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October 20, 2013, 01:55:42 PM |
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I don't understand: if selling accounts is allowed why tysat gave Subud! negative feedback for selling accounts?
Is Subud! selling stolen accounts?
its right to give negative rating for subud its illegal to sell accounts |
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Subud!
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October 20, 2013, 02:19:31 PM
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I don't understand: if selling accounts is allowed why tysat gave Subud! negative feedback for selling accounts?
Is Subud! selling stolen accounts?
its right to give negative rating for subud its illegal to sell accounts tysat is acting on his emotion rather than basing on forum rules. |
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October 20, 2013, 02:28:24 PM |
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I don't understand: if selling accounts is allowed why tysat gave Subud! negative feedback for selling accounts?
Is Subud! selling stolen accounts?
its right to give negative rating for subud its illegal to sell accounts tysat is acting on its emotion not based on forum rules. There are no rules for trust. If there was a way to leave neutral feedback I would do that instead, but there's not. Selling accounts is a somewhat shady activity, in my eyes, and I want to have a record of who is doing it. |
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July 17, 2014, 03:00:57 AM
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July 17, 2014, 03:04:07 AM |
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Selling Account is for Scam purposes . that's what i see here.
You are correct.. |
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Lieji
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July 17, 2014, 08:55:04 AM |
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Selling Account is for Scam purposes . that's what i see here.
Very likely. Another possible use maybe is for sig campaign. |
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July 17, 2014, 11:18:28 AM |
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I think it's a bit silly. Kind of like how you wouldn't sell your passport or your drivers' license or your college diploma or even your Facebook account. A forum account complete with username, post history, etc. is sort of like the online equivalent of those. It's almost like (well actually, it's exactly like) taking over a strangers' online identity.  |
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July 17, 2014, 11:19:45 AM |
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Selling Account is for Scam purposes . that's what i see here.
You are correct.. I agree and I very don't like to see people selling their accounts! And I am not talking about "member" accounts but full/sr/and hero.... A starterpack for scammers ... |
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July 17, 2014, 11:21:58 AM |
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its most likely for signature campaign. with link on signature space, its what SEO's call "backlinks"
anyhow, selling account is a shady thing
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July 17, 2014, 11:25:46 AM |
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its most likely for signature campaign. with link on signature space, its what SEO's call "backlinks"
anyhow, selling account is a shady thing
it is not really most likely for sig campaigns. This is most likely to buy trusted account and make a scam.... believe me.. Sig campaigns too ... but. |
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July 17, 2014, 04:03:58 PM |
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its most likely for signature campaign. with link on signature space, its what SEO's call "backlinks"
anyhow, selling account is a shady thing
it is not really most likely for sig campaigns. This is most likely to buy trusted account and make a scam.... believe me.. Sig campaigns too ... but. If we could see a percentage of what bought accounts were used for in the last year, it'll probably be 60/40, with 60% being used for some sort of scamming. We could try and prevent it, but the trades would just move off-site. Also, much more bought accounts nowadays are used for sig campaigns due to the member group restrictions on signatures and overall increased payment to sig campaign participants. |
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July 17, 2014, 04:55:09 PM |
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I very much doubt it's any where near these figures that are being branded about. The vast majority will be used for signature deals. 90% is probably a conservative estimate. Why spend 0.4 on a Snr account when you can scam on a newbie one? It's probably not even worth buying one. If you're suspected of even trying to pull a scam the account will be negbombed and ruined and you've lost your money. If that happens on a newbie account the scammer just rinses and repeats and has lost nothing.
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mprep
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July 17, 2014, 05:03:38 PM |
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I very much doubt it's any where near these figures that are being branded about. The vast majority will be used for signature deals. 90% is probably a conservative estimate. Why spend 0.4 on a Snr account when you can scam on a newbie one? It's probably not even worth buying one. If you're suspected of even trying to pull a scam the account will be negbombed and ruined and you've lost your money. If that happens on a newbie account the scammer just rinses and repeats and has lost nothing.
Some scams are quite elaborate and well planned since they usually involve much more money than usual. A fake rep and an older account is needed for those. As Bitcoin is getting a bigger crowd, bigger deals happen thus more money is moved. Some scammers want to cash in on these deals. |
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July 17, 2014, 05:07:16 PM |
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I think the scam percentage is pretty high to be honest but certainly not 60% but I would say double digit is a real possibility. I also agree with hilariousandco the majority of scammers are going to scam ppl with a newbie acct and the scam will usually involve them selling a full member or senior member acct. Unless they have a means to scam more then a few ppl they are not going to risk an account with value.
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Baitty
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July 17, 2014, 05:13:33 PM |
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Seems like the majority of the account selling is for signature campaigns as they normally state in their post that its already enrolled etc.
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July 17, 2014, 05:17:23 PM |
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I very much doubt it's any where near these figures that are being branded about. The vast majority will be used for signature deals. 90% is probably a conservative estimate. Why spend 0.4 on a Snr account when you can scam on a newbie one? It's probably not even worth buying one. If you're suspected of even trying to pull a scam the account will be negbombed and ruined and you've lost your money. If that happens on a newbie account the scammer just rinses and repeats and has lost nothing.
Some scams are quite elaborate and well planned since they usually involve much more money than usual. A fake rep and an older account is needed for those. As Bitcoin is getting a bigger crowd, bigger deals happen thus more money is moved. Some scammers want to cash in on these deals. But some scams are really obvious (eg. ponzis, impersonators, sending you a file via Skype, asking you to "test a program", etc) and yet people still fall for it... I guess hilariousandco's point is, if you can do it the easy way, why would you waste 0.4 btc and do it the hard way. |
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July 17, 2014, 05:25:04 PM |
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Re why would people buy accounts? The forum has stringent rules on limits for signatures based on activity. So people who want to have a large signatures, like those used in advertising, will pay people for their higher activity accounts.
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July 17, 2014, 07:53:42 PM |
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I very much doubt it's any where near these figures that are being branded about. The vast majority will be used for signature deals. 90% is probably a conservative estimate. Why spend 0.4 on a Snr account when you can scam on a newbie one? It's probably not even worth buying one. If you're suspected of even trying to pull a scam the account will be negbombed and ruined and you've lost your money. If that happens on a newbie account the scammer just rinses and repeats and has lost nothing.
Some scams are quite elaborate and well planned since they usually involve much more money than usual. A fake rep and an older account is needed for those. As Bitcoin is getting a bigger crowd, bigger deals happen thus more money is moved. Some scammers want to cash in on these deals. But some scams are really obvious (eg. ponzis, impersonators, sending you a file via Skype, asking you to "test a program", etc) and yet people still fall for it... I guess hilariousandco's point is, if you can do it the easy way, why would you waste 0.4 btc and do it the hard way. To do major scams that would set you for life maybe.  |
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July 17, 2014, 10:12:46 PM |
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tbh an older account with high activity (and maybe even a good trustrating) is one of the best tools for a big scam.
i saw alot of scams happen here on this forums and there will probaly alot to come in the future.
would it even technically be possible to track a account that has been sold? because i doubt that would be possible if the holder of the bought account(s) uses some vpn for the right ip adress?
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July 17, 2014, 10:33:07 PM |
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tbh an older account with high activity (and maybe even a good trustrating) is one of the best tools for a big scam.
i saw alot of scams happen here on this forums and there will probaly alot to come in the future.
would it even technically be possible to track a account that has been sold? because i doubt that would be possible if the holder of the bought account(s) uses some vpn for the right ip adress?
Maybe there could be a way to add a comment in the trust rating so people know the account has been sold? That way the former owner of an account is not held responsible for actions they didn't actually do. |
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