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I was thinking on some news i read a couple days ago some news about the bitcoin price manipulation. What would happen if we make a coordinated trading whit a high number of tradings partners  explaining better buying and selling at the same time with all  tradings partners  buying will grow up the price and selling will down the price in some way the price will be predictable it could work better in low price cryptocurrency like NXT on USDT to manipulate the cryptocurrencys price a high amount of money is  necessary  but if we dont have a high amount of money we need many tradings partners operating at the same time it could get the maximum profit for all please tell me if it could work
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March 10, 2018, 08:38:58 PM
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I was thinking on some news i read a couple days ago some news about the bitcoin price manipulation. What would happen if we make a coordinated trading whit a high number of tradings partners  explaining better buying and selling at the same time with all  tradings partners  buying will grow up the price and selling will down the price in some way the price will be predictable it could work better in low price cryptocurrency like NXT on USDT to manipulate the cryptocurrencys price a high amount of money is  necessary  but if we dont have a high amount of money we need many tradings partners operating at the same time it could get the maximum profit for all please tell me if it could work

Of course it could work, this is what a pump and dump group is. Given that crypto is unregulated this is allowed (It's not allowed in more traditional markets) but you need to know that the people you're doing it with have deep enough pockets and are trustworthy. Someone can easily cash out before your target and then you're all left holding falling coins.
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March 10, 2018, 09:09:46 PM
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I was thinking on some news i read a couple days ago some news about the bitcoin price manipulation. What would happen if we make a coordinated trading whit a high number of tradings partners  explaining better buying and selling at the same time with all  tradings partners  buying will grow up the price and selling will down the price in some way the price will be predictable it could work better in low price cryptocurrency like NXT on USDT to manipulate the cryptocurrencys price a high amount of money is  necessary  but if we dont have a high amount of money we need many tradings partners operating at the same time it could get the maximum profit for all please tell me if it could work

Of course it could work, this is what a pump and dump group is. Given that crypto is unregulated this is allowed (It's not allowed in more traditional markets) but you need to know that the people you're doing it with have deep enough pockets and are trustworthy. Someone can easily cash out before your target and then you're all left holding falling coins.
But you can't get the maximum profit if you are late to exchange your coins, you still need a large amount of money to play the market price.

There are many groups of traders mostly in telegram they are just sharing what coin you should buy and when they are planning to sell their holdings. If you join in this pump and dump group you must be active and updated so that you don't be late when the time for selling comes.

If you are late, then your coins will stay no profit until your coin is useless and lose. So if you are planning to build a group or join in pump and dump group you must be updated.

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March 10, 2018, 09:34:55 PM
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a) Either you will not be able to maximize your profit because your not in on the inner circle of a pump group (which is most likely)

b) Or you create the pump group and are involved in the inner circle (but are highly immoral and unethical)

Either way you paint it, its not a good look if you ask me.

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March 10, 2018, 10:35:27 PM
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a) Either you will not be able to maximize your profit because your not in on the inner circle of a pump group (which is most likely)

b) Or you create the pump group and are involved in the inner circle (but are highly immoral and unethical)

Either way you paint it, its not a good look if you ask me.
In moral sense it wont really look good since any thing that do involves manipulation isnt really appealing on my side this is why i dont really entrust or commend this kind of idea but still there are greedy people who do made such action and made groups which are for sole purpose on using up other people for the sake of making money out of it.

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March 11, 2018, 10:08:48 PM
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I was thinking on some news i read a couple days ago some news about the bitcoin price manipulation. What would happen if we make a coordinated trading whit a high number of tradings partners  explaining better buying and selling at the same time with all  tradings partners  buying will grow up the price and selling will down the price in some way the price will be predictable it could work better in low price cryptocurrency like NXT on USDT to manipulate the cryptocurrencys price a high amount of money is  necessary  but if we dont have a high amount of money we need many tradings partners operating at the same time it could get the maximum profit for all please tell me if it could work

Of course it could work, this is what a pump and dump group is. Given that crypto is unregulated this is allowed (It's not allowed in more traditional markets) but you need to know that the people you're doing it with have deep enough pockets and are trustworthy. Someone can easily cash out before your target and then you're all left holding falling coins.
But you can't get the maximum profit if you are late to exchange your coins, you still need a large amount of money to play the market price.

There are many groups of traders mostly in telegram they are just sharing what coin you should buy and when they are planning to sell their holdings. If you join in this pump and dump group you must be active and updated so that you don't be late when the time for selling comes.

If you are late, then your coins will stay no profit until your coin is useless and lose. So if you are planning to build a group or join in pump and dump group you must be updated.

