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March 29, 2018, 09:34:02 PM
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Lol yeah right ! There are sell orders below 10 sats  probably the devs...  and now the sell orders are stacked up at 10sats good luck selling ... only hope is an exchange like tradeorge to open back up fair market or else this is likely a exit scam move by the dev's...
Your words is a lie!

I will take several weeks/days to find buyer at 10 sat (if any) Tongue Tongue Tongue
Current mining "profit" is 3.13 USD/day per 1KH/S... but you should sell coins first Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed

PS: I am ready to sell at 6-9 sat but it is not possible = no happy buyer and no happy seller (me) = elya makes people unhappy Tongue Tongue Tongue (it is a joke)
Don't be a dumper and Elya will make you happy) 10 satoshi is great idea!

There are only 2 transactions on exchange for today ..... for ... 0.00027969 (around 2 USD)  Grin Grin Grin

Buy   0.00000010   1796.90000000   0.00017969   29.03.18 05:31:52
Buy   0.00000010   1000.00000000   0.00010000   29.03.18 03:53:39

How long will it take to sell 12230000.56215730 coins    for 1.22300005 BTC?HuhHuh?
Actually trading is stuck Huh Huh Huh Huh

Is there any other idea or view on this fact? Huh


TYPE   PRICE PER ELYA   ELYA AMOUNT   BTC AMOUNT   DATE
Buy   0.00000010   3469.87000000   0.00034698   29.03.18 20:29:41
Buy   0.00000010   71789.79000000   0.00717897   29.03.18 20:29:41
Buy   0.00000010   9670.75277066   0.00096707   29.03.18 20:29:41
Buy   0.00000010   2438.13272150   0.00024381   29.03.18 20:29:41
Buy   0.00000010   8525.66000000   0.00085256   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   5179.84000000   0.00051798   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   409.99000000   0.00004099   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   125164.62361467   0.01251646   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   55164.62361467   0.00551646   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   35164.62361467   0.00351646   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   4000.00000000   0.00040000   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   27101.24142857   0.00271012   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   2789.37223526   0.00027893   29.03.18 20:29:39
Buy   0.00000010   14183.98000000   0.00141839   29.03.18 20:29:39
Buy   0.00000010   22480.00000000   0.00224800   29.03.18 20:29:39
Buy   0.00000010   21.00000000   0.00000210   29.03.18 20:00:31
Buy   0.00000010   5712.18443143   0.00057121   29.03.18 19:56:00
Buy   0.00000010   7283.72556857   0.00072837   29.03.18 19:55:59
Buy   0.00000010   3959.62000000   0.00039596   29.03.18 19:55:59
Buy   0.00000010   999.99000000   0.00009999   29.03.18 19:55:59
Buy   0.00000010   8044.48000000   0.00080444   29.03.18 19:55:59
Buy   0.00000010   13131.00000000   0.00131310   29.03.18 19:55:47
Buy   0.00000010   13131.00000000   0.00131310   29.03.18 19:53:38
Buy   0.00000010   26262.00000000   0.00262620   29.03.18 19:53:10
Buy   0.00000010   17664.75556857   0.00176647   29.03.18 19:52:55
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March 30, 2018, 04:53:41 AM
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Get 1 free simcard (worth 35$) for place 1 to 10 with a proof (screenshot) of request to receive our coin on www.coinexchange.io

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HOWTO:
1. go to www.coinexchange.io login/or creat a Account
2. write a support ticket with the request to list elya
3. take a screenshot for proof 
4. go to #invite-bountie
5. create an invite link - check the box "never expired"!
6. Tell the world about Elya!

just enter " !invites " to see your stats

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March 30, 2018, 07:13:03 AM
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Lol yeah right ! There are sell orders below 10 sats  probably the devs...  and now the sell orders are stacked up at 10sats good luck selling ... only hope is an exchange like tradeorge to open back up fair market or else this is likely a exit scam move by the dev's...
Your words is a lie!

I will take several weeks/days to find buyer at 10 sat (if any) Tongue Tongue Tongue
Current mining "profit" is 3.13 USD/day per 1KH/S... but you should sell coins first Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed

PS: I am ready to sell at 6-9 sat but it is not possible = no happy buyer and no happy seller (me) = elya makes people unhappy Tongue Tongue Tongue (it is a joke)
Don't be a dumper and Elya will make you happy) 10 satoshi is great idea!

