Literally everyone FUDding Bitcoin just wants to get cheaper

[Febo]

I can sense the salt in the air. Notice how everytime Bitcoin pumps, you get an army of people saying "we are going lower". These guys have been watching the price since August (remember in August we were at 3000 and already voices of "it's going to crash" were being heard). A lot of people sold in August, and watched the rally to $20k on the sidelines. These people are now extremely SALTY at the fact that they missed the boat, and don't get fooled, no one thinks Bitcoin is dead and no one thinks the shitcoin being usually promoted by these guys is the future, they just want the price to go down to buy cheaper.

Everyone telling you that Bitcoin is going to stagnate now forever or that this or that shitcoin will take over the #1 spot is a scammer that wants your bitcoins for a cheaper price.

I wonder how many Bitcoins proudhon have then . He is FUDing bitcoin for like 7 years here. You speculate he was buying all the time? $1  and $20000 BTCs?

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[sjefdeklerk]

You guys never heard of short selling? I'm short most of the time so I want BTC to go lower most of the time. But I'm short because a reason and that's that I don't see any future for bitcoin. So I'm just posting my perspective of things. Just like the long people post their perspective (mostly something like "buy bitcoin because it will ALWAYS go up"). So I'm not really sure what the reason is behind this topic. Longs want the price to go up, shorts to go down, what's new here?

[Getcoinsite]

I guess its their job to spread those FUD's and I wonder if their commander is kwukduck. But I'm not going to generalize most of them, some are just newbies and are scared to lose at the dip hoping that they'll get lambo and be rich by just buying bitcoin and will not experience these corrections. But the sad fact that combining these people who are real FUD'ers and those newbies, they are making the price lower to make others worried about their holdings.

yups,theres. A troll everywhere,maybe this guys paid higher just to campaign the Fuds,imagine when the bitcoin price has just drop hundred bucks and here this fuders start spreding the word,and those damn weak hands as they heard the words,instantly sell their coin without clarifying the issue.and at the end price drops happens

[sjefdeklerk]

yups,theres. A troll everywhere,maybe this guys paid higher just to campaign the Fuds,imagine when the bitcoin price has just drop hundred bucks and here this fuders start spreding the word,and those damn weak hands as they heard the words,instantly sell their coin without clarifying the issue.and at the end price drops happens

And who cares about that anyway? Do you really those weak hands with their 0.02 BTC accounts make ANY difference in price? Or do you think whales visit this forum and base their opinion on what they read here?

[whirlcoin]

We can't do anything about these FUDers because they holds the media so they can convey the message as they want and whales are using media to bump and dump the coins so the smart people need to utilize that whales strategy into ours too buy buying the coins when the price.is crashing.

[Denker]

There's definitely some truth to what you say but I don't think it is entirely that. I do feel there are some people who truly believe what they are saying and that's only natural. It would be alarming if everyone involved in bitcoin thought the price would go up indefinitely. Even having only been here for less than a year I've already seen how this happens and how doom and gloom are used to manipulate people. I can only imagine how tiresome it must be for those people who've been around much longer.

Of course there are even really good traders who believe we could go down to 5k and lower.
But that doesn't mean, that it's going to happen or that you should listen to them.
Even the best traders are more often wrong as one may think. However these guys are not shouting out the doom into the public, just in trading groups where they are hanhing out with other traders and discussing possible outcomes etc.
The guys we're generally talking about, who spread all that "Bitcoin is done and goes down to 1k or lower", "it's a fraud and will fail" yada yada,  use social media and MSM just to influence the newbies and small investors in this space. So in that case it really is 99% FUD and the attempt of manipulation. And often it works out as many people react very emotionally.
If you know that and can resist, you just watch it happen and wait for the opportunities to buy more coins when others are freaking out. Or just wait for the price to reverse and do nothing.
But hodling isn't easy. It takes time to learn and withstand all that created FUD and selling pressure. But over the years you recognize all that stuff repeating again and again.