Exactly, that's why if you were able to do it as an individual it would be much better but that's a lot of funds that are required to manipulate a market like that. Most P+D groups the founders will buy before they announce the target coin and will sell before it reach the target price.
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March 11, 2018, 10:28:08 PM
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I was thinking on some news i read a couple days ago some news about the bitcoin price manipulation. What would happen if we make a coordinated trading whit a high number of tradings partners  explaining better buying and selling at the same time with all  tradings partners  buying will grow up the price and selling will down the price in some way the price will be predictable it could work better in low price cryptocurrency like NXT on USDT to manipulate the cryptocurrencys price a high amount of money is  necessary  but if we dont have a high amount of money we need many tradings partners operating at the same time it could get the maximum profit for all please tell me if it could work

Of course it could work, this is what a pump and dump group is. Given that crypto is unregulated this is allowed (It's not allowed in more traditional markets) but you need to know that the people you're doing it with have deep enough pockets and are trustworthy. Someone can easily cash out before your target and then you're all left holding falling coins.
That’s the way it works pumping and the dumping of coins is the best wai to get a lot of profits but the thing is knowing the exact coin to begin because in the crypto world trading world that’s al there is .

 
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March 12, 2018, 03:33:39 AM
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Thanks by your answers someone of you have some experience using some traders group and could you left the links of the traders groups you know
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I also like to learn how to get maximum trading profit !! also want to earn a great deal. I hope you can send me a link. thank you and advance ..
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March 12, 2018, 04:58:32 AM
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If you are a newbie, you can take advantage of the social trading program available on a couple of exchange sites. In this program, you can follow the experienced traders by allocating your funds and mutually deciding on a profit amount. Apart from this, you can set a profit percentage, when achieved exit the trade. This way you can go on and off to achieve maximum profit.

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March 12, 2018, 06:47:00 AM
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I was thinking on some news i read a couple days ago some news about the bitcoin price manipulation. What would happen if we make a coordinated trading whit a high number of tradings partners  explaining better buying and selling at the same time with all  tradings partners  buying will grow up the price and selling will down the price in some way the price will be predictable it could work better in low price cryptocurrency like NXT on USDT to manipulate the cryptocurrencys price a high amount of money is  necessary  but if we dont have a high amount of money we need many tradings partners operating at the same time it could get the maximum profit for all please tell me if it could work
If you work for them or join that attack incase you don't know it could vanish anytime so if you're not carefull enough you could lose half the price of your invested money in an instant. Coordinated attack on bumps can benefit only those who are active and ready to risk everything  but of course the one that benefits the most are the one who planned it or the one who has a lot of money why? Cause they can manipulate you and the value obviously.
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I was thinking on some news i read a couple days ago some news about the bitcoin price manipulation. What would happen if we make a coordinated trading whit a high number of tradings partners  explaining better buying and selling at the same time with all  tradings partners  buying will grow up the price and selling will down the price in some way the price will be predictable it could work better in low price cryptocurrency like NXT on USDT to manipulate the cryptocurrencys price a high amount of money is  necessary  but if we dont have a high amount of money we need many tradings partners operating at the same time it could get the maximum profit for all please tell me if it could work

Of course it could work, this is what a pump and dump group is. Given that crypto is unregulated this is allowed (It's not allowed in more traditional markets) but you need to know that the people you're doing it with have deep enough pockets and are trustworthy. Someone can easily cash out before your target and then you're all left holding falling coins.
But you can't get the maximum profit if you are late to exchange your coins, you still need a large amount of money to play the market price.

There are many groups of traders mostly in telegram they are just sharing what coin you should buy and when they are planning to sell their holdings. If you join in this pump and dump group you must be active and updated so that you don't be late when the time for selling comes.

If you are late, then your coins will stay no profit until your coin is useless and lose. So if you are planning to build a group or join in pump and dump group you must be updated.

Yes, it actually works and is already being practiced. This pump and dump is already being done by trading groups. A group of traders is usually formed and they regularly update each other through social media or communication platforms such as telegram or facebook groups. It's really effective and if many in the group would come through, the price movement would likely follow. The trick here is to keep track of these group's intended actions so you won't get left out.
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March 12, 2018, 04:30:02 PM
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I also like to learn how to get maximum trading profit !! also want to earn a great deal. I hope you can send me a link. thank you and advance ..
Try practicing first and to do research on the potential coin which are ready to blast off. For the trading profit, this would definitely base on the assets your risking. The risk is higher and the profit will also be higher.

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March 12, 2018, 05:45:11 PM
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What you are talking about is creating a something like an "invest fund" to place massive buy / sell orders in order to push the marker. It might wirk with coins like BTC or ETH. You will literally make another whale. Maybe it will also make the market more volatile because it won't increase the total volume and liquidity.
But it will never work with low cap coins unless you are trying to act like P&D groups. If you try to group up people  for buying / selling such altcoins at the same time then there is a high chance that you will get a lack of liquidity when you need to place a sell order.
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What you are talking about is creating a something like an "invest fund" to place massive buy / sell orders in order to push the marker. It might wirk with coins like BTC or ETH. You will literally make another whale. Maybe it will also make the market more volatile because it won't increase the total volume and liquidity.
But it will never work with low cap coins unless you are trying to act like P&D groups. If you try to group up people  for buying / selling such altcoins at the same time then there is a high chance that you will get a lack of liquidity when you need to place a sell order.

At the same time it's near impossible to move the bitcoin and ETH markets because they have so much liquidity. In that lies the skill, you need to know how much you need to move a market but also how much liquidity a market needs for you to then be able to cash out once the price has reached your desired selling point.
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First, Focus on learning how and why price moves, and you will make money and focus on how to make money, and you will go nowhere.

