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March 23, 2018, 08:43:17 PM
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So because of the recent downward volatility I have been reading a lot of threads and posts about how bitcoin is a bubble and could crash to zero. I have a different theory: bitcoin will one day become a reserve currency!

Right now countries typically hold US Dollars, Gold and Oil in reserves. The amount of these reserves is critical for smaller countries. Bitcoin is not on that list...yet.

According to the World Gold Council, the total value of all gold ever mined is about $7.8 trillion. The oil market is worth $1.7 billion/per year. There are also 1.56 Trillion USD in circulation.  At the moment, bitcoin is worth around $145.9 billion.

If bitcoin were to become part of the reserve mix for even small countries, its value would skyrocket. I can easily see it having a market cap in the trillions.
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March 23, 2018, 08:55:38 PM
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Volatility is a key parameter that characterizes the safety of a reserve currency.The volatility of bitcoin is very high.  The bitcoin rate is highly variable even in comparison with the volatile currencies of emerging markets.In part, according to Blanche, this is due to the fact that many of such countries - China, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippines and India - tightly control cash flows.Nevertheless, as the chart shows, there were already two cases when bitcoin's volatility fell below the volatility of silver (COMEX: SI), which has remained one of the world's currencies for 400 years.
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March 23, 2018, 09:24:52 PM
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So because of the recent downward volatility I have been reading a lot of threads and posts about how bitcoin is a bubble and could crash to zero. I have a different theory: bitcoin will one day become a reserve currency!

Right now countries typically hold US Dollars, Gold and Oil in reserves. The amount of these reserves is critical for smaller countries. Bitcoin is not on that list...yet.

According to the World Gold Council, the total value of all gold ever mined is about $7.8 trillion. The oil market is worth $1.7 billion/per year. There are also 1.56 Trillion USD in circulation.  At the moment, bitcoin is worth around $145.9 billion.

If bitcoin were to become part of the reserve mix for even small countries, its value would skyrocket. I can easily see it having a market cap in the trillions.

Sure we could very well see BTC being a reserve currency in 10 years or something but do you expect those entire 10 years to be just up without crashes and bear markets?

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March 23, 2018, 09:39:25 PM
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It could play the part of a reserve currency mixed with other important assets, only if volatility isn't as wild as it always is. We can point our fingers to the open cryptocurrency market for such volatility, but that's how far we can go; we can't control volatility itself since that power is beyond us--or doesn't even exist. Another thing is whether countries are willing to accept it as a part of their reserves or not. If there'd be a few countries to choose bitcoin as one of their reserves, it would be pointless to hold it since they only have limited options to use that reserve for in case they'd be needing it.

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March 23, 2018, 09:43:32 PM
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So because of the recent downward volatility I have been reading a lot of threads and posts about how bitcoin is a bubble and could crash to zero. I have a different theory: bitcoin will one day become a reserve currency!

Right now countries typically hold US Dollars, Gold and Oil in reserves. The amount of these reserves is critical for smaller countries. Bitcoin is not on that list...yet.

According to the World Gold Council, the total value of all gold ever mined is about $7.8 trillion. The oil market is worth $1.7 billion/per year. There are also 1.56 Trillion USD in circulation.  At the moment, bitcoin is worth around $145.9 billion.

If bitcoin were to become part of the reserve mix for even small countries, its value would skyrocket. I can easily see it having a market cap in the trillions.

Exaxctly. I've agreed all of them. I believe same things. Besides I believe BTC will be used to supply high tech alt coins for low cost and instant transaction times for micro payments. This is simular with that goverments reserved gold to supply their own money to market. Same thing will be happen in crypto world. Companies will keep BTC to create their coins.
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March 23, 2018, 11:59:24 PM
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It could play the part of a reserve currency mixed with other important assets, only if volatility isn't as wild as it always is. We can point our fingers to the open cryptocurrency market for such volatility, but that's how far we can go; we can't control volatility itself since that power is beyond us--or doesn't even exist. Another thing is whether countries are willing to accept it as a part of their reserves or not. If there'd be a few countries to choose bitcoin as one of their reserves, it would be pointless to hold it since they only have limited options to use that reserve for in case they'd be needing it.
I think that currency people are using bitcoin as for investment and trading purposes, that are saving it and holding it as they know the importance and value of bitcoin but in future when bitcoin will become more popular then people will start using bitcoin as currency for purchasing things not only in onle stores but even the local stores will also start accepting bitcoin for shopping.

