Conflict of Interest on DT1

[o_e_l_e_o]

You miss the whole point here. All of them are trying to warn you that you will face all these probelms in your life soon if you keep on doing the evil things with innocent people.

...yeah, that's not how it works.

[actmyname]

Are you crazy "The Pharmist" ? Do you think all these people are begging to you to that they will die if you wont remove negative trust ?
Or they will stave to death ? or their near ones are in trouble ?

You miss the whole point here. All of them are trying to warn you that you will face all these probelms in your life soon if you keep on doing the evil things with innocent people.

They should work. Sob stories can be created by anyone and the use of emotional appeal is not something that should influence one's decision.The Pharmacist no longer tags shitposters, but regardless of if someone is in a third-world country or if their region has a low average income, shitposting should not be tolerated. You don't get a free pass because you rely on the forum for money. And you don't get a free pass because you don't know English well enough—that's just absurd. It would be like me trying to work as a mathematician and doing basic algebra, saying that I don't know anything advanced because I am disadvantaged.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

2. Taking away DT status from members like Lauda, actmyname, Pharmacist etc who give negative rating to spammers.

As pointed out by actmyname, I don't do that anymore, nor am I going to give fresh negatives for merit abusers.  That's per Theymos and the feedback I've gotten.  Scammers and account sellers still deserve a negative, though.

You shitposters don't seem to realize that this forum might not even exist other than as a spam forum if you guys keep up with your antics.  I don't want to imagine what the forum would be like without the people I have in my trust list.  It would not be the same, and it probably would not be a forum I'd want to visit.  What should happen is that campaigns ought to pay for post in the local sections, where you can at least be understood and you might have more to say.

The fact is that except for a few instances where users have actually posted their location in their profile or have specifically written where they're from, I don't know where anybody here is from.  When I say "3rd world shitposter", I'm saying that more out of how these posts read than my knowledge of whence they originated.  And somehow 100s of them end up sounding very, very similar on a daily basis.  I don't literally want anyone starving to death, but nor do I want this forum to be ended because people are here just to post garbage--and I'm confident that the posts I've reported, the shitposters I've tagged in the past, and you fools I'm debating with are the problem.  And I have a hard time believing that only bitcointalk can stand in the way of someone eating.  Could happen, sure, but you'd think those people would be a lot more motivated to not be lazy.  Or crafty enough not to get caught.  

I sleep with a clean conscience about this stuff.

It would be like me trying to work as a mathematician and doing basic algebra, saying that I don't know anything advanced because I am disadvantaged.

Right on.  Or, as Vod has said, it's like these shitposters are at a job interview and after every question the interviewer asks--about qualifications, experience, etc., the shitposter says  "Because I need the job".

[2girls]

Are you crazy "The Pharmist" ? Do you think all these people are begging to you to that they will die if you wont remove negative trust ?
Or they will stave to death ? or their near ones are in trouble ?

You miss the whole point here. All of them are trying to warn you that you will face all these probelms in your life soon if you keep on doing the evil things with innocent people.

They should work. Sob stories can be created by anyone and the use of emotional appeal is not something that should influence one's decision.The Pharmacist no longer tags shitposters, but regardless of if someone is in a third-world country or if their region has a low average income, shitposting should not be tolerated. You don't get a free pass because you rely on the forum for money. And you don't get a free pass because you don't know English well enough—that's just absurd. It would be like me trying to work as a mathematician and doing basic algebra, saying that I don't know anything advanced because I am disadvantaged.

Dear actmyname ,
So The pharmacist no longer tag shitposters but HE USED TO TAG. So he is given back DT status

We wrote in Auction section to inquire about a sold account buy stuff, and now we dont do it.  So why we are not giving a second chance like Pharmacist ?

Shame on all your arguments.....

[actmyname]

Dear actmyname ,
So The pharmacist no longer tag shitposters but HE USED TO TAG. So he is given back DT status

We wrote in Auction section to inquire about a sold account buy stuff, and now we dont do it.  So why we are not giving a second chance like Pharmacist ?

Shame on all your arguments.....

The Pharmacist was added back into DT as a result of hilariousandco's inclusion. Don't try to create a false equivalence here with "second chances". OgNasty, Blazed, Tomatocage and hilariousandco all have their own opinions on where The Pharmacist belongs. But don't consider it a "second chance" if the user who added him back into DT wasn't part of the initial inclusion.