There are only 2 transactions on exchange for today ..... for ... 0.00027969 (around 2 USD)  Grin Grin Grin

Buy   0.00000010   1796.90000000   0.00017969   29.03.18 05:31:52
Buy   0.00000010   1000.00000000   0.00010000   29.03.18 03:53:39

How long will it take to sell 12230000.56215730 coins    for 1.22300005 BTC?HuhHuh?
Actually trading is stuck Huh Huh Huh Huh

Is there any other idea or view on this fact? Huh


TYPE   PRICE PER ELYA   ELYA AMOUNT   BTC AMOUNT   DATE
Buy   0.00000010   3469.87000000   0.00034698   29.03.18 20:29:41
Buy   0.00000010   71789.79000000   0.00717897   29.03.18 20:29:41
Buy   0.00000010   9670.75277066   0.00096707   29.03.18 20:29:41
Buy   0.00000010   2438.13272150   0.00024381   29.03.18 20:29:41
Buy   0.00000010   8525.66000000   0.00085256   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   5179.84000000   0.00051798   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   409.99000000   0.00004099   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   125164.62361467   0.01251646   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   55164.62361467   0.00551646   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   35164.62361467   0.00351646   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   4000.00000000   0.00040000   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   27101.24142857   0.00271012   29.03.18 20:29:40
Buy   0.00000010   2789.37223526   0.00027893   29.03.18 20:29:39
Buy   0.00000010   14183.98000000   0.00141839   29.03.18 20:29:39
Buy   0.00000010   22480.00000000   0.00224800   29.03.18 20:29:39
Buy   0.00000010   21.00000000   0.00000210   29.03.18 20:00:31
Buy   0.00000010   5712.18443143   0.00057121   29.03.18 19:56:00
Buy   0.00000010   7283.72556857   0.00072837   29.03.18 19:55:59
Buy   0.00000010   3959.62000000   0.00039596   29.03.18 19:55:59
Buy   0.00000010   999.99000000   0.00009999   29.03.18 19:55:59
Buy   0.00000010   8044.48000000   0.00080444   29.03.18 19:55:59
Buy   0.00000010   13131.00000000   0.00131310   29.03.18 19:55:47
Buy   0.00000010   13131.00000000   0.00131310   29.03.18 19:53:38
Buy   0.00000010   26262.00000000   0.00262620   29.03.18 19:53:10
Buy   0.00000010   17664.75556857   0.00176647   29.03.18 19:52:55

Is there any "extra" agreement with stock.exchange to execute dev's sale orders first?) maybe it is second part of your "business" model => fix price on exchange and sell yours.
I am ready to sell my coins cheaper but it is not allowed by "community" decision... it looks like "free" and competitive market in North Korea)
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March 30, 2018, 08:25:35 AM
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Lol yeah right ! There are sell orders below 10 sats  probably the devs...  and now the sell orders are stacked up at 10sats good luck selling ... only hope is an exchange like tradeorge to open back up fair market or else this is likely a exit scam move by the dev's...
Your words is a lie!

Colegue C421, why You call a liar someone who express his own opinion? Do You have maybe some additional information about this? Share them, please. Maybe We do not see it.
What strategy developers plan to use to motivate the buyers to pay 10 satoshies per coin? Probably they have some ideas how to start trading.
Unfortunately, now there is almost no trading at all.
We all want higher prices for Elya, but how much are buyers ready to pay?
  
He is lying about a scam. Based on his own opinion without proof. Stocks.exchange work fine. Mining work fine. I guess there would be an opportunity he would require a sale on 0.000000001. I think he is just dumper from Nicehash. IMHO.

I see several week points:
1) Difficulty algo - it reacts too slowly for hashrate changes - most of the coins use more progressive approach.
2) "I think he is just dumper from Nicehash" - why you are so negative?? dumper just for opportinity to sell coins on exchange?Huh? from Nicehash... Maybe devs made a mistake with point 1) which allows to grab a lot of coins with cloud mining and after it small miners pays a bill??? who is guilty for it???)))
 

Oh yes. You certainly did not hear anything about the exploit in Cryptonote, which allows cheaters to use botnet, ASICs and Nicehash. Karbo urgently does hardfork these days. Take an interest, how many yesterday these cheaters were mined from the "air" Sumo and Karbo. These cheaters are mined and other CN coins. But that's bad luck, they can not sell Elya for 1 satoshi, because the developers acted wisely and limited the minimum threshold for dumping.
Therefore, all who are now crying that you can not sell cheaper than 10 it's possible those same cheaters.
P.S. Sorry for my English. Google Translate (c) Smiley
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March 30, 2018, 08:49:41 AM
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Yes, I heard at the first time some facts:
1) "exploit in Cryptonote allows cheaters to use botnet" - maybe some hackers are guilty and users who save money on anti-virus tools???
2) ASIC = cheater? It means that BTC mining is one big cheat Lips sealed
3) Nicehash = cheat? It is a service for which people pay money... it is a fault of coin developer which not use proper difficulty algo.

