Does Anyone Else Believe In Jesus Christ ?

[dank]

If you can experience it, is it not real?  To me, there are infinite realities composing one universe.  Everything is real.

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[yogi]

If you can experience it, is it not real? 

Reading Willy Wonka doesn't mean that you've visited a magical chocolate factory.

To me, there are infinite realities composing one universe.

As said before, the sum of infinitely many influences is zero.

Everything is real.

Willy Wonka is just a story.

[dank]

If you can experience it, is it not real? 

Reading Willy Wonka doesn't mean that you've visited a magical chocolate factory.

To me, there are infinite realities composing one universe.

As said before, the sum of infinitely many influences is zero.

Everything is real.

Willy Wonka is just a story.

It doesn't mean you can't visit a magical chocolate factory.  If you were to see Willy Wonka, would he not be real?

[yogi]

It doesn't mean you can't visit a magical chocolate factory.  If you were to see Willy Wonka, would he not be real?

If I saw Willy Wonka I'd seek help.

[kentrolla]

It doesn't mean you can't visit a magical chocolate factory.  If you were to see Willy Wonka, would he not be real?

If I saw Willy Wonka I'd seek help.

I called dank out for going to the "what is reality" argument when he first started posting here. I knew he would.

Either way. Let him think how he thinks. obviously its a fun perspective and I wouldn't want to ruin it. As long as he's not hurting anyone or himself then I think there's no problem with him thinking this way.

[drakahn]

No, no one else believes in jesus, only you OP.

[Mike Christ]

Reading dank's posting history is a trip; he starts off completely normal, then somewhere just totally shifts personalities.

[yogi]

Reading dank's posting history is a trip; he starts off completely normal, then somewhere just totally shifts personalities.

It was when he got the scammer tag.

[BitChick]

No, no one else believes in jesus, only you OP.

Nope.  Me too!   

OP and I seem to be outnumbered though.

And I don't have my own website to share, which might be a good thing.

[foggyb]

God must first pass through man to reach the believer; without man, God speaks no word, and still to this day has not.  Therefore, all that God says is dependent on man being honest.  We know that man cannot be honest at all times.  Therefore, we cannot prove God's word to be God's word, we can only prove that it is man's word; ergo, God is only as omnipotent as we believe him to be.  This is just the logic I'm laying out for the believer  They can take it or discard it if they want.

I'm not saying the Bible is true or false; I'm saying it cannot be absolute, so God's word cannot be absolute.  We should not burn any books due to men lying for either those books are intentional lies (of which I love), or they are observable truths (such as the writing of many philosophers and scientists, which can be proven to be lies or not.)  If the individual cannot discern what is real and what is not on their own, they cannot trust any book asserted as truth, including religious texts, including political texts.  The beginning of this distrust, I believe, is by making obvious that books of absolute truth are only as honest as man, which is something any believer can relate with.

Suggestion: Look up the word omnipotent in the dictionary. The bolded statement is not logical, its logically broken. Your whole argument is utterly broken because your premise does not follow.

If God isn't omnipotent, then God isn't. The grey area you're conjuring does not exist anywhere in reality. Conditional omnipotence. Haha, that is likely the best oxymoron Ive' ever encountered. I thought jumbo shrimp was good.  

2nd bolded statement. No scientist seeks the truth on their own. They collaborate. That is the nature of science, it does not rely merely on individual efforts. That's why the bible has so many authors who cohesively agree on truth. I argue it is the strongest argument for truth that this world has ever seen. So to sum up my response, I fully disagree with your explanation of how we as human beings discern truth.

[Vod]

You're thinking if infinite gods are in a collective reality.  We each control our own reality which makes your alternation of conscious very relevant to your reality.

So you control your own reality?

You CHOOSE to be ten thousand dollars in debt and the laughing stock of the forum?

Why would you chose that?

[dank]

It doesn't mean you can't visit a magical chocolate factory.  If you were to see Willy Wonka, would he not be real?

If I saw Willy Wonka I'd seek help.

If you saw Willy Wonka, you would have great abilities, just as I once saw spongebob assimilate in front of me, explode and come back together (through the altering of consciousness/mdma).

It is all real, just like the guy I met who saw dead people and interacted with a the mother of a daughter who passed away to confirm the realness of his 'hallucinations'.