Don't equate neutral/positive trust to DT status. Completely separate things.

[Blazed]

I did indeed sell 1 account 3 years ago for my buddy. I worked with Quickseller on how best to handle it and for pricing etc... Long story short a friend of mine (in real life) wanted to earn coins via signature campaign. I told him how it worked and he posted maybe 20 times and said he wasn’t into it. If you feel that was terrible by all means drop me a negative. I did the entire thing publicly and have nothing to hide here. You can dig into me all you like, but that is probably the most “shady” thing you will ever find. I have always been very open and honest 

[2girls]

I did indeed sell 1 account 3 years ago for my buddy. I worked with Quickseller on how best to handle it and for pricing etc... Long story short a friend of mine (in real life) wanted to earn coins via signature campaign. I told him how it worked and he posted maybe 20 times and said he wasn’t into it. If you feel that was terrible by all means drop me a negative. I did the entire thing publicly and have nothing to hide here. You can dig into me all you like, but that is probably the most “shady” thing you will ever find. I have always been very open and honest 

We all know you Blazed. You are old here and one of the best DT. I am only talking about the "The Pharmacist" and his behavior. 

[cabsav]

Actually i try to solve this on pm but he didnt reply me for more than 2 months than i want to write here. Pharmacist gave me negative trust on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1492296.0 topic 2 years ago for bidding on auction. Also as you can see OmegaStarScream first bidder and he didn't gave him  negative trust also some of bidder didnt got trust too. So from pm i request from him to remove my negative trust as kindly after 2 years. and if not i request for a reply. He didnt reply also he blocked my pm's.
Is this how to use DT? giving negative trust on same topic to some people and be blind to known people?

[2girls]

Actually i try to solve this on pm but he didnt reply me for more than 2 months than i want to write here. Pharmacist gave me negative trust on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1492296.0 topic 2 years ago for bidding on auction. Also as you can see OmegaStarScream first bidder and he didn't gave him  negative trust also some of bidder didnt got trust too. So from pm i request from him to remove my negative trust as kindly after 2 years. and if not i request for a reply. He didnt reply also he blocked my pm's.
Is this how to use DT? giving negative trust on same topic to some people and be blind to known people?

This has been said many times here and on different threads but its of no use. Pharmacist is a controversial personality and he dont deserve to be a DT. 

[cabsav]

Actually i try to solve this on pm but he didnt reply me for more than 2 months than i want to write here. Pharmacist gave me negative trust on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1492296.0 topic 2 years ago for bidding on auction. Also as you can see OmegaStarScream first bidder and he didn't gave him  negative trust also some of bidder didnt got trust too. So from pm i request from him to remove my negative trust as kindly after 2 years. and if not i request for a reply. He didnt reply also he blocked my pm's.
Is this how to use DT? giving negative trust on same topic to some people and be blind to known people?

This has been said many times here and on different threads but its of no use. Pharmacist is a controversial personality and he dont deserve to be a DT. 

He removed his negative trust. No deal/problem left.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

giving negative trust on same topic to some people and be blind to known people?

He wasn't "known" (to me) at the time, nor a staff member.  But the reason why I didn't give him a neg was because of all the other trust he'd earned.  I didn't like the fact that he was attempting to deal in bitcointalk accounts, but he did not look like the typical account-dealing scumbag, plain and simple.  And after reviewing your trust page, I see you earned some positives (though from members I don't know) and didn't earn any negatives in 2 years--so I removed the negative. 

I don't remember you asking me about this via PM, but it may well have gotten drowned by a hundred PMs about this sort of thing.

[whistleblower2]

I did indeed sell 1 account 3 years ago for my buddy. I worked with Quickseller on how best to handle it and for pricing etc... Long story short a friend of mine (in real life) wanted to earn coins via signature campaign. I told him how it worked and he posted maybe 20 times and said he wasn’t into it. If you feel that was terrible by all means drop me a negative. I did the entire thing publicly and have nothing to hide here. You can dig into me all you like, but that is probably the most “shady” thing you will ever find. I have always been very open and honest 

Thank you for replying.

Do you understand my concern that you have multiple people on your trust list who have given out thousands of Red Tags to other people for the exact same business activity that you engaged in, yet none of these people left you a Red Tag? Do you see the conflict here?

You claim to know what has happened in 2016 (including when something started), yet you created your account in mid-2017. You are the second account (amishmanish was the first) to have this very same discrepancy. Color me suspicious.

