douchebag newegg bumped the price of 5830 to $129.99

[Desolator]

You thought the newegg drama was over.  You thought wrong!

So I got 1 Sapphire 5830 from Newegg like a week ago.  I mean I ordered it then and got it 2 days ago.  So about 1-1.5 days ago, they ran out.  There are 0 in stock I was about to order it then went to sleep and woke up and THEY WERE GONE!  I think some nocturnal critter like raccoons must have taken the last few overnight or something lol. That's great but now I want 2 more.  So I added myself to the auto-notify list and unhappily expected to wait a week or two.

But oh hell no! This is newegg.  They gotta screw with me in the meantime  so apparently while I was gone today on lots of work appointments, apparently they got more in and then sold out again so I'm right back where I was but technically could have gotten one grrrrr.  I think maybe they got 1 single card returned or something cuz they don't typically run out, get more, and run out again in like 36 hours.  But knowing them, they probably just found another one they didn't know they had and sold it lol.

[Starlightbreaker]

if you don't mind waiting and willing to throw in some extra $$, just get 5850 from ncixus.com.

164, shipped to US.

not a bad deal.

[geek-trader]

You thought the newegg drama was over.  You thought wrong!

So I got 1 Sapphire 5830 from Newegg like a week ago.  I mean I ordered it then and got it 2 days ago.  So about 1-1.5 days ago, they ran out.  There are 0 in stock I was about to order it then went to sleep and woke up and THEY WERE GONE!  I think some nocturnal critter like raccoons must have taken the last few overnight or something lol. That's great but now I want 2 more.  So I added myself to the auto-notify list and unhappily expected to wait a week or two.

But oh hell no! This is newegg.  They gotta screw with me in the meantime  so apparently while I was gone today on lots of work appointments, apparently they got more in and then sold out again so I'm right back where I was but technically could have gotten one grrrrr.  I think maybe they got 1 single card returned or something cuz they don't typically run out, get more, and run out again in like 36 hours.  But knowing them, they probably just found another one they didn't know they had and sold it lol.

The 5830 shows as in stock right now. And, I bought 2 yesterday, they shipped today.

[Desolator]

okay, it has been maybe 3 hours since they were out and they're now back in again? that's wonderful lol.  I think that makes it for the last 2 days: in, out, in, out, in   Technically this is the alternate model that's now back in stock but still.  Speaking of that, there's 2 sapphire 5830's in stock.  I looked at them side by side and all they changed between them was removing the clock speed stat completely from one of them.  Otherwise they're identical.  What's the difference that adds the word "extreme" to the extreme version?  The cooler?  OCing abilities?  Check em out:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102946

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102878


Oh and actually the 5850 is a pretty bad deal.  The MH/watt and MH/$ go down the toilet with that card compared to the 5830.

[Desolator]

OOOOOOOOOOOOKAY, it's been approximately 30 seconds since my last post and you may notice that they're

OUT OF STOCK AGAIN!  

I think they never came back in stock.  I did the search and they said they were in stock but I clicked on it and they're out of stock.  So either it's a glitch or these really are selling fast! lol.  It appears to be a glitch.  If you click "add to cart" from the search results which claim they're in stock, it says in big red letters:

Sapphire Tech 100297L has been removed from shopping cart due to quantity limitation/insufficient stock. Some combo items might be affected by this.

So anyway, what's the big difference between those 2 cards?

[myrkul]

OOOOOOOOOOOOKAY, it's been approximately 30 seconds since my last post and you may notice that they're

OUT OF STOCK AGAIN!  

Now they're just fucking with you.

[Kermee]

So anyway, what's the big difference between those 2 cards?

For mining, nothing.  I have both in my rigs.

Cheers,
Kermee

[Desolator]

[pbj sammich]

What's the difference that adds the word "extreme" to the extreme version? 

the difference is $20 dollars 

[dub0matic]

I think the difference was free shipping 

[mike678]

if you don't mind waiting and willing to throw in some extra $$, just get 5850 from ncixus.com.

164, shipped to US.

not a bad deal.