Reading dank's posting history is a trip; he starts off completely normal, then somewhere just totally shifts personalities.

I evolved.

You're thinking if infinite gods are in a collective reality.  We each control our own reality which makes your alternation of conscious very relevant to your reality.

So you control your own reality?

You CHOOSE to be ten thousand dollars in debt and the laughing stock of the forum?

Why would you chose that?

I don't know, maybe so I could pay off my debt and prove to everyone dank is not a scammer, dank is a real person trying to help the world.

As far as the laughing stock of the forum - every breath of laughter you blow towards me will hit you back in the face when I fly, it is fine with me.  We laugh at what we don't understand.

[Vod]

As far as the laughing stock of the forum - every breath of laughter you blow towards me will hit you back in the face when I fly, it is fine with me.  We laugh at what we don't understand.

In the meantime, UNTIL YOU FLY, you are the joke of this forum, nut job.   

[dank]

Fine with me, I take all your negative energy and turn it into positive.

[Transisto]

Wow, this thread seems like a gem for my filter,

Could anyone give me a list of the people worth not ignoring in this thread ?

I'd share my ignore list with you and maybe give a 50mBTC depending on the perceived effort.
(PM please, thx)

[AndrewWilliams]

Y'all need Jesus Christ.



Bitcoins for Jesus.




So it's pretty sad how people think it's trendy to put down Jesus Christ and Christianity.


You all do realize that our modern day values are derived from Judeo-Christian values?

Including:

Thou shalt not kill.
Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Thou shalt not covet.



Most European and American law is based on Judeo-Christian (biblical) law.


If you feel comfortable with any of the above, well, that says alot.

Jesus Christ is Lord.

[Ekaros]

Wow, this thread seems like a gem for my filter,

Could anyone give me a list of the people worth not ignoring in this thread ?

I'd share my ignore list with you and maybe give a 50mBTC depending on the perceived effort.
(PM please, thx)

Some times you just can't understand them...

I'm not one to ignore people, but it might be worth the effort atleast in two cases...

You all do realize that our modern day values are derived from Judeo-Christian values?

Including:

Thou shalt not kill.
Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Thou shalt not covet.



Most European and American law is based on Judeo-Christian (biblical) law.


If you feel comfortable with any of the above, well, that says alot.

You know lot of people have done very well those laws under those laws, murdering thousands or millions...  They are the most obvious things around, but some how the most vocal believers don't even follow them...

And what about rest of the values? And the rules? Should those be also followed?

[Spendulus]

..... it's pretty sad how people think it's trendy to put down Jesus Christ and Christianity.


You all do realize that our modern day values are derived from Judeo-Christian values?
....
Most European and American law is based on Judeo-Christian (biblical) law.


If you feel comfortable with any of the above, well, that says alot.
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Actually, the very concepts of atheism as expressed in this thread were engendered within and could only be expressed and fit within a Judeo-Christian cultural background.

[hawkeye]

Actually, the very concepts of atheism as expressed in this thread were engendered within and could only be expressed and fit within a Judeo-Christian cultural background.

I don't even know what that means.  Or what it is you are trying to say.  

[AndrewWilliams]

Wow, this thread seems like a gem for my filter,

Could anyone give me a list of the people worth not ignoring in this thread ?

I'd share my ignore list with you and maybe give a 50mBTC depending on the perceived effort.
(PM please, thx)

Some times you just can't understand them...

I'm not one to ignore people, but it might be worth the effort atleast in two cases...

You all do realize that our modern day values are derived from Judeo-Christian values?

Including:

Thou shalt not kill.
Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Thou shalt not covet.



Most European and American law is based on Judeo-Christian (biblical) law.


If you feel comfortable with any of the above, well, that says alot.

You know lot of people have done very well those laws under those laws, murdering thousands or millions...  They are the most obvious things around, but some how the most vocal believers don't even follow them...

And what about rest of the values? And the rules? Should those be also followed?

Hard to understand what you are trying to say.

If your point is millions of people have been murdered anyways, then it seems you have an issue with the "Why would God let that happen" question.

The Bible talks about people who pretend to be Christians and really aren't; this type of thing effects all religions. It's up to the individual to follow a religion or just pay lip service.