I forgot about the new forum rule that says you are only allowed to read posts from after your account was created. (/s)

Due to some threads "burning out" at later times than others, it is very difficult to get any realistic handle of community consensus when you did not personally witness conversations/discussions that occurred in the past.

giving negative trust on same topic to some people and be blind to known people?

He wasn't "known" (to me) at the time, nor a staff member.  But the reason why I didn't give him a neg was because of all the other trust he'd earned. 

He was one of the 1st people to reply to that thread. Do you think it is possible some people that replied after he replied saw exactly what you saw, thought what he was doing was "okay" and did the exact same thing? If anything, people with trust should be held to a higher standard, not lower because other people will look at their actions and act similarly.

[whistleblower2]

Bumping this since this thread seems to have gotten lost among all the April fools day threads.

[LoyceV]

I did indeed sell 1 account 3 years ago for my buddy

Do you understand my concern that you have multiple people on your trust list who have given out thousands of Red Tags to other people for the exact same business activity that you engaged in, yet none of these people left you a Red Tag? Do you see the conflict here?

Do you mind if I answer here? I get the feeling the community responded less strict against account sales 3 years ago, than it does now. When I joined this forum, there wasn't nearly as much spam as there is now, and account farming wasn't a full-time job yet. Selling one of your own accounts to a buddy isn't the same as creating accounts on a massive scale with the sole purpose of selling them.

I was surprised to see yahoo's trust farming thread from 2014. But it only took him 1 reply from Vod and 10 minutes to realize it's a bad idea, and lock the thread. Let's call it a rookie mistake.

[digaran]

I was surprised to see yahoo's trust farming thread from 2014. But it only took him 1 reply from Vod and 10 minutes to realize it's a bad idea, and lock the thread. Let's call it a rookie mistake.

I believe these people are asking the same thing here, they want you to give them another chance, call their actions as a rookie mistake. I don't think if they publicly sell accounts and share 3/4 of their income with the forum you should tag them. if they are not garbage posting and spamming to farm these accounts. knowing them publicly would also help to prevent scamming.

Would they do that? would DT members do that if they share their income and do everything publicly? what if Lauda and other DT2 members agree on removing their negative tags if garbage posters and account sellers agree on donating $50 to the forum for every account? they should also agree to a few terms, after removing red tag if they start posting garbage according to me and a few other neutral forum members, they will have their red tags back.

They would never agree, there is not much of money in agreeing to my terms, they want DT1-2 members gone.

[Vod]

I did indeed sell 1 account 3 years ago for my buddy. I worked with Quickseller on how best to handle it and for pricing etc

Well there ya go.  If Blazed doesn't get negative trust for selling an account, and working with a scammer, then no one else should get negative trust for selling accounts either. 

[Bardman]

I did indeed sell 1 account 3 years ago for my buddy. I worked with Quickseller on how best to handle it and for pricing etc

Well there ya go.  If Blazed doesn't get negative trust for selling an account, and working with a scammer, then no one else should get negative trust for selling accounts either. 

As I said there is a lot of hypocrisy going on around here and they are just going to use the same old excuse of ''those were other times''. The fact is that if someone is going to give negative trust for selling accounts, he should give it to anyone that does so.

[Lauda]

I did indeed sell 1 account 3 years ago for my buddy. I worked with Quickseller on how best to handle it and for pricing etc

Well there ya go.  If Blazed doesn't get negative trust for selling an account, and working with a scammer, then no one else should get negative trust for selling accounts either. 

I refuse to take this statement seriously from you. You should know better; unless the sarcasm sensors are broken.

[digaran]

I did indeed sell 1 account 3 years ago for my buddy. I worked with Quickseller on how best to handle it and for pricing etc

Well there ya go.  If Blazed doesn't get negative trust for selling an account, and working with a scammer, then no one else should get negative trust for selling accounts either. 

What if Blazed donates $200 to the forum to get no negative trust? then everybody who has ever received negative trust for account selling should do the same. if Blazed donates $1000 to the forum. nobody would do the same. they don't sell accounts for such amounts.

[o_e_l_e_o]

What if Blazed donates $200 to the forum to get no negative trust? then everybody who has ever received negative trust for account selling should do the same. if Blazed donates $1000 to the forum. nobody would do the same. they don't sell accounts for such amounts.

Buying your way out of negative trust would be even more untrustworthy in my opinion.