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October 29, 2013, 01:56:41 AM
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http://blog.ice-dice.com/post/65390305396/heres-how-i-fight-with-users-who-steal

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October 29, 2013, 01:59:14 AM
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October 29, 2013, 02:00:48 AM
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Nicely done...

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October 29, 2013, 02:06:37 AM
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That is how you take care of business boss.
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October 29, 2013, 02:19:31 AM
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All that work for 0.005 BTC? They probably figure they could setup 50 or so accounts and get lucky. Nice going though. That last sentence cracked me up.

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October 29, 2013, 04:06:46 AM
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All that work for 0.005 BTC? They probably figure they could setup 50 or so accounts and get lucky. Nice going though. That last sentence cracked me up.

Yeah I can't believe how much work they would do for 0.005btc too!

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October 29, 2013, 10:05:43 AM
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October 29, 2013, 10:28:23 AM
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Well done. There are many people who will try to cheat the system, just to earn a few cents. I'm glad you were able to keep the giveaways going for your legitimate players.
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October 29, 2013, 10:48:22 AM
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0.005btc, dang your giving away $1 per customer, of course it will get abused. mining on a 60Ghash avalon would take a couple hours to earn $1

there are people out there that have programmed an app to sign up to some easy sign up mail service and all that is required of them is to do the captcha manually (taking 2 seconds per account).  so lets say that they can make 15 twitter accounts and follow each other in 15 minutes then that is the equivalent to a 500Ghash unit.(60$ an hour). for something of this 'reward' you will always get scammers,

instead of giving out BTC, it would be better to offer 'free rolls' not using blockchain coins.. which will reduce the withdrawals without plays, but still getting people to use your service.

make it like a tutorial/fun section, get them to play the game and learn how to use it. and once its done they qualify for 'play for real' feature where they would go back to a 0 balance and deposit their own funds.

another addition could be that if after X wins on 'play for real' they have a chance to get their 'fun/tutorial' winnings added to their 'play for real' pot, but thats something that you would have to work out

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October 29, 2013, 09:10:14 PM
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0.005btc, dang your giving away $1 per customer, of course it will get abused. mining on a 60Ghash avalon would take a couple hours to earn $1

there are people out there that have programmed an app to sign up to some easy sign up mail service and all that is required of them is to do the captcha manually (taking 2 seconds per account).  so lets say that they can make 15 twitter accounts and follow each other in 15 minutes then that is the equivalent to a 500Ghash unit.(60$ an hour). for something of this 'reward' you will always get scammers,

instead of giving out BTC, it would be better to offer 'free rolls' not using blockchain coins.. which will reduce the withdrawals without plays, but still getting people to use your service.

make it like a tutorial/fun section, get them to play the game and learn how to use it. and once its done they qualify for 'play for real' feature where they would go back to a 0 balance and deposit their own funds.

another addition could be that if after X wins on 'play for real' they have a chance to get their 'fun/tutorial' winnings added to their 'play for real' pot, but thats something that you would have to work out

Hey thanks for the suggestions, I think without real money, dice game no longer has it's excitement though, but you have some good ideas and we will look into them.

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October 29, 2013, 09:16:50 PM
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I was expecting a picture of a Sopranos-type scene, but that works too Cheesy
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October 29, 2013, 09:25:21 PM
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I don't think stealing is the word for this.

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October 29, 2013, 09:31:53 PM
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I don't think stealing is the word for this.

It's for editorial spiciness

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October 29, 2013, 09:58:36 PM
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Great way to advertise your site too  Smiley  Give me some more coin to play lol

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October 29, 2013, 10:29:24 PM
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Have you considered doing what PrimeDice does? They give users 3000 satoishis which users are allowed to claim once per minute (up to a limit of 5000 satoshis). The withdrawal limit is 50,000 satoshis (0.0005 BTC) so in order to actually be able to withdraw, users need to gamble those initial fee satoshis to 16.666 times their initial value.

This event has such a low probability (less than 6%) that the maths protects them from big losses due to this giveaway, which is why they are able to offer this once per minute (obviously, they need a captcha to prevent bots from running riot on it).

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October 29, 2013, 11:50:05 PM
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Have you considered doing what PrimeDice does? They give users 3000 satoishis which users are allowed to claim once per minute (up to a limit of 5000 satoshis). The withdrawal limit is 50,000 satoshis (0.0005 BTC) so in order to actually be able to withdraw, users need to gamble those initial fee satoshis to 16.666 times their initial value.

This event has such a low probability (less than 6%) that the maths protects them from big losses due to this giveaway, which is why they are able to offer this once per minute (obviously, they need a captcha to prevent bots from running riot on it).

Cheers, Paul.

I tried their faucet, but 3000 Satoshi but I think thats too little and I hate doing captchas. We are giving out 500,000 satoshis in for clicking a follow button, and you can actually gamble hundreds of rounds to enjoy it. Personally I don't think the people who would spend their time doing captcha for 3000 satoshis is our target customer anyway.

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October 30, 2013, 03:16:50 AM
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Have you considered doing what PrimeDice does? They give users 3000 satoishis which users are allowed to claim once per minute (up to a limit of 5000 satoshis). The withdrawal limit is 50,000 satoshis (0.0005 BTC) so in order to actually be able to withdraw, users need to gamble those initial fee satoshis to 16.666 times their initial value.

This event has such a low probability (less than 6%) that the maths protects them from big losses due to this giveaway, which is why they are able to offer this once per minute (obviously, they need a captcha to prevent bots from running riot on it).

Cheers, Paul.

I tried their faucet, but 3000 Satoshi but I think thats too little and I hate doing captchas. We are giving out 500,000 satoshis in for clicking a follow button, and you can actually gamble hundreds of rounds to enjoy it. Personally I don't think the people who would spend their time doing captcha for 3000 satoshis is our target customer anyway.

your target customer base should not be:
*the "dust for salary" earners, so avoid withdrawable giveaways for little/no work,(captcha/follow me/like button/subscribe button)
*those that signup just to get givaway, so making it a tutorial, lengthy 'free- play" to waste their time, as they are HIGHLY unlikely going to deposit any/much into the games anyway.
those that truly want to gamble and will return time and time again like to see a easy sign-up and a nice free-play/tutorial so they can have some fun on so a free play round tutorial games would hook more people in. plus the word of mouth spreads around better that your system is fun and slightly better odds as ur not having to reduce the odds just to cover givaways

there is no point having 20,000 'likes' if it only, in reality means that 100 people can make 200 clone accounts which never go viral to actual people

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October 30, 2013, 04:04:28 AM
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Great! Simply great! Now what am I suppose to do with 7,000 Twitter accounts purchased solely for you site in the expectations that I would have earned a 3.14% ROI? I knew I should have purchased a Monarch instead.  Grin
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October 30, 2013, 04:08:57 AM
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Neat. I don't find random dice games particularly exciting, (for some reason I like to have silly card games to distract me from the fact that I'm doing essentially the same thing) but I doubled my bonus and invested it in the bank. Wink

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Then we added IP block to users who have redeemed, but these guys with fake twitter account seems to be able to get a new IP on demand
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IP ban in 2013? So much fail, so much fail.
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