[BillyBobZorton]

There are even professionals in the fudding game; Polish national bank paid a youtuber 30 000 EUR for FUD. Largest player IMHO at the moment is Bitfinexed, who seems to work for US based, anti-crypto stakeholders 

He also sold his coins at $2000. I guess he is not alone. Lots of coiners sold their coins at those prices and would love to get back in...

Yeah I remember that. A lot of people are making a living by accepting payment by attackers. I've known stories of people accepting payments to promote FUD against Bitcoin and present Bitcoin as dead while pumping this other one "new coin" as the new Bitcoin, for example, many scammers on Youtube are promoting IOTA and Hashgraph as projects that are "more advanced than Bitcoin" and will therefore replace it, among other scammy claims.

But governments getting into this misleading-game of disinformation at the youtuber level was new to me. It shows that they are trying to do as much as possible to stop the fiat leak into Bitcoin

[batang_bitcoin]

I guess its their job to spread those FUD's and I wonder if their commander is kwukduck. But I'm not going to generalize most of them, some are just newbies and are scared to lose at the dip hoping that they'll get lambo and be rich by just buying bitcoin and will not experience these corrections. But the sad fact that combining these people who are real FUD'ers and those newbies, they are making the price lower to make others worried about their holdings.

yups,theres. A troll everywhere,maybe this guys paid higher just to campaign the Fuds,imagine when the bitcoin price has just drop hundred bucks and here this fuders start spreding the word,and those damn weak hands as they heard the words,instantly sell their coin without clarifying the issue.and at the end price drops happens

There are trolls that aren't paid but happy to spread false information throughout the web. It's either they are holding other altcoins and they miss the train of riding the dip and they are now at losses because bitcoin is getting lower and their alts are also affected. We all know that there are many whales that are also doing this and giving their statements for the sake of their opinion and idea that are even published and reported by the mass bias media.

[Casdinyard]

yups,theres. A troll everywhere,maybe this guys paid higher just to campaign the Fuds,imagine when the bitcoin price has just drop hundred bucks and here this fuders start spreding the word,and those damn weak hands as they heard the words,instantly sell their coin without clarifying the issue.and at the end price drops happens

And who cares about that anyway? Do you really those weak hands with their 0.02 BTC accounts make ANY difference in price? Or do you think whales visit this forum and base their opinion on what they read here?

Definitely whales are not after here nor our opinions because they'll spread fud or pay trollers if they want to buy in cheap price and when they're done accumulating and when everyone dump their coins they'll release some good news and the graph suddenly goes green. That's why those who easily gets panic will hate themselves later on.

[Slash61]

Yes, business is business, maybe that proverb can describe the situation now. Fuds are causing its fall in prices, it could be their strategy in investing for investors to panic and sell their shares. But I am sure this will not last long, IMO FUD has a short time limit.

[aceptamosbitcoin]

I'm not from those who are fudding bitcoin, but I frankly I would't mind if the price fall to $3K for some short time.

And yes - it's to buy more. And you can't blame me for that I want more cheap coins like everybody else. Because I'm here for the long game.

[alyssa85]

You guys never heard of short selling? I'm short most of the time so I want BTC to go lower most of the time. But I'm short because a reason and that's that I don't see any future for bitcoin. So I'm just posting my perspective of things. Just like the long people post their perspective (mostly something like "buy bitcoin because it will ALWAYS go up"). So I'm not really sure what the reason is behind this topic. Longs want the price to go up, shorts to go down, what's new here?

I'm not sure there is a future for bitcoin either. I sold quite a bit in December, and I'm glad now - at the time I thought I might be missing out on future gains, but the merchants abandoning bitcoin decided me.

[1Referee]

I'm not sure there is a future for bitcoin either. I sold quite a bit in December, and I'm glad now - at the time I thought I might be missing out on future gains, but the merchants abandoning bitcoin decided me.

