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Is the video trustworthy? If not, the pimp failed in providing proofs so nobody will go anywhere, and nobody will get robbed or kidnapped.
Anyway, criminology says that most of the criminals that do things against the person (like pimping, killing, raping) are statistically more interested in cash than gold or other commodities. Something triggers in their brain when they see paper money but not a bullion of silver, gold, etc. I guess because they are short-sighted and they tend to neutralize risks (like killing a man for something that looks like gold but it isn't). So, I strongly believe the first prostitution act with bitcoin will be one of some girl that wants some. Real pimps are more interested in euro dollars and pounds. They will first accept Chinese yuans before bitcoin.
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February 05, 2011, 09:05:01 AM |
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Grrr. Mistake != Non-american convention
It is a mistake in English, which the OP is using. No English style guide advocates putting a space before a question mark, and it is never done in English literature. Clearly it would not be a mistake in French.
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February 05, 2011, 12:12:23 PM |
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Racist much?
gypsies are people, just like any others.
It's actually quite absurd to call me racist, because I myself am not white and in my country i have suffered a lot because of racism. But of course you cannot know that so it is not your fault. I understand perfectly what racism is and what it is not, because i have felt it on my own skin. What I am saying is that it does **not** matter what **RACE** gypsies are. It's just their culture which makes them do illegal stuff. In my 30-year long life i have almost NEVER seen a gypsie having a legal occupation in my country, and believe me - there are a lot of gypsies here. 99,9% gypsies i know are either professional beggers, thiefs or scammers. In my whole life **MAYBE** i have seen **ONE** gypsie working legally somewhere some time ago, but i don't remember correctly now. So just imagine how many of them have illegal occupations comparing to legal ones.
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February 05, 2011, 12:39:47 PM |
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What I am saying is that it does **not** matter what **RACE** gypsies are. It's just their culture which makes them do illegal stuff. In my 30-year long life i have almost NEVER seen a gypsie having a legal occupation in my country, and believe me - there are a lot of gypsies here.
Despise against a cultural or ethnic group is usualy assimilated to racism.
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February 05, 2011, 12:59:11 PM |
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Racist much?
gypsies are people, just like any others.
It's actually quite absurd to call me racist, because I myself am not white and in my country i have suffered a lot because of racism. But of course you cannot know that so it is not your fault. I understand perfectly what racism is and what it is not, because i have felt it on my own skin. What I am saying is that it does **not** matter what **RACE** gypsies are. It's just their culture which makes them do illegal stuff. In my 30-year long life i have almost NEVER seen a gypsie having a legal occupation in my country, and believe me - there are a lot of gypsies here. 99,9% gypsies i know are either professional beggers, thiefs or scammers. In my whole life **MAYBE** i have seen **ONE** gypsie working legally somewhere some time ago, but i don't remember correctly now. So just imagine how many of them have illegal occupations comparing to legal ones. So if they rounded them up you would be grateful? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) oh wait.....
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February 05, 2011, 04:27:47 PM |
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A few recent threads make me wish there was a separate NSFW Marketplace.
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Do not waste your time debating whether Bitcoin can work. It does work.
"Early adopters will profit" is not a sufficient condition to classify something as a pyramid or Ponzi scheme. If it was, Apple and Microsoft stock are Ponzi schemes.
There is no such thing as "market manipulation." There is only buying and selling.
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What I am saying is that it does **not** matter what **RACE** gypsies are. It's just their culture which makes them do illegal stuff. In my 30-year long life i have almost NEVER seen a gypsie having a legal occupation in my country, and believe me - there are a lot of gypsies here.
Despise against a cultural or ethnic group is usualy assimilated to racism. I do not despise any "group", so your assumption is invalid. I don't like certain "traditions". There is no point in despising a group of people, since a) not everybody in a group is like the rest of the group b) people can change their culture - if they want to of course Racist much?
gypsies are people, just like any others.
It's actually quite absurd to call me racist, because I myself am not white and in my country i have suffered a lot because of racism. But of course you cannot know that so it is not your fault. I understand perfectly what racism is and what it is not, because i have felt it on my own skin. What I am saying is that it does **not** matter what **RACE** gypsies are. It's just their culture which makes them do illegal stuff. In my 30-year long life i have almost NEVER seen a gypsie having a legal occupation in my country, and believe me - there are a lot of gypsies here. 99,9% gypsies i know are either professional beggers, thiefs or scammers. In my whole life **MAYBE** i have seen **ONE** gypsie working legally somewhere some time ago, but i don't remember correctly now. So just imagine how many of them have illegal occupations comparing to legal ones. So if they rounded them up you would be grateful? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) oh wait..... You're not listening. I'am not wishing for anybody or any group to be "rounded up" anywhere anytime. I'm just making an observation. Gypsies JUST DON"T WORK LEGALLY here. IT SIMPLY ALMOST DOES NOT HAPPEN. Deal with it. They just don't integrate at all. They beg, steal, lie, scam 99,9% of the time. And i don't need any statistics to confirm that. Just ask **anybody** in my country. Go make a street survey and ask people if they have seen legally working gypsie. You will be surprised (or not). Perhaps there is a way to fix their culture, but at the moment I have no ideas. Also, some gypsies leave their culture and live like a "normal people", but VAST majority do not.
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February 05, 2011, 04:54:12 PM |
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A few recent threads make me wish there was a separate NSFW Marketplace.
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February 05, 2011, 05:07:26 PM |
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A few recent threads make me wish there was a separate NSFW Marketplace.