@But that's bad luck, they can not sell Elya for 1 satoshi@ => OK, they put orders for 10 sat, and still can not sell?Huh Lips sealed Lips sealed Lips sealed
It is just prove of my previos post:
Is there any "extra" agreement with stock.exchange to execute dev's sale orders first?) maybe it is second part of your "business" model => fix price on exchange and sell yours.
I am ready to sell my coins cheaper but it is not allowed by "community" decision... it looks like "free" and competitive market in North Korea)
 

 
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Yes, I heard at the first time some facts:
1) "exploit in Cryptonote allows cheaters to use botnet" - maybe some hackers are guilty and users who save money on anti-virus tools???
2) ASIC = cheater? It means that BTC mining is one big cheat Lips sealed
3) Nicehash = cheat? It is a service for which people pay money... it is a fault of coin developer which not use proper difficulty algo.

@But that's bad luck, they can not sell Elya for 1 satoshi@ => OK, they put orders for 10 sat, and still can not sell?Huh Lips sealed Lips sealed Lips sealed
It is just prove of my previos post:
Is there any "extra" agreement with stock.exchange to execute dev's sale orders first?) maybe it is second part of your "business" model => fix price on exchange and sell yours.
I am ready to sell my coins cheaper but it is not allowed by "community" decision... it looks like "free" and competitive market in North Korea)
 

 
Yes. ASIC is death for the decentralization of CryptoNote. The idea of CryptoNote was to create a protocol that does not allow ASICs (decentralization). NiceHash is practically a botnet for the network. And yes, the miners using now ASICs and botnets with NiceHash are equal to cheaters, because they use a vulnerability in the protocol that allows them to replace the time stamps. In other words, the difficulty of the network does not increase for them and they just roll up coins, while all other CPU/GPU miners get crumbs.

It is just prove of my previous post: all who are now crying that they can not sell cheaper than 10 it's possible those same cheaters.

Nobody pulls you by the ears and forces you to use this coin. Do not like it, there are many other coins.
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March 30, 2018, 05:21:45 PM
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We don't like it and there are many coin yes indeed but we are miners and mine for PROFIT  (maybe that's a shock to you idk) if we cant sell our mined coins those days spent minning this fucken coin are lost... Miners DON'T MINE FOR FREE .. Nor do they want to wait Days maybe weeks for their coins to sell at a FORCED sale price ... volume was $600 yesterday (not joking) .... you think miners are cheaters because they want to sell ? other coins are down in price maybe they and I want to sell to BUY SOMETHING ELSE !!! which is our right, their our coins we should be able to sell them whenever and for whatever the market says PERIOD ! NOT THE DEVS NOT THE EXCHANGE
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March 30, 2018, 06:25:38 PM
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Yes. ASIC is death for the decentralization of CryptoNote. The idea of CryptoNote was to create a protocol that does not allow ASICs (decentralization). NiceHash is practically a botnet for the network. And yes, the miners using now ASICs and botnets with NiceHash are equal to cheaters, because they use a vulnerability in the protocol that allows them to replace the time stamps. In other words, the difficulty of the network does not increase for them and they just roll up coins, while all other CPU/GPU miners get crumbs.

It is just prove of my previous post: all who are now crying that they can not sell cheaper than 10 it's possible those same cheaters.


I can agree that ASIC producers are cancer for coins. Only Bitmain earn last year around 4 billion (and probably much more, because it is impossible to control how much they mine prior of selling their "new" units)!!! 
But for the first time We can see that community action result with antiASIC fork of Cryptonight. All major coins will switch (Monero, Sumo, GRAFT, IPBC...) so those Cryptonight ASICs will be only luxuries doorstops.

Conclusion what You make in last quoted sentence are not sustainable.
I would really like to sell my ELYAs for 10 or more satoshies, but it is impossible now. Could I sell it ever for 10 satoshies? Is there any guarantee that it would be possible? There is a lot of cryptonight coins like TurtleCoin or BBScoin, what is impossible to sell, now. No one want to buy it. You can HODL it forever, like a souvenir. That is the reason why I am ready to sell it for lower price, accept the lower profit (just a little above the spent electricity). I am not ready to speculate with coin price.
Unfortunately with this strange price FIX it is impossible.


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March 31, 2018, 06:27:16 AM
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Number of sales orders and level volume at 10 sat is not growing. Cool Cool Cool
Why??? ... I have my last 2 deposit pending during 14 hours . These transfers were made using "address book" in the wallet (previous 5 transfers were OK).
Extra agreement with exchange to stop deposits?

