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October 08, 2013, 06:38:19 PM
Last edit: October 08, 2013, 08:35:49 PM by nlovric
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I am filing scam accusations against khal. I have ordered and paid for the registration of lovric.bit at their Web site – www.dot-bit.org – and have received no response – even after contacting them via e-mail – for almost 3 weeks now.


This is the order payment instructions e-mail:

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Return-Path: <www-data@dns.dot-bit.org>
X-Original-To: neven@lovric.net
Delivered-To: neven@lovric.net
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
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   for <neven@lovric.net>; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 08:47:00 +0200 (CEST)
X-Virus-Scanned: by mail-smtp01 Virus-Scanner
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   by localhost (mail-smtp01.edis.at [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
   with LMTP id XPjiMTAMXpYK for <neven@lovric.net>;
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   for <neven@lovric.net>; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 08:47:00 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from dns.dot-bit.org (dns.dot-bit.org [178.32.31.41])
   (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits))
   (No client certificate requested)
   by mail-rbl01.edis.at (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F4A410006332
   for <neven@lovric.net>; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 08:47:00 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from dns.dot-bit.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
   by dns.dot-bit.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r8L6kxaw026465
   for <neven@lovric.net>; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 06:46:59 GMT
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   by dns.dot-bit.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id r8L6kxhD026464;
   Sat, 21 Sep 2013 06:46:59 GMT
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 06:46:59 GMT
Message-Id: <201309210646.r8L6kxhD026464@dns.dot-bit.org>
To: neven@lovric.net
Subject: Dot-BIT : lovric.bit
X-PHP-Originating-Script: 33:index.php
From: register@dot-bit.org

Hello,
Your request has been recorded for the domain lovric.bit

Send 0.1BTC to 15oBUScgjuQqUGyVmCzJ1muNTcCMBx2io3 to finish the registration.

Once registered (a manual process), you'll receive instructions to access the domain panel.

Best Regards,
Khalahan
http://register.dot-bit.org/

I almost-immediately transferred 0.1 Bitcoins (BTC) to 15oBUScgjuQqUGyVmCzJ1muNTcCMBx2io3 in transaction e870266c0e30e174267c8924f07fe1831e7ba2818c756efba2e117410c6aa28e.

After no reaction for 9 days, I tried contacting them via e-mail:

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MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: AfterLogic WebMail PHP
X-Originating-IP: 128.6.224.107
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <8e03847.a5d8492dc5aa159d1c596f902216de65@afterlogic.edis.at>
From: "=?utf-8?Q?Neven_Lovri=C4=87?=" <neven@lovric.net>
To: register@dot-bit.org
Disposition-Notification-To: =?utf-8?Q?"Neven_Lovri=C4=87"_<neven@lovric.net>?=
X-Confirm-Reading-To: =?utf-8?Q?"Neven_Lovri=C4=87"_<neven@lovric.net>?=
Subject: Re: Dot-BIT : lovric.bit
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 16:27:10 +0000 (GMT)
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What is the situation with this?
--

Neven Lovrić <neven@lovric.net> – https://www.lovric.net/neven/

Bitcoin: 15eHztzh2YRFua3cBLWH8g87xm6tQ83FR3
OpenPGP: 7777 B191 5933 ACF1 B998  0101 70B9 7690 C7F8 DD31



>---- Original Message ----
>From: register@dot-bit.org
>To: neven@lovric.net
>Sent: Sat, Sep 21, 2013, 6:47 AM
>Subject: Dot-BIT : lovric.bit
>
>Hello,
>Your request has been recorded for the domain lovric.bit
>
>Send 0.1BTC to 15oBUScgjuQqUGyVmCzJ1muNTcCMBx2io3 to finish the registration.
>
>Once registered (a manual process), you'll receive instructions to access the domain panel.
>
>Best Regards,
>Khalahan
>http://register.dot-bit.org/

3,247 confirmations later, I have still not received any response.

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October 08, 2013, 07:33:23 PM
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Sorry to hear about it. Can't you get .bit domains for $1, though?

I'm dabbling in Bitcointalk again - I won't be making trades with people. If I try to trade with you, ask for a signature from my address 171717... which I have had control of since about 2015. If I can't provide it, I might have been hacked.
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October 08, 2013, 07:37:48 PM
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Can't you get .bit domains for $1, though?


How?

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October 08, 2013, 07:51:30 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=204306

Might be dead now, though...or just down.