+1 Theoretically cool idea, however this could create big, government-related problems for the forum owner if somebody starts to sell prostitution, drugs or other stuff there. So the safest place for such thing is probably TOR.
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February 05, 2011, 05:15:24 PM |
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Theoretically cool idea, however this could create big, government-related problems for the forum owner if somebody starts to sell prostitution, drugs or other stuff there. So the safest place for such thing is probably TOR.
I'm pretty sure that one day, I'll wake up one morning and I'll realize that the bitcoin.org website has been block. Then I'll go on IRC and I'll ask where is the TOR hidden bitcoin website. One minute later, I'll be connected to it.
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February 05, 2011, 05:21:44 PM |
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A few recent threads make me wish there was a separate NSFW Marketplace.
+1 Theoretically cool idea, however this could create big, government-related problems for the forum owner if somebody starts to sell prostitution, drugs or other stuff there. So the safest place for such thing is probably TOR. Well, whether they are selling them in a separate NSFW folder or within the regular Marketplace folder won't make any difference as to government related problems. I actually would prefer we not allow such legally-questionable auctions on this forum at all. IMO Bitcoin is too important to get bogged down in such legal affairs by allowing them on its official website. I know we can't prevent such transactions being done with Bitcoin, but we can keep them from growing negative attention by keeping them off the official Bitcoin website.
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Do not waste your time debating whether Bitcoin can work. It does work.
"Early adopters will profit" is not a sufficient condition to classify something as a pyramid or Ponzi scheme. If it was, Apple and Microsoft stock are Ponzi schemes.
There is no such thing as "market manipulation." There is only buying and selling.
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February 05, 2011, 05:26:24 PM |
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I actually would prefer we not allow such legally-questionable auctions on this forum at all. IMO Bitcoin is too important to get bogged down in such legal affairs by allowing them on its official website.
Well said, Sir. Promoting prostitution, drugs & other illegal buisnesses should be totally banned on this forum. Let's focus on creating a legit, stable currency, and leave other things to other places.
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February 05, 2011, 05:37:57 PM |
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Promoting prostitution, drugs & other illegal buisnesses should be totally banned on this forum.
(emphasis mine)Agreed. Let's focus on creating a legit, stable currency, and leave other things to other places.
(emphasis mine)Disagreed, this time. A currency is blind about what it's used for, and it's a good thing. What's allowed on a particular website is another topic, though. So, I agree that we shouldn't allow "delicate" topics on this forum. The internet is large enough to let anyone create their own forum/website/whatever about the topics they wish, and sell their services in bitcoins if they want to.
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Disagreed, this time. A currency is blind about what it's used for, and it's a good thing. What's allowed on a particular website is another topic, though.
So, I agree that we shouldn't allow "delicate" topics on this forum. The internet is large enough to let anyone create their own forum/website/whatever about the topics they wish, and sell their services in bitcoins if they want to.
We shouldn't disagree since I'm talkiing about the same thing, just using different words. Well, perhaps I'm not making myself clear enough.
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February 05, 2011, 08:57:45 PM |
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Racist much?
gypsies are people, just like any others.
It's actually quite absurd to call me racist, because I myself am not white and in my country i have suffered a lot because of racism. But of course you cannot know that so it is not your fault. I understand perfectly what racism is and what it is not, because i have felt it on my own skin. What I am saying is that it does **not** matter what **RACE** gypsies are. It's just their culture which makes them do illegal stuff. In my 30-year long life i have almost NEVER seen a gypsie having a legal occupation in my country, and believe me - there are a lot of gypsies here. 99,9% gypsies i know are either professional beggers, thiefs or scammers. In my whole life **MAYBE** i have seen **ONE** gypsie working legally somewhere some time ago, but i don't remember correctly now. So just imagine how many of them have illegal occupations comparing to legal ones. You don't have to be white to be racist. One great example of this would be Rwanda. Oh, and I'm Gypsy.
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February 05, 2011, 11:47:40 PM |
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JUST DON"T WORK LEGALLY If youre not working illegally (cough* not paying taxes* ) youre doing it wrong. The more people suck off the system the quicker it will go down so im all for people doing that.
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February 06, 2011, 12:46:46 AM |
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banning that from this forum would be a move towards trying to regulate the bitcoin and authoritarianism.
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February 06, 2011, 01:42:09 AM |
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banning that from this forum would be a move towards trying to regulate the bitcoin and authoritarianism.
That's ridiculous.
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Do not waste your time debating whether Bitcoin can work. It does work.
"Early adopters will profit" is not a sufficient condition to classify something as a pyramid or Ponzi scheme. If it was, Apple and Microsoft stock are Ponzi schemes.
There is no such thing as "market manipulation." There is only buying and selling.
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unless this forum is registered offshore with bulletproof immunity hosting and the domains are out of reach of the US (like when they yanked all the p2p and vid linking domains) i wouldn't venture into openly selling vice or carding/fraud. also if you banned a scamming vendor they would launch DDOS or maybe the DEA would launch one to shut it down
however you could make the Tor bitcoin marketplace with anything on it.
as for Romania, it's the second most corrupt country after Liberia. Sex traffickers can easily get anonymous bank accounts and the like to launder money bitcoin isn't needed. Not like the Romanian police will ever care or do anything about it without a substantial bribe which the sex trafficker will easily match.
also prepaid prostitution will never work unless they are repeat clients or a major agency. read any escort forum, they all want to pay in cash first and don't trust anybody. bait + switch is common in that field, pic is a gorgeous girl but the person who shows up to your door is usually the worst female impersonator since tarzan went through jane's handbag and ate her lipstick.
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