PS: decision to fix price at 10 sat is killing coin. No trade volume, No ability to sell coins and stupid agrument of developers "elya worth far more then 10 sat because we shape the coin of mobility which is fueling the balance of your stealth communications. Sell price is 10 sat mini because value of a simcard is 35$ (480000 elyA that we discount 29000 to the community this week)" looks like waste of miners electricity and time.
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March 31, 2018, 10:07:55 AM
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Good day. Tell me about the stock exchange. How much time does it take to transfer money from the purse to the exchange? In the morning I made a transfer, and the coins have not yet arrived. The support service on the exchange is silent. Thank you.https://cdn1.savepice.ru/uploads/2018/3/31/c23f51af90dab314d9f0ab9f0d5b2841-full.png
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March 31, 2018, 10:50:24 AM
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Free trade is open now on StockExchange. Smart decision, I hope that quality of this project will defend the stock price.  Wink
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March 31, 2018, 11:08:02 AM
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Free trade is open now on StockExchange. Smart decision, I hope that quality of this project will defend the stock price.  Wink
They opened it, but the coins do not enter the exchange.
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March 31, 2018, 03:47:41 PM
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they just lowered it to 5 sats its not fully open I bet the dev sold some @ 10 and realized no one was buying  at that price why would they really poor suckers that did !!! .... they (the devs) are trying to get as much money as possible cant wait to sell and never look back !
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March 31, 2018, 04:40:06 PM
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Elya is the coin of mobility.

The intrinsic worth of a coin is far more then 10 sat because our simcards and service of international roaming and 3G services exist since 2009 and we are now coining with you the currency of stealth communications.
What makes this coin unique on the market :
- Elya is not another project on the shelf with a business plan sold through ico after presale. Elya is already an existing company selling simcards and roaming services.
- our company already served over 400.000 customers : churners changing their lives, expats, businessmen, tourists, sailors. Pilots, globe trotters, governments reps, forensic, anti terror units, anti kidnapping units.
- the founders know each other since 20 years
- the team is now opening to new members from the young community of Elya Coin
Members of the community can actually represent Elya services in their own country sell the service, receive profits from the sim and the airtime, increase assets from the value of the coin, from mining, from staking masternode (pos to be discussed today)

However On proposal of a member of the community Elya asked Stocks.Exchange to set the price at a minimum value of 5 which was accepted by the exchange but for some reason the price was set by the exchange at 10 sat instead of the 5 sat asked.

SE mistake was immediately corrected by the exchange after we advocated the cause of the miners.

Our advise is HODL. Don't mine for free. Don't work for tips. Our team is growing and working without rest for the coin of mobility and we will make you hopefully rich and happy.
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March 31, 2018, 05:51:22 PM
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However On proposal of a member of the community Elya asked Stocks.Exchange to set the price at a minimum value of 5 which was accepted by the exchange but for some reason the price was set by the exchange at 10 sat instead of the 5 sat asked.

SE mistake was immediately corrected by the exchange after we advocated the cause of the miners.
I call Bs on this statement you came in here and defended the 10 sat price... and immediately corrected this a joke?
you dumped at 6-10 sats as much as you could locking out the public from doing the same and shame on you and stock exchange! when volume went super low you had them changed it to 5 stats... be honest .

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April 01, 2018, 06:06:03 AM
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The team and devs HODL ELYA until 100 Sat at least.

The team did not and will not sell a single coin before 100 sat.

124.620 Elya (61$) were exchanged on SE from 9 to 5 sat 31/03/18 09:00 when Stocks.exchange took responsability and corrected the price after we advocated the cause of the miners.
 
It would be totally irrelevant for the team to bring the price from 10 to 5 for a gain of 61$.

We believe that selling at current price would be for the team and devs like mining for free and working for tips.





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April 01, 2018, 09:49:45 AM
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ELYA week 2

Elie BOUDARA, gifted Blockchain Advisor, joins ELYA team.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/elieboudara/

Pierre-Albert BENLOLO, Product Advisor.
Bright investment banker swings to crypto and joins ELYA team.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/pierre-albert-b-43b66615/
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April 01, 2018, 11:52:59 AM
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ELYA week 2

Elie BOUDARA, gifted Blockchain Advisor, joins ELYA team.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/elieboudara/

Pierre-Albert BENLOLO, Product Advisor.
Bright investment banker swings to crypto and joins ELYA team.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/pierre-albert-b-43b66615/

Sorry but this project look scamy...first min price 10sats without announcement,now same for 5 sats....So that is insider trading infos....just lol at all.
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April 02, 2018, 06:57:05 AM
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Already explained in telegram group and evidence supplied : mistake admitted by SE and corrected by the exchange.
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April 02, 2018, 02:19:53 PM
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You change fixed price again? There is sell order for 4 satoshies at the moment... Embarrassed
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