I'm dabbling in Bitcointalk again - I won't be making trades with people. If I try to trade with you, ask for a signature from my address 171717... which I have had control of since about 2015. If I can't provide it, I might have been hacked.
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October 08, 2013, 08:09:45 PM
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Might be dead now, though...or just down.


Can't access it; any alternatives?

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October 08, 2013, 11:13:22 PM
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Haven't tried them but there is dotbit.me. .02 btc per domain.
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October 09, 2013, 09:33:52 AM
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You don't need a registar for namecoin domains. In fact, it is the best idea to not use a registar, because the domain belongs to them instead of you and there is no regulatory agency to keep their behavior in check.

Download namecoin-qt or namecoind and follow instructions to register namecoin domains yourself - for 0.01 NMC.
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October 09, 2013, 08:25:02 PM
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and there is no regulatory agency to keep their behavior in check.

(Lately, it's the regulatory agencies that are seizing domains.)

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October 09, 2013, 08:45:49 PM
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0.01 NMC.

That's actually cheaper than I thought it was via namecoin-qt. Damn.

I'm dabbling in Bitcointalk again - I won't be making trades with people. If I try to trade with you, ask for a signature from my address 171717... which I have had control of since about 2015. If I can't provide it, I might have been hacked.
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October 09, 2013, 09:02:20 PM
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the domain belongs to them instead of you

So, these domains cannot be transferred into the ownership of another secret key?

My present knowledge of Namecoin is limited to the terms "Bitcoin-based" and "decentralized".


Download namecoin-qt or namecoind and follow instructions to register namecoin domains yourself - for 0.01 NMC.

I won't be able to do so until I set up my system.

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December 16, 2013, 02:47:05 AM
Last edit: December 16, 2013, 01:41:07 PM by kugutsumen
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*solved*
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December 16, 2013, 04:28:21 AM
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They should be added to the known scammers list.

In my case, I've received no response for almost 3 months after payment. They're logging into Bitcointalk; therefore, they're not in a hospital, in prison, their workstation is not dead, or wherever, so they should be able to – at least – respond.

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Edit: *solved* see below
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December 16, 2013, 01:40:47 PM
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Found Khal on Freenode #namecoin:

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12:36 < zboralski> c0rw1n: done. We'll see if he replies on his own forums.
12:36 < zboralski> http://dot-bit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1430&p=7636#p7636
12:36 < c0rw1n> mh i dont think he'll respond any time soon. Not because scam, but because he's not been active since October 31 in the forum,
                Nov 22 on Twitter, Oct 30 on Github
12:37 < khalahan_> hi zboralski
12:37 < c0rw1n> oh
12:38 < c0rw1n> that was fast
12:38 < zboralski> then why doesn't he takes down register.dot-bit.org
12:38 < zboralski> khalahan_: hi
12:38 < khalahan_> i really must close new registrations as I'm not able to process them, sorry
12:38 < c0rw1n> ah so that's where the registering was
12:38 -!- yago [~kresp0@gateway/tor-sasl/kresp0] has joined #namecoin
12:38 < khalahan_> send me a btc address by PM and I'll refund
12:38 < c0rw1n> told you it was giving up, not scamming
12:38 < zboralski> you are getting a really bad reputation because of that process.
12:38 < zboralski> cheers
12:38 < khalahan_> Yes, I know...
12:41 < zboralski> in your private message on here.
12:41 < zboralski> it won't work on your forums.
12:41 < zboralski> We are sorry, but you are not authorised to use this feature. You may have just registered here and may
                   need to participate more to be able to use this feature.
12:43 < khalahan_> ok
12:44 < khalahan_> http://register.dot-bit.org/ => updated
12:55 < khalahan_> zboralski, refund has been sent

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December 18, 2013, 02:34:11 PM
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I will request a refund to 1BMWacvRR6HS1ZVbUZ7dwKseCsX4zduVor via Private Message (PM) here.

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December 18, 2013, 08:46:44 PM
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I will request a refund to 1BMWacvRR6HS1ZVbUZ7dwKseCsX4zduVor via Private Message (PM) here.
Refund of 0.1BTC sent to 1BMWacvRR6HS1ZVbUZ7dwKseCsX4zduVor.
TxId : fb9777912f3c8ed5a43e566dda89ecf7c6aa5f2d0ad5983326d5970374378531

Sorry for the delay.
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December 19, 2013, 01:22:13 AM
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I have received the refund and have updated my trust feedback on khal to positive as it is not possible to provide neutral trust feedback.

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