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MMMM the power of a beautiful mind ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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