Second, try to be profitable before you think about max profit.There is slight difference. Before you run learn to walk without tripping up on every step and control risk you have an edge and without edge don't even think about profits. And once you've learned how and why the price moves, get into the habit of increasing your position once the price starts moving in the direction of your initial trade and this habit is really important in trading so you need to make sure not to pick up a lot of bad habits while you're still learning.


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March 13, 2018, 04:48:54 AM
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if in my opinion about sharing knowledge how can get profit when we do trading with maximal it requires experience and also good knowledge, besides in terms of risk trading is borne by the trading player, good and bad it is option when we play trading but if we can take steps to advance it better
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The trading is a good way to make profit and with this way many people have changed their lives and bitcoin trading is very profitable and for the crypto coins it is good to start trading from now and if we check the history of the crypto coins then the popular coins are now the bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum and many more are good to start in the first.

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First, Focus on learning how and why price moves, and you will make money and focus on how to make money, and you will go nowhere.

Second, try to be profitable before you think about max profit.There is slight difference. Before you run learn to walk without tripping up on every step and control risk you have an edge and without edge don't even think about profits. And once you've learned how and why the price moves, get into the habit of increasing your position once the price starts moving in the direction of your initial trade and this habit is really important in trading so you need to make sure not to pick up a lot of bad habits while you're still learning.



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I also like to learn how to get maximum trading profit !! also want to earn a great deal. I hope you can send me a link. thank you and advance ..
Asking for an advice is better. This can help you to seek guidance from experienced people and ultimately you will learn how to get best of out of something. But still it seems like you are becoming a dependent fellow on someone. Don’t wait for someone who will sometime give you a link and then you will go there and work, no. Be smart and start searching for yourself how to get information from different sources.
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March 14, 2018, 07:53:54 AM
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Good Idea and this is going to work out perfectly and we should know that there most be a provisions to limit those that may want to dump and take advantage of other in other to limit greediness because that is what drive the market and we should not expect the changes of human mind about this.
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March 14, 2018, 09:45:04 AM
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I was thinking on some news i read a couple days ago some news about the bitcoin price manipulation. What would happen if we make a coordinated trading whit a high number of tradings partners  explaining better buying and selling at the same time with all  tradings partners  buying will grow up the price and selling will down the price in some way the price will be predictable it could work better in low price cryptocurrency like NXT on USDT to manipulate the cryptocurrencys price a high amount of money is  necessary  but if we dont have a high amount of money we need many tradings partners operating at the same time it could get the maximum profit for all please tell me if it could work

I think that's one of the downsides of having a decentralized type of currency. A large number of people could convene and collude to manipulate the price of certain coins that could really affect how small players in the market. If there is truth to that, I think that other players should try to neutralize this from really making a big impact in the market so that it would not be unfair for those who are just trying to make it big in this market without doing anything but looking at the market closely. If some number of people could manipulate the value of some coins to make their trades more valuable, isn't that a form of cheating already?

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It won't work, even if you have big community with more than 10k member and millions of $ it can't even manipulate a bitcoin market with a total cap of 150B$ and you need hundred millions of dollar to even manipulate a market for a day. Take a look at the 24H volume of bitcoin with billions of dollar volume. If you're talking about manipulating altcoin like NXT or anything, you might see the price go up but it al about volume, if it goes up all the way because of your volume only, then you won't be able to cash it out. Altcoins didn't have enough reputation to be triggered with a couple millions of dollar. You should stop thinking about manipulating something and try to study your own trade instead.
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but just reminder some dump and pump group , the profit are just for the people behind that , and new commers are just buy and get loss , didnt get the profit
Their target has always been newbies and that is an unethical way of trying to maximize profit. I guess OP must be thinking he is coming up with this idea for the first time. It has always been like this and really, it is not considered as scam by most people after all the losses they have ended up having and no one will ever give any shit about a pump and dump group these days.

What the guys calling the shot always end up doing is to accumulate at the bottom, tell the followers to buy, the price skyrockets and they dump. Some will even lie to you that they are not participating. That is crazy and totally crazy!
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March 15, 2018, 05:22:34 PM
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It's of course work in crypto currency but you must influence more people to get same action to buy. I think this is a problem because we don't know how to convey that to all trader and each trader certainly have their mean to decide. except you have so much assets that you can decide your self to get effect.

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First you need to calm down. Take yourself in hand and wait until the price and the market stabilize, and only then talk about the benefits.
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I was thinking on some news i read a couple days ago some news about the bitcoin price manipulation. What would happen if we make a coordinated trading whit a high number of tradings partners  explaining better buying and selling at the same time with all  tradings partners  buying will grow up the price and selling will down the price in some way the price will be predictable it could work better in low price cryptocurrency like NXT on USDT to manipulate the cryptocurrencys price a high amount of money is  necessary  but if we dont have a high amount of money we need many tradings partners operating at the same time it could get the maximum profit for all please tell me if it could work
It is not new. That is more like creating a pump and dump group and normally, whoever is calling the shot is always the one enjoying the benefits. I am not sure anyone will be ready to go that road with you, unless you are just some group of whales with some huge amount of money or holding to play with the market, and if you have good knowledge of trading to play with how traders do their thing, then you should end up having a good win.
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a) Either you will not be able to maximize your profit because your not in on the inner circle of a pump group (which is most likely)

b) Or you create the pump group and are involved in the inner circle (but are highly immoral and unethical)

Either way you paint it, its not a good look if you ask me.
Right and most of the creators of the pump groups are always unethical since they actually just want to keep enriching themselves at the expense of others and that was the reason bittrex sent a message on banning anyone that is suspected to be involved in pump activities.