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March 24, 2018, 12:28:32 AM
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Bitcoin will never be zero in value, because the number of uses, and bitcoin is very good for fund or reserve money because it has value and prices are always increasing.
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March 24, 2018, 12:35:41 AM
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threads/post about bitcoin being a bubble is not new i even read bitcoin died several times already. bitcoin along with fiat money can be a good team in the future. bitcoin is like gold and if mix in the reserve of the countries its value will really rise.
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March 24, 2018, 01:12:02 AM
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So because of the recent downward volatility I have been reading a lot of threads and posts about how bitcoin is a bubble and could crash to zero. I have a different theory: bitcoin will one day become a reserve currency!

Right now countries typically hold US Dollars, Gold and Oil in reserves. The amount of these reserves is critical for smaller countries. Bitcoin is not on that list...yet.

According to the World Gold Council, the total value of all gold ever mined is about $7.8 trillion. The oil market is worth $1.7 billion/per year. There are also 1.56 Trillion USD in circulation.  At the moment, bitcoin is worth around $145.9 billion.

If bitcoin were to become part of the reserve mix for even small countries, its value would skyrocket. I can easily see it having a market cap in the trillions.

I can not say anything to the USD, but oil and gold will lose their value over time.

If we talk about oil, the current technology is in development and people are starting to use alternative energy. Even cars now work with electricity.

Gold is so expensive that it is limited in the world and it is just a type of metal. I mean, there's a lot of metal that can take it place.

The trend of Bitcoin will not continue lifelong, generally Bitcoin doesn't worth a billion dollars, but it is the present-day trend, and it is not worthy of the current price.
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March 24, 2018, 02:29:15 AM
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There is one thing I want to correct you. Bitcoin is not a currency, it is an asset. Like gold.
And beside bitcoin, you have to notice the other altcoins too. Litecoin always goes along with bitcoin.
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March 24, 2018, 02:55:45 AM
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Currency not only has the value of a currency attribute, and due to excessive imitation of gold natural attribute, not only the amount limit, and even the output of every 10 minutes to be qualified, its production is not gradually increase, but less and less.

With the development of society, the function of saving will be brought into play.
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June 14, 2018, 08:50:07 PM
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It could play the part of a reserve currency mixed with other important assets, only if volatility isn't as wild as it always is. We can point our fingers to the open cryptocurrency market for such volatility, but that's how far we can go; we can't control volatility itself since that power is beyond us--or doesn't even exist. Another thing is whether countries are willing to accept it as a part of their reserves or not. If there'd be a few countries to choose bitcoin as one of their reserves, it would be pointless to hold it since they only have limited options to use that reserve for in case they'd be needing it.

I agree, volatility is a big issue. Although I do think bitcoin derivatives (and time) will result in lower overall volatility.
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July 26, 2018, 12:29:08 PM
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Bitcoin accelerates as a world reserve currency
Recently, the People's Bank of China has helped boost Bitcoin's reputation by meeting with executives of the largest Bitcoin trading platforms in China.
In fact, officials from the People's Bank of China met the BTCC on January 6, 2017.
The purpose of the meeting was to "call for a fair investment in Bitcoin," Reuters reported.
However, most importantly, the meeting proved that the authorities at the People's Bank of China are trying to consider the appropriate Bitcoin business.
Commenting on the meeting between the People's Bank of China - BTCC, a Reddit user, vapor114 wrote: "China only adds benefits to the MOF by recognizing that the exchange of Bitcoin between businesses is French. "
Moreover, this is not the first time that BTCC met with the bank. A statement from the BTCC: "The BTCC regularly meets with the People's Bank of China and we work closely with them to ensure that we are operating in accordance with the laws and regulations of China."
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July 26, 2018, 12:39:29 PM
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Being a reserve of value is one of the best characteristics of Bitcoin, its deflationary aspect is fantastic. It is probably already part of the portfolio of many banks, even if it is quiet, and over time it can be used for that purpose by governments. Increasingly it gains legitimacy and the tendency is to be increasingly used.
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bitcoin devs have given up fixing bitcoin issues and pretty much unanimously declared bitcoins blockchain as broke(unscalable)
and so they are now declaring bitcoin as not peer to peer cash. but as a reserve whereby the blockchain becomes a locked fortknox vault for LN and people end up moving value via unconfirmed unaudied receipts of value on the LN network

only issue is LN is not a unique network just for bitcoin value. but will be open to all other values too. so eventually people wont want to settle back to bitcoins but to other chains that are cheaper fee and faster confirms.. and if they want to settle back to bitcoin there is no actual 100% guarantee they will be able to for full value without delay/restrictions/agreement by counterparty/punishment

yep bitcoin can actually scale. but devs want people to lock value into managed accounts. and charge fee's and penalties for the honour of co-managing the account(channel).
much like what happened to gold when bankers came along with paper money.

