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October 28, 2013, 10:31:42 PM
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Supposing I have enough bitcoin to justify either expense in the name of security, which would be better:

A) A netbook running linux (probably debian) and electrum.  I would use it for nothing else and would use disk encryption.

B) My existing moderately secure computers running electrum and using Trezor devices for high value wallets?
(bitcointrezor.com)

Anyone have any arguments for either?  I am somewhat inclined towards netbook but that is mostly because I can get my hands on one now.
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October 28, 2013, 10:50:09 PM
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I personally vote for Trezor, I want one and looking in getting it in the future. I want to know the feedback from other users first.

Netbook is good if that is what you can afford now. I am using my laptop with Bitcoin-qt also Truecrypt encryption. I also have back up of different wallets (Other alt-coins) in 2 USB flash memory.

But I think Netbook isn't a bad idea. If you already have a computer. Then why don't you use the netbook with armory for offline wallet?
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October 28, 2013, 11:19:36 PM
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I personally vote for Trezor, I want one and looking in getting it in the future. I want to know the feedback from other users first.

Netbook is good if that is what you can afford now. I am using my laptop with Bitcoin-qt also Truecrypt encryption. I also have back up of different wallets (Other alt-coins) in 2 USB flash memory.

But I think Netbook isn't a bad idea. If you already have a computer. Then why don't you use the netbook with armory for offline wallet?

Yeah.  I am not sure about the Trezor.  Can you load a seed onto it or is having it generate a new seed the only option?  Also, I have a bunch of wallets and wouldn't want to have to buy a trezor for each.
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October 28, 2013, 11:26:12 PM
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I have no idea, that is why we should wait for feedback from other members who got the Trezor.
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October 30, 2013, 05:39:28 PM
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Yeah.  I am not sure about the Trezor.  Can you load a seed onto it or is having it generate a new seed the only option?  Also, I have a bunch of wallets and wouldn't want to have to buy a trezor for each.

You can do both. You can tell it to create a new seed or load a seed you already have via the mnemonic phrase.

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October 31, 2013, 11:50:34 PM
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Yeah.  I am not sure about the Trezor.  Can you load a seed onto it or is having it generate a new seed the only option?  Also, I have a bunch of wallets and wouldn't want to have to buy a trezor for each.

You can do both. You can tell it to create a new seed or load a seed you already have via the mnemonic phrase.

Have you got one?
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February 22, 2015, 06:04:25 AM
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I personally vote for Trezor, I want one and looking in getting it in the future. I want to know the feedback from other users first.

Netbook is good if that is what you can afford now. I am using my laptop with Bitcoin-qt also Truecrypt encryption. I also have back up of different wallets (Other alt-coins) in 2 USB flash memory.

But I think Netbook isn't a bad idea. If you already have a computer. Then why don't you use the netbook with armory for offline wallet?

Yeah.  I am not sure about the Trezor.  Can you load a seed onto it or is having it generate a new seed the only option?  Also, I have a bunch of wallets and wouldn't want to have to buy a trezor for each.

If the Trezor is new or has been wiped there is an option to restore from seed instead of generating a new one. It has you enter the words in a random order as to not compromise the seed.

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February 23, 2015, 06:56:03 AM
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I have a Trezor and I am using it with Electrum 2.0b3.  Works great.  

I would find the Trezor more convenient (and probably safer) than a netbook for sending transactions, as you wouldn't have to rely on a USB stick (that could ultimately become compromised), to take the signed transaction from your netbook, to a computer connected to the internet, for broadcast.  

myTrezor.com allows you to create different "accounts" for your Trezor - so a single Trezor could be all you need for your multiple bitcoin wallets - however, they will all have the same seed (only works with myTrezor.com, not with Electrum).

I was told that Trezor also support multi-currencies,  but I haven't tried them yet with it.  Satoshi Labs doesn't have an interface for other coins than Bitcoin - and Electrum 2.0b3 is only for Bitcoin (Litecoin has not updated yet).  

A new Multi-coin version of Electrum is currently under developement at github.com/mazaclub/encompass.  Encompass is based on the latest version of Electrum 2.0.  It works well, but the Trezor support has been disabled until the devs do more tests.  Encompass supports the major coins that have Electrum servers operational - Litecoin, Bitcoin, Viacoin, Mazacoin, and soon Darkcoin. One seed (and therefore one wallet) for ALL your coins - very convenient - you can switch from one coin to the other in a unique pull down menu, without stopping the client.

The official Trezor page can be found at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122438.3900;topicseen  - maybe you should redirect your question to those folks.


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February 24, 2015, 07:15:44 AM
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another option is ledgerwallet
ledgerwallet ia also a good hardware wallet and cheap in price compared to trezor
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February 24, 2015, 10:25:31 AM
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A new Multi-coin version of Electrum is currently under developement at github.com/mazaclub/encompass.  Encompass is based on the latest version of Electrum 2.0.  It works well, but the Trezor support has been disabled until the devs do more tests.  Encompass supports the major coins that have Electrum servers operational - Litecoin, Bitcoin, Viacoin, Mazacoin, and soon Darkcoin. One seed (and therefore one wallet) for ALL your coins - very convenient - you can switch from one coin to the other in a unique pull down menu, without stopping the client.
  I'm missing Dogecoin!

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February 25, 2015, 04:01:25 PM
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   ""I'm missing Dogecoin!""

 Already there my friend! http://www.dailydoge.org/2014/04/23/electrum-for-dogecoin/
https://github.com/paybee/electrum-doge
Coming soon...

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February 26, 2015, 07:33:45 AM
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  ""I'm missing Dogecoin!""

 Already there my friend! http://www.dailydoge.org/2014/04/23/electrum-for-dogecoin/
https://github.com/paybee/electrum-doge
Coming soon...

Coming soon?  Maybe, Not.... SUCH suspense...

When Dogecoin merged-mined with Litecoin, in 2014, they introduced AUX-POW.  The Electrum-Doge devs gave up (SAD) trying to figure out how to port Dogecoin to Electrum... what you see on those Github pages are pre-Aux-POW attempts.

But somewhere, shouldn't someone from the Doge community figure out a way to reach the moon?

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March 29, 2015, 01:28:17 AM
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I'm gonna have to vote for Trezor, definitively proved its worth to me.  Before I bought a Trezor I was using a raspberry pi cold storage.  Trezor works so much better than using a computer/notebook dedicated to acting as a wallet.  I don't lose any sleep over using a Trezor because my seeds is written down safely and nothing can happen to it, I could burn and smash my trezor and still be able to recover my funds.  The form factor is great to, with a netbook I doubt you want to carry that to a shop, and once more wallets support trezor on mobile systems it will be perfect solution.       
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