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October 11, 2013, 07:55:42 AM
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Hello,

All my bitcoins are gone from my bitcoin address... Received an e-mail 10 minute ago here:

Transaction reference: 27fb49c7-72d4-4e88-9bb0-d2646d403e97
Date: 2013-10-11 07:43:40 GMT
IP: 209.21.68.151

How is that even possible? I have a very strong password and no viruses... Can't be true!

The IP is in California and I am in Switzerland. Jeez....
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October 11, 2013, 08:01:12 AM
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Perhaps the credentials of your email account or password manager are compromised?
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October 11, 2013, 08:04:57 AM
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I thought about that, but would be strange that the guy doesn't even change the password afterwards... And where would he have found my e-mail address?

That's too much to be true...
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October 11, 2013, 08:08:51 AM
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I thought about that, but would be strange that the guy doesn't even change the password afterwards... And where would he have found my e-mail address?

That's too much to be true...
Email provider should let you check last few IP addresses which accessed your account so you can double-check. (Usually in a "tools" or sometimes "settings" tab - though with smaller providers, you' may have to email support)
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October 11, 2013, 08:22:33 AM
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No connections whatsoever outside of Switzerland...
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October 11, 2013, 08:27:35 AM
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And I guess that MtGox will just tell me that it's my fault of course...
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October 11, 2013, 08:28:35 AM
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By the way, it was sent to: 155SfFNjcqVZdoHDM6M3uR1hSjJtuW3xRf

If anyone can help finding back the guy, I'll reward!
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October 11, 2013, 08:36:00 AM
Last edit: October 11, 2013, 09:01:06 AM by TheButterZone
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Well, it's not the first time it's been used... http://blockchain.info/address/155SfFNjcqVZdoHDM6M3uR1hSjJtuW3xRf

If I were MtGox, I'd log the accounts and IPs trying to withdraw to that address, and try to alert the account owners directly before the withdrawals are allowed to execute.

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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October 11, 2013, 08:38:30 AM
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Let me guess. No 2FA?

no viruses...

How would you even know that?
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October 11, 2013, 09:01:22 AM
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Let me guess. No 2FA?

no viruses...

How would you even know that?

Because I ran a full check with 4 different anti malware / anti virus tools?
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October 11, 2013, 09:15:24 AM
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Let me guess. No 2FA?

no viruses...

How would you even know that?

Because I ran a full check with 4 different anti malware / anti virus tools?

That would only protect you from common threats, which the highly specialiced trojans/keyloggers out for bitcoin exchange login data most definitely are not.

The only way to confidently deny the presence of bitcoin malware is if you'd exclusively accessed exchanges via a fresh and clean VM.
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October 11, 2013, 09:23:29 AM
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Let me guess. No 2FA?

no viruses...

How would you even know that?

Because I ran a full check with 4 different anti malware / anti virus tools?

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October 11, 2013, 12:42:46 PM
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Their stealing their money because your to stupid to secure your shit?  Interesting.   How many btc were taken?  Was your password 1234?

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October 11, 2013, 12:59:03 PM
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Their stealing their money because your to stupid to secure your shit?  Interesting.   How many btc were taken?  Was your password 1234?

No, I have a strong password. 3 BTCs were taken... Not that much but hey, that sucks...
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October 11, 2013, 02:54:23 PM
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Their stealing their money because your to stupid to secure your shit?  Interesting.   How many btc were taken?  Was your password 1234?

No, I have a strong password. 3 BTCs were taken... Not that much but hey, that sucks...

oh, you have a strong password.  that is all you have to say?  now I know its your own fault and not theirs.  typical end user.  ya, they are going to risk it all to steal 3 btc from you.   change the thread title to I don't understand how to use a computer, game over.

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October 16, 2013, 11:12:23 AM
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Well, I actually know how to use a computer...

Anyways, complaint has been open at the FBI, hope they find the guy :-)

At least I have an IP address to start with...
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October 16, 2013, 11:59:24 AM
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Did you have 2FA?

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October 16, 2013, 12:02:01 PM
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I believe you don't have 2FA? anyway bye bye 3 BTC. Most likely its hacker and not MTGOX Smiley

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October 16, 2013, 08:57:40 PM
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That would only protect you from common threats, which the highly specialiced trojans/keyloggers out for bitcoin exchange login data most definitely are not.
The only way to confidently deny the presence of bitcoin malware is if you'd exclusively accessed exchanges via a fresh and clean VM.

It wouldn't be enough if the host OS wasn't "fresh and clean" too.

It would probably be enough if he used the host OS exclusively for accessing exchanges and the guest OS for other Internet-interacting stuff. Though it may still be sometimes possible to compromise the host OS from the guest OS (or other guests if they aren't properly isolated).

http://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-usa-09/KORTCHINSKY/BHUSA09-Kortchinsky-Cloudburst-PAPER.pdf
http://media.blackhat.com/bh-us-11/Elhage/BH_US_11_Elhage_Virtunoid_WP.pdf

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October 17, 2013, 11:30:15 PM
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Hello,

All my bitcoins are gone from my bitcoin address... Received an e-mail 10 minute ago here:

Transaction reference: 27fb49c7-72d4-4e88-9bb0-d2646d403e97
Date: 2013-10-11 07:43:40 GMT
IP: 209.21.68.151

How is that even possible? I have a very strong password and no viruses... Can't be true!

The IP is in California and I am in Switzerland. Jeez....

Just did a quick check and this might help too, looks like a gmail user is connected to that IP for sending spam for the site discountflitflopshoes.com:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:g2xvH6u5lVMJ:http://cleantalk.org/blacklists/discountflitflopshoes.com%2B209.21.68.151

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