FPGA miner for altcoin

[R0land]

Little SOCs like the Tegra X1, are all memory bandwidth limited, so you can never get optimal use out of all the cores at once. You get out only 30 h/s cryptonight (I don´t know the ethash speed).
FPGA´s are better, if you have the right environment.

Thank you!
Which algorithm would you target first with FPGA-based miner?
It can surely be ethash and such.

Try cryptonight v1 (monero) ... it´s possible.

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Try cryptonight v1 (monero) ... it´s possible.

Thank you for suggestion. And why choose that over ethash? Easier/cheaper to do?

[Iamtutut]

ETASH requires an awfull lot of memory and is quite a power hungry algo, so an expensive FPGA with a 225W power limit is not the best fit at all.

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ETASH requires an awfull lot of memory and is quite a power hungry algo, so an expensive FPGA with a 225W power limit is not the best fit at all.

My idea was to get cheaper and little older hardware and build a cheap miner. Tasks can be divided between several chips...
Yes, that will consume more power, but I think if we make calculations based on what industrial miners are paying (up to 5 cents per kwh), then there may be a niche for such product.

[Iamtutut]

ETASH requires an awfull lot of memory and is quite a power hungry algo, so an expensive FPGA with a 225W power limit is not the best fit at all.

My idea was to get cheaper and little older hardware and build a cheap miner. Tasks can be divided between several chips...
Yes, that will consume more power, but I think if we make calculations based on what industrial miners are paying (up to 5 cents per kwh), then there may be a niche for such product.

There's a project, the idea is to lower the keccak burden on the GPU.
Thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4391318.msg39871063

[arm_race]

ETASH requires an awfull lot of memory and is quite a power hungry algo, so an expensive FPGA with a 225W power limit is not the best fit at all.

My idea was to get cheaper and little older hardware and build a cheap miner. Tasks can be divided between several chips...
Yes, that will consume more power, but I think if we make calculations based on what industrial miners are paying (up to 5 cents per kwh), then there may be a niche for such product.

how cheap is cheap? we plan to price the fpga miner at $400 price range (depending on the final order number), about 20W power consumption. i don't really think you can get reasonably sized fpga device below that price

[arm_race]

ETASH requires an awfull lot of memory and is quite a power hungry algo, so an expensive FPGA with a 225W power limit is not the best fit at all.

My idea was to get cheaper and little older hardware and build a cheap miner. Tasks can be divided between several chips...
Yes, that will consume more power, but I think if we make calculations based on what industrial miners are paying (up to 5 cents per kwh), then there may be a niche for such product.

There's a project, the idea is to lower the keccak burden on the GPU.
Thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4391318.msg39871063

we have tested keccak algo, our proposed fpga miner should be able to achieve 1GH/s at 20w. the PCIe can be added so you can use it as an accelerator type of device.

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Thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4391318.msg39871063

Excellent! Thank you! Please share as much as you are willing to, at this point I am just gathering as much information as possible.

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how cheap is cheap? we plan to price the fpga miner at $400 price range (depending on the final order number), about 20W power consumption. i don't really think you can get reasonably sized fpga device below that price

Cheap is something that pays off within 6 months Even if it's $40,000 but has a short breakeven period I will (and many others) consider it a great deal.
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Your power consumption rate is amazing, good job! Hope you will succeed at making good profit with this project!

[skablast]

how cheap is cheap? we plan to price the fpga miner at $400 price range (depending on the final order number), about 20W power consumption. i don't really think you can get reasonably sized fpga device below that price


400 US isn't cheap expecially with ETH( and the market) at current price level.

I do think that there are some reasonably sized FPGA but limited to only few algos that may be sold around 200 bucks.

ANd then we have to pay attention to the bitstream. If your bitstream follow the same algos of what will be available on the other platform ie allmineinc, the risk of overlapping is high.

A fpga that mine Allium, Arto CNvariant, or skein will be more safe to purchase than one that mine Etash,CN monero and Tribus.

 

[arm_race]

how cheap is cheap? we plan to price the fpga miner at $400 price range (depending on the final order number), about 20W power consumption. i don't really think you can get reasonably sized fpga device below that price

Cheap is something that pays off within 6 months Even if it's $40,000 but has a short breakeven period I will (and many others) consider it a great deal.
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Your power consumption rate is amazing, good job! Hope you will succeed at making good profit with this project!

Thanks. if our single fpga design is proven to be successful. we consider to design a multi-fpga platform focusing on the ROI and performance.

[arm_race]

how cheap is cheap? we plan to price the fpga miner at $400 price range (depending on the final order number), about 20W power consumption. i don't really think you can get reasonably sized fpga device below that price


400 US isn't cheap expecially with ETH( and the market) at current price level.

I do think that there are some reasonably sized FPGA but limited to only few algos that may be sold around 200 bucks.

ANd then we have to pay attention to the bitstream. If your bitstream follow the same algos of what will be available on the other platform ie allmineinc, the risk of overlapping is high.

A fpga that mine Allium, Arto CNvariant, or skein will be more safe to purchase than one that mine Etash,CN monero and Tribus.

 

if you want to sell at 200, your total cost needs to be lower than 100, for that price i really doubt you can find any good sized fpga. it is no longer bitcoin time, the algo of altcoins nowadays are made wickedly complex, requiring a much larger fpga to reach reasonable hash performance

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we consider to design a multi-fpga platform focusing on the ROI and performance.

Are you interested in some kind of cooperation?

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requiring a much larger fpga to reach reasonable hash performance

But they can split the job between many cheap small ones, even though it will be not as power efficient as a single chip, but cheaper to produce

[arm_race]

requiring a much larger fpga to reach reasonable hash performance

But they can split the job between many cheap small ones, even though it will be not as power efficient as a single chip, but cheaper to produce

multi-chip layout would increase the design complexity and hence the board cost. besides the communication latency between chips would the bottleneck.. i think it would be really challenging to build any viable product at cost below $100..

[arm_race]

we consider to design a multi-fpga platform focusing on the ROI and performance.

Are you interested in some kind of cooperation?

sure, we are open to any cooperation opportunities.

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any viable product at cost below $100..

Could be any price, as long as it pays back within half a year.

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sure, we are open to any cooperation opportunities.

Is it possible to meet in person?

[arm_race]

sure, we are open to any cooperation opportunities.

Is it possible to meet in person?

we all have full time job, and busy on this project on the side, so i can't guarantee any time. but if you have something interesting, we can arrange meeting. thanks.

[GPUHoarder]

how cheap is cheap? we plan to price the fpga miner at $400 price range (depending on the final order number), about 20W power consumption. i don't really think you can get reasonably sized fpga device below that price


400 US isn't cheap expecially with ETH( and the market) at current price level.

I do think that there are some reasonably sized FPGA but limited to only few algos that may be sold around 200 bucks.

ANd then we have to pay attention to the bitstream. If your bitstream follow the same algos of what will be available on the other platform ie allmineinc, the risk of overlapping is high.

A fpga that mine Allium, Arto CNvariant, or skein will be more safe to purchase than one that mine Etash,CN monero and Tribus.

 

if you want to sell at 200, your total cost needs to be lower than 100, for that price i really doubt you can find any good sized fpga. it is no longer bitcoin time, the algo of altcoins nowadays are made wickedly complex, requiring a much larger fpga to reach reasonable hash performance

If you’re still using 28nm, should be able to have the biggest...