The thing is whoever is in the inner circle are always the ones enjoying and those who are just on the surface getting either lucky or losing a lot in the process. I really do not fancy that as well and those days are long gone anyway since people are already enlightened to how pump groups suck.
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I was thinking on some news i read a couple days ago some news about the bitcoin price manipulation. What would happen if we make a coordinated trading whit a high number of tradings partners  explaining better buying and selling at the same time with all  tradings partners  buying will grow up the price and selling will down the price in some way the price will be predictable it could work better in low price cryptocurrency like NXT on USDT to manipulate the cryptocurrencys price a high amount of money is  necessary  but if we dont have a high amount of money we need many tradings partners operating at the same time it could get the maximum profit for all please tell me if it could work

Thats actually not allowed to do and people do it all the time anyway called as Pumper groups. This method is artificial way of pumping any coin that you wish to invest and it is mostly followed with the help of telegram groups who decide what to pump and when to pump and even upto what extension to pump it. I think it is better to stay from such methods because they do work but they are more than a risk to follow in first place. We dont know if all the members will really follow the rules and someone might just dump the coin before it surpass your ROI point. Also if exchangers notice that you pumping a coin then they might ban your account along with the funds. Better not to do it.
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Yes it will work that is the pump and dump activity, many people gather and try to lure some big whale to participate in that activity and causing the price that they want, but since btc is too widely used it's too hard to manipulate it, the group usually seach for alt coin, and there are already prove everywhere where the price suddenly go up without any incident and the price will go down in an instance
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I also like to learn how to get maximum trading profit !! also want to earn a great deal. I hope you can send me a link. thank you and advance ..
If anyone wants to maximize profit, they should learn how to trade and stick with that and unless they are big whales coming together to call the shots, then there is really no reason coming together as small traders to think this will work. Also, whales will not even be announcing themselves, as they have all it takes to control the market to any spot they wish. Any other thing asides that, is going to end up as a pump and dump group and it sucked a long time ago.
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I was thinking on some news i read a couple days ago some news about the bitcoin price manipulation. What would happen if we make a coordinated trading whit a high number of tradings partners  explaining better buying and selling at the same time with all  tradings partners  buying will grow up the price and selling will down the price in some way the price will be predictable it could work better in low price cryptocurrency like NXT on USDT to manipulate the cryptocurrencys price a high amount of money is  necessary  but if we dont have a high amount of money we need many tradings partners operating at the same time it could get the maximum profit for all please tell me if it could work

That would be almost like a pump and dump group, but that is illegal and I don't really think that would be good for crypto, since we want to legitimize crypto, and using it in illegal manners wont get us there. Of course there are trading groups, where people try to analyze the market together, an eventually follow each others tips, and although that might end up being almost the same, it's different in principal and not illegal.
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This idea is fit for the current market situation because profit and loss is depend on the market situation when market goes down the coins are at their bottom and if you pick the coins from bottom you have to good option to sell at their high price because it is already you pick at bottom, I think if you can get any coin in this way you can get their good in return.
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I was thinking on some news i read a couple days ago some news about the bitcoin price manipulation. What would happen if we make a coordinated trading whit a high number of tradings partners  explaining better buying and selling at the same time with all  tradings partners  buying will grow up the price and selling will down the price in some way the price will be predictable it could work better in low price cryptocurrency like NXT on USDT to manipulate the cryptocurrencys price a high amount of money is  necessary  but if we dont have a high amount of money we need many tradings partners operating at the same time it could get the maximum profit for all please tell me if it could work
This is what called as Pump and Dump and I am totally against it. Besides that, it is really really tough to pump and dump BTC because it is the major pair of cryptocurrencies and is traded at high volume. So a huge amount of money is needed all together to pump and dump BTC. Apart from that, this so called pump and dump scheme won't workout for a long time since only the early investors/traders are the ones who would be able to get maximum profit and the ones who invest late in it will be bag holders who would have bought the coin at high prices. So eventually there will be no investors left to invest as most people would back off by facing continuous losses.

