Up!
Correct me wrong, but I thought that a gem meant that it would grade MS65+
This doesn't look like it would grade that high it looks dirty to me on the front
Did you really read my offering?
Grades are VF and XF+ respectively (German / UK grading scale). Dirt is mentioned and also the reason for not cleaning (you can easily clean it yourself if you don't like the natural look).
The assumption that a MS65+ grade is a requirement for a coin to be valuable at all is nonsense. This is only true for the modern collector's market, where coins are produced to be sold to collectors, never entering circulation.
The coins I'm selling here were coins that were produced for real world use. The year / mintmark combinations offered here are rare, even in ordinary circulated condition. My pricing reflects their above average (in case of the 50 Pf, exceptionally good) condition.
Because these coins are rare even in ordinary condition, you will hardly find them in MS grades. Therefore at MS65+ the price tag would clearly exceed 0.2 BTC rather than 0.01 BTC.