That's a horrible deal and if you think it's good your retarded.
311/164=1.89

You could pick up a 6950 on newegg right now for 209
400/209=1.91

Also the 6950 saves 34% more electricity.

[Starlightbreaker]

if you don't mind waiting and willing to throw in some extra $$, just get 5850 from ncixus.com.

164, shipped to US.

not a bad deal.

That's a horrible deal and if you think it's good your retarded.
311/164=1.89

You could pick up a 6950 on newegg right now for 209
400/209=1.91

Also the 6950 saves 34% more electricity.

i don't run my cards at stock speed.
and electricity is not really an issue for me.

[mike678]

if you don't mind waiting and willing to throw in some extra $$, just get 5850 from ncixus.com.

164, shipped to US.

not a bad deal.

That's a horrible deal and if you think it's good your retarded.
311/164=1.89

You could pick up a 6950 on newegg right now for 209
400/209=1.91

Also the 6950 saves 34% more electricity.

i don't run my cards at stock speed.
and electricity is not really an issue for me.

Those aren't stock speeds -_-

[forexmasterja]

6950 @ 400mhash sounds a bit much

more like 375

[mike678]

6950 @ 400mhash sounds a bit much

more like 375

fair enough but megahash per cost of server I'm pretty sure will still make it better then a 5830 @ 164

[forexmasterja]

6950 @ 400mhash sounds a bit much

more like 375

fair enough but megahash per cost of server I'm pretty sure will still make it better then a 5830 @ 164

Firstly its a 5850 and based on my math

5850 = 360/164=2.19 (I'm getting on avg 364mh from my 5850's)

and the 6950 is $209 after rebate and is actually $239 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150523

so therefore 6950 = 375/239=1.56 (WORST INVESTMENT EVER)
would have been better you went with some 6870's i get 300mhash from my 6870's and they are $174 on newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

6870 = 300/174=1.72

My math could be off but thats what i'm getting ..

[Kermee]

if you don't mind waiting and willing to throw in some extra $$, just get 5850 from ncixus.com.

164, shipped to US.

not a bad deal.

That's a horrible deal and if you think it's good your retarded.
311/164=1.89

You could pick up a 6950 on newegg right now for 209
400/209=1.91

Also the 6950 saves 34% more electricity.

You realize it's a 5850... right?  Which easily does 380 MH/s+... Not sure where you're getting 311...

Cheers,
Kermee

[wallet.dat]

You realize it's a 5850... right?  Which easily does 380 MH/s+... Not sure where you're getting 311...

Wrd. 5850 and 5870 used to be THE single-GPU cards to get until the supply dried up.  Then everybody had to settle for 5830s.   5850s at $150 shipped didn't last long.

[Desolator]

I need to make a purchase decision ASAP so instead of people totally not comparing apples to apples (comparing 1 card to another with different drivers, different mining techniques, different flags, and different overclocking settings is like comparing apples to volkswagons) I'm just gonna look at:

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

You can see, stock 5830's run at like 240 MH/s and that's what I got but turn on vectors, change the work size, and OC it to 900 on the core clock and mine gets 279.8 MH/s on average and uses around 125-155W to my best estimation.  The system idled at 110W without the card and it's 265W steady now with the card so possibly 155W on the card I guess.

Btw I'm not really going by that one famous article that was on slashdot and stuff that put together pretty graphs and stuff.  They were mostly correct but they didn't OC most of the cards at all so alright, that's reasonable, but it would appear they didn't even optimize the extra flags and there's no excuse for that.  I'll put together my own report based on that wiki article as soon as possible.

My initial finds are that all 6000 series cards from at least the 6870 on down, just based on initial price vs MH/s, are HORRIBLE.  I didn't take wattage into account but I doubt that break even point is even 3 years on electricity savings vs initial buying price and a lot of them probably aren't more power efficient at all.  For example, hash speed and spec-wise the 6870 basically is a 5830 but $35 more expensive and actually a hair slower and almost precisely the same wattage too.

[mike678]

oh lol my bad I thought he said 5830. That's my fault and I'm sorry for making the mistake. I just read it quickly and assumed he was talking about the 5830 since the thread is about the 5830