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March 18, 2018, 02:05:37 PM
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This is a pretty good problem. I also look forward to everyone's contribution to have more ideas for me. Having a business, we are interested in profit first. In my opinion, the best way to make a profit is to invest in business. Boldly buy bitcoin when its price is falling and many are worried and want to sell their bitcoin right away. Boldly buy in wait for the chance to come to you.
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I was thinking on some news i read a couple days ago some news about the bitcoin price manipulation. What would happen if we make a coordinated trading whit a high number of tradings partners  explaining better buying and selling at the same time with all  tradings partners  buying will grow up the price and selling will down the price in some way the price will be predictable it could work better in low price cryptocurrency like NXT on USDT to manipulate the cryptocurrencys price a high amount of money is  necessary  but if we dont have a high amount of money we need many tradings partners operating at the same time it could get the maximum profit for all please tell me if it could work
It is not new. That is more like creating a pump and dump group and normally, whoever is calling the shot is always the one enjoying the benefits. I am not sure anyone will be ready to go that road with you, unless you are just some group of whales with some huge amount of money or holding to play with the market, and if you have good knowledge of trading to play with how traders do their thing, then you should end up having a good win.
If you want to make the maximum trading profit, then the first thing which you need to realize is that the market does not remain the same all the time and that it keeps on changing in a way that the market value either increases or decreases. You need to be very much careful while dealing such things as this is the time which will either make you earn money or will take away your money.

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I see that one vote for "im" and three votes to "i" thats good, anyway..
For maximum trading profit you need to spend your maximum time.
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I was thinking on some news i read a couple days ago some news about the bitcoin price manipulation. What would happen if we make a coordinated trading whit a high number of tradings partners  explaining better buying and selling at the same time with all  tradings partners  buying will grow up the price and selling will down the price in some way the price will be predictable it could work better in low price cryptocurrency like NXT on USDT to manipulate the cryptocurrencys price a high amount of money is  necessary  but if we dont have a high amount of money we need many tradings partners operating at the same time it could get the maximum profit for all please tell me if it could work
That was actually the first thing that came on my mind after I red your main topic. But how many people is necessary for such manipulations and how can you trust to everybody when there is an opportunity to make a group inside of the group and simply get all the money? There are many points you need to think about before to make such plan to come true and it still can not be 100% successful variant for trading money making.
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I was thinking on some news i read a couple days ago some news about the bitcoin price manipulation. What would happen if we make a coordinated trading whit a high number of tradings partners  explaining better buying and selling at the same time with all  tradings partners  buying will grow up the price and selling will down the price in some way the price will be predictable it could work better in low price cryptocurrency like NXT on USDT to manipulate the cryptocurrencys price a high amount of money is  necessary  but if we dont have a high amount of money we need many tradings partners operating at the same time it could get the maximum profit for all please tell me if it could work

Of course it could work, this is what a pump and dump group is. Given that crypto is unregulated this is allowed (It's not allowed in more traditional markets) but you need to know that the people you're doing it with have deep enough pockets and are trustworthy. Someone can easily cash out before your target and then you're all left holding falling coins.

That is really true. This is what happens in the pump and dump group if you trust them too much. I have tried few of the telegram groups and they really suck in the way they work. They are like joke in the crypto world where people sell before the higher wall is reached because they get greedy about the investment they had and this can turn out to be loss for you. Its better to learn from your own experiences or at least from the experience of others, like me.  Tongue
The crypto is volatile and naturally it is pumping and dumping a lot so you can easily get your chance of investment by that way. There is no need to look for artificial opportunity like that.
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Analyse the every situation not only on the market but in economy, politics and so on. And of course get lucky)
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This market is like a jungle!
Fundamental analysis works better than technical analysis for me in there!


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I give a simple example; we have to practice a lot and exercise to drive fast cars. If a novice driver drives fast, she/he loses everything. The same goes for Traders, if an inexperienced trader wants to make too much profit he/she may lose everything.

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I was thinking on some news i read a couple days ago some news about the bitcoin price manipulation. What would happen if we make a coordinated trading whit a high number of tradings partners  explaining better buying and selling at the same time with all  tradings partners  buying will grow up the price and selling will down the price in some way the price will be predictable it could work better in low price cryptocurrency like NXT on USDT to manipulate the cryptocurrencys price a high amount of money is  necessary  but if we dont have a high amount of money we need many tradings partners operating at the same time it could get the maximum profit for all please tell me if it could work
It is not new. That is more like creating a pump and dump group and normally, whoever is calling the shot is always the one enjoying the benefits. I am not sure anyone will be ready to go that road with you, unless you are just some group of whales with some huge amount of money or holding to play with the market, and if you have good knowledge of trading to play with how traders do their thing, then you should end up having a good win.
Whales have an influential behavior in this field. Like you have said, creating pumps and dumps isn’t difficult unlit you are a man with hundreds and thousands of dollars invested in bitcoins. You may be assumed to have some impact on bitcoins world, their increasing and decreasing in prices. Join some groups where everyone is whale and you ultimately would have a better impact on price charts.
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Ok i was watching some dump and pump channels on telegram there are some guys they seems to be from Rusia they write his signals messages in Russian and english they use many channels and have many subscribers more than 100k maybe they made count down until the pump on the last signal message they write the name of the coin to pump and say buy and buy and hold for less the 10 minutes it doesn't work because they buy the coin before to write the name of the coin on his signal message the coin grow up before the signals and they just use his subscribers to get profit i think it could work giving the name of the coin and  placing buy orders and sell orders  at the same price  it could give the same profit for all
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March 25, 2018, 02:42:10 AM
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what you describe is exactly a pump and dump group , which there are a lot of. the issue with these groups is that most people won't make money , because there are always a couple of people who will sell over the back of other guys.
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March 25, 2018, 02:17:50 PM
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First you need to calm down. Take yourself in hand and wait until the price and the market stabilize, and only then talk about the benefits.
If you only mind the benefits your not gonna grow think of every single trades as a valuable assets to your mind and knowledge and keep everything attached in your mindset. If you think I'm talking nonsense ok then. Btw im talking about you from the start but mostly for OP.
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March 25, 2018, 04:22:04 PM
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I think patience is the key to get profit.Also you need a bit of luck for maximum profit.Sometimes waiting for 10-12 hours can make a difference of profit.So IMO patience can bring you good profit although sometimes it can be opposite also.
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by investing in a good project at a good price can be?
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First you need to calm down. Take yourself in hand and wait until the price and the market stabilize, and only then talk about the benefits.
If you only mind the benefits your not gonna grow think of every single trades as a valuable assets to your mind and knowledge and keep everything attached in your mindset. If you think I'm talking nonsense ok then. Btw im talking about you from the start but mostly for OP.
It's great not to be too greedy and not feel better than everyone, and then you will have the most success. But it is nevertheless better to have time to control the market, because only real online information will give you the opportunity to respond correctly to all market movements.

