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October 16, 2013, 04:40:55 AM
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Thanks for the help 



     

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October 16, 2013, 06:47:46 AM
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October 16, 2013, 06:57:52 AM
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Learn to love this bomb: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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October 16, 2013, 05:15:58 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=22434.0


What about this ??

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October 16, 2013, 05:18:02 PM
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Or you could use a casino? They will pay your fees a lot of the time, when amount is greater than a minimum.

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October 16, 2013, 05:26:55 PM
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I do it my way. To be run on a unix console, requires bitcoind. It's basically a coin control utility.
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October 17, 2013, 03:22:00 AM
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hum

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October 17, 2013, 04:25:56 AM
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The best way is to send a whole bunch at once (like 20+ BTC). The larger the amount, the higher the priority, and less likely you will be prompted for a fee. If using Bitcoin-Qt, you will be prompted that a fee is necessary when it IS necessary. The official client knows the rules that miners enforce, because they use the same software, so it is not a good idea to create transactions without the proper fee unless you like your money not getting to the destination.
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October 17, 2013, 04:29:02 AM
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You can use inputs.io (or similar service) but its only transaction fee free for internal transactions.

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October 17, 2013, 06:39:04 AM
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A transaction may be safely sent without fees if these conditions are met:

    It is smaller than 10,000 bytes.
    All outputs are 0.01 BTC or larger.
    Its priority is large enough (see the Technical Info section below)

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October 17, 2013, 03:07:35 PM
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good luck getting confirmations with that. Roll Eyes

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October 17, 2013, 07:10:58 PM
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A transaction may be safely sent without fees if these conditions are met:

    It is smaller than 10,000 bytes.
    All outputs are 0.01 BTC or larger.
    Its priority is large enough (see the Technical Info section below)

Are you find It logical ??

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October 17, 2013, 07:12:53 PM
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Paper wallet by mail. The stamp is your transaction fee.
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October 17, 2013, 07:18:59 PM
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I thought Especially 1btc is divided into (satoshis)

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October 17, 2013, 07:24:15 PM
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For small amounts, I prefere it to pay more than the amount sent

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October 17, 2013, 07:55:46 PM
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A transaction may be safely sent without fees if these conditions are met:

    It is smaller than 10,000 bytes.
    All outputs are 0.01 BTC or larger.
    Its priority is large enough (see the Technical Info section below)
Are you find It logical ??

Yes. I are find It very logical.  You?
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October 17, 2013, 10:19:33 PM
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A transaction may be safely sent without fees if these conditions are met:

    It is smaller than 10,000 bytes.
    All outputs are 0.01 BTC or larger.
    Its priority is large enough (see the Technical Info section below)
Are you find It logical ??

Yes. I are find It very logical.  You?

Not really, it implies that large transactions should cost less than small ones which is a bit odd IMO.

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October 17, 2013, 10:34:04 PM
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A transaction may be safely sent without fees if these conditions are met:

    It is smaller than 10,000 bytes.
    All outputs are 0.01 BTC or larger.
    Its priority is large enough (see the Technical Info section below)
Are you find It logical ??

Yes. I are find It very logical.  You?

Not really, it implies that large transactions should cost less than small ones which is a bit odd IMO.
It implies that spamming the blockchain and relay nodes with trivial amounts of bitcoins should cost money.
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October 17, 2013, 10:38:25 PM
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A transaction may be safely sent without fees if these conditions are met:

    It is smaller than 10,000 bytes.
    All outputs are 0.01 BTC or larger.
    Its priority is large enough (see the Technical Info section below)
Are you find It logical ??
Yes. I are find It very logical.  You?
Not really, it implies that large transactions should cost less than small ones which is a bit odd IMO.

I disagree, I think you are misunderstanding what the transaction fees are accomplishing.

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It is smaller than 10,000 bytes.

This makes sure that transactions that use a lot of bytes pay higher fees.  This is the valuable resource that is being paid for, space in the blockchain.

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All outputs are 0.01 BTC or larger.
Its priority is large enough (see the Technical Info section below)

There is a minimum size in bytes required for a transaction.  This fee forces those who would otherwise spam the network with an extrememly large number of worthless transactions to pay for the excessive amount of space they are using in the blockchain, and for the excessive amount of peer bandwidth they are using.

It is a bit like walking into a car dealership and trying to pay for your brand new car with pennies.  The dealership is going to charge extra (a fee) to handle all those pennies.



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October 18, 2013, 08:18:56 AM
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I think the best way is using online wallet, look at my sig for one.

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