if people cannot see the issues with this. then they only care about a fiat exit price and not a bitcoin viable currency without middlemen.
remember even when bank notes said it would give a holder X amount of gold.. they were not actually holding gold. same will be said in a few years when people are trading LN payments

seems no one has learned the lessons of 100 years ago.

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July 26, 2018, 12:56:07 PM
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So because of the recent downward volatility I have been reading a lot of threads and posts about how bitcoin is a bubble and could crash to zero. I have a different theory: bitcoin will one day become a reserve currency!

Right now countries typically hold US Dollars, Gold and Oil in reserves. The amount of these reserves is critical for smaller countries. Bitcoin is not on that list...yet.

According to the World Gold Council, the total value of all gold ever mined is about $7.8 trillion. The oil market is worth $1.7 billion/per year. There are also 1.56 Trillion USD in circulation.  At the moment, bitcoin is worth around $145.9 billion.

If bitcoin were to become part of the reserve mix for even small countries, its value would skyrocket. I can easily see it having a market cap in the trillions.

I would say Bitcoin is not as safe as houses, gold, etc.. Needs to be solid, reliable, un-voliatile first.
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July 26, 2018, 01:11:44 PM
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I have a different theory: bitcoin will one day become a reserve currency!

THe important word here is countries. Since they are ruled by governments and those governments are in debt, unable to function without printing more and more fiat money, they will never be able to or even willing to switch to a decentralized cryptocurrency or even a currency backed by gold or anything else. What Maduro is trying to dois his swan song. People may embrace it but governments won't. Even if 60% of people in a country wanted Bitcoin to become their national currency, the government wouldn't agree because it would mean paying debts that can't be paid, getting real money out of nothing.

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Bitcoin is a currency. Yes, in some countries there so many high profile people use bitcoin to save their black money in a small count. So, in this side bitcoin is a reserve currency.

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So because of the recent downward volatility I have been reading a lot of threads and posts about how bitcoin is a bubble and could crash to zero. I have a different theory: bitcoin will one day become a reserve currency!

Right now countries typically hold US Dollars, Gold and Oil in reserves. The amount of these reserves is critical for smaller countries. Bitcoin is not on that list...yet.

According to the World Gold Council, the total value of all gold ever mined is about $7.8 trillion. The oil market is worth $1.7 billion/per year. There are also 1.56 Trillion USD in circulation.  At the moment, bitcoin is worth around $145.9 billion.

If bitcoin were to become part of the reserve mix for even small countries, its value would skyrocket. I can easily see it having a market cap in the trillions.

Sure we could very well see BTC being a reserve currency in 10 years or something but do you expect those entire 10 years to be just up without crashes and bear markets?

In my opinion, when the bitcoin becomes the reserve currency, it is not yet certain, because there is still a new currency or another backup, and can also still not acceptable bitcoin in all countries
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So because of the recent downward volatility I have been reading a lot of threads and posts about how bitcoin is a bubble and could crash to zero. I have a different theory: bitcoin will one day become a reserve currency!

Right now countries typically hold US Dollars, Gold and Oil in reserves. The amount of these reserves is critical for smaller countries. Bitcoin is not on that list...yet.

According to the World Gold Council, the total value of all gold ever mined is about $7.8 trillion. The oil market is worth $1.7 billion/per year. There are also 1.56 Trillion USD in circulation.  At the moment, bitcoin is worth around $145.9 billion.

If bitcoin were to become part of the reserve mix for even small countries, its value would skyrocket. I can easily see it having a market cap in the trillions.

This may somehow be the reason why votality is kept as part of the characteristic of bitcoin. I guess this may be a hint but more of a strategy for some. If it is therefore be use as a reserve currency for a specific fiat then it will not be for all. We cannot just make bitcoin something as a rebound for it is something for some of us.
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