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I think patience is the key to get profit.Also you need a bit of luck for maximum profit.Sometimes waiting for 10-12 hours can make a difference of profit.So IMO patience can bring you good profit although sometimes it can be opposite also.
I will agree with your patience thing but luck, no brother it isn’t the case overtime. Yes this is fact that when you are lucky, on the day, that day will be so much delightful for you and things are getting better in your account. But this luck doesn’t seem involved in everyday trade. No, rather your skills and hard work have bigger impact than this luck factor. So do work, have good patience and get huge profit.
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April 08, 2018, 07:40:32 PM
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It is good question, to get maximum trading profit you must buy coin from dip and this time you have a good market situation to buy coins because it’s the best time to invest in for maximum chances because there are lot of coins are available which are too much down from there ICO price and all these have good profit in future,
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It is good question, to get maximum trading profit you must buy coin from dip and this time you have a good market situation to buy coins because it’s the best time to invest in for maximum chances because there are lot of coins are available which are too much down from there ICO price and all these have good profit in future,

It has been said and posted in here more than twenty times before, but no, it is not the best way to make a huge profit from a single trade.
You can not make profit just by buying low and selling high, you must know when to sell and when to buy, that is the only way to make a difference out of it




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April 22, 2018, 11:11:11 PM
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 Yes it good question I think the profit margin is depending upon the trading strategy which you are following I think the best idea for trading is long term trading and keep buying in 3 stages first when you have plan to buy and buy this coin and the second is when market goes more down keep buying this same coins and the third is when market is in full down price which is last down in price,
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I think one of the best strategy but according to good understanding to the market situation is day trading with good amount of bitcion you can earn good profit on basis in this way and you have a good journey of trade if market remain under prediction,


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You don't need to trade every day to get the maximum profit , just need to wait for the right moment then hunt , looking the chart and market every day is wasting energy and decreases efficiency , only 2 or 3 good trading per month could gives you more than enough , you just need to enter and exit in the right moment .


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I was thinking on some news i read a couple days ago some news about the bitcoin price manipulation. What would happen if we make a coordinated trading whit a high number of tradings partners  explaining better buying and selling at the same time with all  tradings partners  buying will grow up the price and selling will down the price in some way the price will be predictable it could work better in low price cryptocurrency like NXT on USDT to manipulate the cryptocurrencys price a high amount of money is  necessary  but if we dont have a high amount of money we need many tradings partners operating at the same time it could get the maximum profit for all please tell me if it could work

Look mate, I understand that you wanted to gain maximum profits in cryptocurrency trading. For you to do that, you need a lot of money to play with it. I just realized that only the whales can get the maximum profit as much as the want in the form of day trading and not long-term holding. For me, the whales are currently controlling the price when the market crashes, they are willing to dump their own so that the newbies would dump theirs for them to reach targeted buying price. That’s what I am understanding right now about getting maximum profit in trading.

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I don't think that anyone can do that in crypto because no one can predict if its price is already its highest or it could be more. You can only do is decide if the profit is already enough for you.
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I was thinking on some news i read a couple days ago some news about the bitcoin price manipulation. What would happen if we make a coordinated trading whit a high number of tradings partners  explaining better buying and selling at the same time with all  tradings partners  buying will grow up the price and selling will down the price in some way the price will be predictable it could work better in low price cryptocurrency like NXT on USDT to manipulate the cryptocurrencys price a high amount of money is  necessary  but if we dont have a high amount of money we need many tradings partners operating at the same time it could get the maximum profit for all please tell me if it could work
You are making a mistake. From what I understood, you mean if there is a way we can invest in various exchangers and be able to predict the next price whether it will be going down or up, that’s not possible. If such thing was possible, then I don’t think there would be any chance that someone who is into this would end up losing. The market is unpredictable and no one knows what will be the next price, because it is driven by the people which is by the rate of investment and the rate of supply.
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You don't need to trade every day to get the maximum profit , just need to wait for the right moment then hunt , looking the chart and market every day is wasting energy and decreases efficiency , only 2 or 3 good trading per month could gives you more than enough , you just need to enter and exit in the right moment .
For me, I believe that it’s good to be checking the price as often as possible, especially when you want to buy and sell. If you don’t want to be checking the price regularly, you can set a price notification to know when it hits a certain amount. If you don’t know the price, you can end up with investing at the wrong time. I’m not trying to convince you, we all have our own ways of doing things. This is how I do mine and it’s very helpful.