That's a non reason. The merchants who dropped Bitcoin as payment option did so purely because of the fact that barely anyone is using his coins to pay with, and that you can't blame Bitcoin for. It was obvious from the very beginnin that this was bound to happen. Merchants stating that the higher fees and the volatility were the reason for them to ditch Bitcoin, are nothing more than liars. They falsely try to justify their actions by naming up volatility and high fees to be the main reason. Volatility firstly isn't a concern since they use payment gateways to take care of the volatility exposure, and the fees were going to increase anyway, and especially if the market suddenly exploded, which it did.

[imapessimist]

I don't know why people listen to all this fud.  They need to watch the price and wait till every number is red and then buy.  Say now the price is around 9K so it wouldn't be a huge mistake to buy at this but I would wait for a lower price because it might go either way at the present time.  But it would be crazy to wait till say 11.5 and then think oh I must buy.  No if you were going to buy you should have bought at 9 or even 8.5.

[harizen]

I can sense the salt in the air. Notice how everytime Bitcoin pumps, you get an army of people saying "we are going lower". These guys have been watching the price since August (remember in August we were at 3000 and already voices of "it's going to crash" were being heard). A lot of people sold in August, and watched the rally to $20k on the sidelines. These people are now extremely SALTY at the fact that they missed the boat, and don't get fooled, no one thinks Bitcoin is dead and no one thinks the shitcoin being usually promoted by these guys is the future, they just want the price to go down to buy cheaper.

Everyone telling you that Bitcoin is going to stagnate now forever or that this or that shitcoin will take over the #1 spot is a scammer that wants your bitcoins for a cheaper price.

That is already a part of bitcoin ecosystem so I think we just have to be used to it as sometimes we are getting benefits there too especially for waiting on another entry level. Since bitcoin inception, FUD'S are everywhere and will alwaya be there. And still, bitcoin is standing strong and supported and gaining an increase in term of number of users. In the first place, those FUDsters doesn't literally have a goal to take bitcoin down but rather just want a piece of a so-called "manipulation" thing on a primary goal.

People especially those newcomers must learned not to be dragged on any FUD attempt that will result on regret. They just have to engaged regularly in crypto world to make used on it.

[lingwistiko]

That's what exactly the theory behind FUDs. They spread it around the internet, the social media and forums like this as well so as to make people worried about bitcoin's future and their investment. So when these weak minds and hands sell their tokens out of fear, the price of bitcoin and other cryptos are affected as well giving them chance to buy them at a very cheap price.

[BrewMaster]

I don't know why people listen to all this fud.  They need to watch the price and wait till every number is red and then buy.  Say now the price is around 9K so it wouldn't be a huge mistake to buy at this but I would wait for a lower price because it might go either way at the present time.  But it would be crazy to wait till say 11.5 and then think oh I must buy.  No if you were going to buy you should have bought at 9 or even 8.5.

that's easier said than done.
when it comes to reality and when you actually want to do it, you will start thinking twice, then get doubtful and eventually greed kicks in. what FUD does is that it hastens this process.
and if we are talking about a newbie then they just jump into the end stage and hold off buying until it is too late. that is why there isn't that much buying happening right now. all the FUD is messing with people's heads

[MiningBattalion]

Everyone needs bitcoin for their future. So they want to buy huge amount of bitcoin in short period with low price. And this may be the reason for the people want to buy a bitcoin at low rate. If you buy at low rate and automatically when price increase,you get more profit.

[glowing10]

We can't do anything about these FUDers because they holds the media so they can convey the message as they want and whales are using media to bump and dump the coins so the smart people need to utilize that whales strategy into ours too buy buying the coins when the price.is crashing.

Media play a very vital role in either building a story or crashing it. Same had happened in my country where the government stance was something different trend media interpreted something else and this created a panic in the market and the prices crashed badly due to false reports.