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April 29, 2018, 07:29:55 PM
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Well trading isn’t that simple, although patience is required. You need to spend some time on researching the coin before you go investing in it. This means asking others questions about what they think about the coin as well.

The most certain way of making the most profit is to learn some technical analysis, of course finding resources directly related to Bitcoin are hard, so you should just look at foreign exchange (forex) and stock TA, and you can translate those principles to work with crypto.
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April 29, 2018, 07:33:53 PM
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Well trading isn’t that simple, although patience is required. You need to spend some time on researching the coin before you go investing in it. This means asking others questions about what they think about the coin as well.

The most certain way of making the most profit is to learn some technical analysis, of course finding resources directly related to Bitcoin are hard, so you should just look at foreign exchange (forex) and stock TA, and you can translate those principles to work with crypto.
Technical analysis would really help you out in terms of trading which i do believe most people do really make use of it because we do know its usage and purpose which can give assumptions or studied analysis but it wont be enough if you wont able to put up some fundamentals which is one of the factors that should be seen on trading on crypto world.Prices do majorly reacts on news and other things that being announced.

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May 06, 2018, 09:11:07 AM
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Good Idea and this is going to work out perfectly and we should know that there most be a provisions to limit those that may want to dump and take advantage of other in other to limit greediness because that is what drive the market and we should not expect the changes of human mind about this.
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May 19, 2018, 01:38:43 PM
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I believe that in the sphere of the crypto-currency market, you can get the maximum profit by buying an undervalued coin with a great potential, which has not yet shown its growth and sell it at a profit several times!

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May 19, 2018, 02:23:08 PM
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The first thing I do when wake up is check the charts. The second thing I do is to hop on twitter —It’s the best way I know to instantly find out what’s happening in the markets.

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May 19, 2018, 02:28:49 PM
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I believe that in the sphere of the crypto-currency market, you can get the maximum profit by buying an undervalued coin with a great potential, which has not yet shown its growth and sell it at a profit several times!
It's really hard tbh. Most of the cryptocoin right now are "undervalued" but to determine those coins have great potential is really hard and you can't just do it in one try or such.

The most certain way of making the most profit is to learn some technical analysis, of course finding resources directly related to Bitcoin are hard, so you should just look at foreign exchange (forex) and stock TA, and you can translate those principles to work with crypto.
How Forex and Crypto determine the price is slightly different, where Crypto is more volatile than Forex that you should take care of it.

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May 19, 2018, 02:40:15 PM
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I believe that in the sphere of the crypto-currency market, you can get the maximum profit by buying an undervalued coin with a great potential, which has not yet shown its growth and sell it at a profit several times!
It's really hard tbh. Most of the cryptocoin right now are "undervalued" but to determine those coins have great potential is really hard and you can't just do it in one try or such.

The most certain way of making the most profit is to learn some technical analysis, of course finding resources directly related to Bitcoin are hard, so you should just look at foreign exchange (forex) and stock TA, and you can translate those principles to work with crypto.
How Forex and Crypto determine the price is slightly different, where Crypto is more volatile than Forex that you should take care of it.


Forex is very much different and you can always lose and win big with it since leverage is applied which you can't do it in crypto. The prices doesn't depend to the market's demand and supply but to the news and the manipulations of whales.

I never really get to profit to its maximum with bitcoin, but maybe buying the cheapest coins like Dentacoin or SC or doge but this will have to take years to see the price goes up.


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May 19, 2018, 03:13:28 PM
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The first thing I do when wake up is check the charts. The second thing I do is to hop on twitter —It’s the best way I know to instantly find out what’s happening in the markets.

The downside? There can be a lot of noise. Curate a list of accounts to follow, it will be an invaluable asset. Here are someof the best. I consider these my virtual mentors.
@crypto_rand @kazonomics  @notsofast 
Yes this is one of the smart technique to make profits in trading,we have to act fast as soon as the news discovered if there is some positive news about the cryptos then chance of getting bump and vice versa.But this may not work all the times and most of the times the prices were fell recently even we have positive news about crypto currencies.

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May 20, 2018, 12:39:19 AM
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If you are day trading do it with the help of charts and candles because by analyzing the charts we get the idea of entry and exit points and by knowing the entry and exit points you can get the maximum profits.
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May 25, 2018, 10:03:54 PM
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it's called Whale, because every Whale has a lot of Bitcoin and can manipulate the market.

will but I am sure it will not make more profit for the Whale because its profit is not maximal.

different from us, when we trade with 1 BTC, and profit 10%, then it's enough profit.
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June 24, 2018, 02:46:13 PM
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I think to get the maximum trading profit you should have a patience to wait in the right time comes because the last quarter of the year is the great opportunity to achieve that maximum profit.
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I think to get the maximum trading profit you should have a patience to wait in the right time comes because the last quarter of the year is the great opportunity to achieve that maximum profit.
That is right that we should wait for some time tell the price increase, but i think that there are so many under value coins which are currently trading in low price, but they have good potential and at any state its price can increase too much, therefore i think that searching for such coins and then investing your money there can also give you a good profit.

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June 24, 2018, 11:42:43 PM
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i think the best is to buy at lowest possible price and hold till it hits your set profit target price.
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June 25, 2018, 06:44:28 AM
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To get the maximum transaction you should choose the right time to trade the time is also the important factor to help us have more luck at that time in addition to the price agreement to get the maximum trading profit
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June 30, 2018, 10:23:55 PM
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To get the maximum transaction you should choose the right time to trade the time is also the important factor to help us have more luck at that time in addition to the price agreement to get the maximum trading profit

Well trading isn’t that simple, although patience is required. You need to spend some time on researching the coin before you go investing in it. This means asking others questions about what they think about the coin aswell.

The most obvious way is to buy at the bottom and sell at the top of the peak, but in order to be able to do this consistently you will need to learn some extensive technical analysis.
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July 06, 2018, 02:49:54 PM
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This method certainly works, but in order to do all this you need to find either a lot of people with a small stock of crypto currency or not many people with a big financial condition, and it's not so simple.
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July 10, 2018, 05:57:06 AM
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For me to get the maximum trading profit you should be familiarize to the flow of the business like when to buy and sell,
to achieve this goal you must hold your coin or investment and sell it, in the time that it have a high value in the market.
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July 10, 2018, 06:56:25 AM
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To get the maximum transaction you should choose the right time to trade the time is also the important factor to help us have more luck at that time in addition to the price agreement to get the maximum trading profit
it is correlated with tecnical analisys.if we learn and use it, we will get best place to entry to maximize our trade.our patience waiting best price to buy is needed too.

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July 10, 2018, 09:14:17 PM
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 Guidance from experienced people and ultimately Help you to learn how to get best of out of something. But still it seems like you are becoming a dependent fellow on someone. Don’t depant anyone. There are lot of trading tutorial on YouTube .I think this tutorial helps anyone to tarding.for my suggestion best way buy at lowest  price and hold it hits your set profit target price.
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July 10, 2018, 10:31:44 PM
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Guidance from experienced people and ultimately Help you to learn how to get best of out of something. But still it seems like you are becoming a dependent fellow on someone. Don’t depant anyone. There are lot of trading tutorial on YouTube .I think this tutorial helps anyone to tarding.for my suggestion best way buy at lowest  price and hold it hits your set profit target price.
Yes that can definitely work. In fact, this is what the whales exactly do, provided that they can be individual traders too. The pump and dump group also works like this. But in order to make this strategy work you need to have lot of trading partners some of which would probably be strangers for you. You never know they will work according to your wish or not. I mean some people can sell his holding before and you may suffer losses then
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July 21, 2018, 01:56:16 AM
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This method certainly works, but in order to do all this you need to find either a lot of people with a small stock of crypto currency or not many people with a big financial condition, and it's not so simple.

It's not simple and maybe a bit difficult to collect such a period by having a lot of capital too.
another thing with mining in China which has many quarries.

But I hope it does not need to be like that, let Bitcoin flow what it is, jagan until there is manipulation.
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July 21, 2018, 02:35:46 AM
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Thanks by your answers someone of you have some experience using some traders group and could you left the links of the traders groups you know
Control Emotions:
Productivity can be extremely helpful when starting to trade ,
Here are tips to help you learn to be productive,
Learn something new about trading,  May be you have wanted to learn more Iron Condors, Credit Spreads, or may be you have been wanting to learn more about RSI and MACD indicators, Well stop thinking about it and schedule some time to sit down and do the hardwork - pick up a book get some coaching, watch video tutorial.
Write a trading Business Plan, If you don't have one you need one and if you have one, you need to revised it monthly, These can always be improved, Take a section of your plan and think carefully about how you can improve it .
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July 21, 2018, 06:30:35 AM
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This is an example of a pump and dump activity. Basically, what a pump and dump group does is to make a price of a coin go high as many people are buying into it and selling as well. But these people you wish to partner with have a lot of cash and they cab decide to dump on you before the said target is reached. So, its better to be safe than sorry.
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August 22, 2018, 02:02:23 AM
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Never FOMO and greedy, never panic sell because there are always deep and bounce back. We have to learn price action of crypto to know when the price will be oversold and when will be overbought. Psychology of trading is biggest impact to make maximum profit so we have to manage our emotion.

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August 23, 2018, 03:51:34 PM
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You got your answers right on your finger tips. Invest, watch them grow, sell. Don't wait till an Altcoins goes back to square one and say " I wish I....! I have also learned one or two tips from your trading experience.
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August 23, 2018, 05:21:46 PM
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From your analysis, this would work very much perfectly but when their is much buying pressure, it means that the group wants to pump the price and this is pump and dump in my opinion. Better to learn how price action in Cryptos and trade profitably
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