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[TheQuin]

Would it not be an idea to only give RP to verified or premium users? So anybody owning 2500 FUN tokens (which is affordable for almost all members) could get the full amount of RP per freeroll or from referrals. I doubt that a lot of bot users would buy the tokens, so that can be a way to reduce abuse.

You would be amazed how many have bought 2500 for many accounts just so they can bot without captcha. At today's prices that's staking $50 to steal $50 every 3 months. When I catch them they quite often try to justify it by calling that making an investment.

[babygun]

Would it not be an idea to only give RP to verified or premium users? So anybody owning 2500 FUN tokens (which is affordable for almost all members) could get the full amount of RP per freeroll or from referrals. I doubt that a lot of bot users would buy the tokens, so that can be a way to reduce abuse.

You would be amazed how many have bought 2500 for many accounts just so they can bot without captcha. At today's prices that's staking $50 to steal $50 every 3 months. When I catch them they quite often try to justify it by calling that making an investment.

Damn, many are smarter than I thought lol. Other idea could be to only give RP to people that are already a longtime member of the site (i.e. if you are member longer than 1 year than you will be able to get RP ...).

[ethereumhunter]

Finally, I exchange my Point to get 100 points for every Rolls. Although that is only available 24 hours, I think that is good for me.

After this, maybe I will try with a 1000% free bonus in BTC or Lottery Ticket Bonus. Let see if that can give a chance to win

I realize that it will not be easy to compete with many people on that site. But I consider that will be just for fun.

I would prefer Reward Points in the first place, the second place is BTC bonus, but will only activate the BTC bonus if already get tens of satoshi/roll from a freeroll, while for the weekly lottery the chances of getting it are very small.

Thanks for the suggestion. I already end my Reward Points, so I think tomorrow, I will try with BTC bonus to get more rewards in BTC. Then after that finish, I can try the lottery, which I hope I can get my luck. I still have plenty of Points that I can use

[Timelord2067]

We've improved the bot detection a lot but with an incentive that large, it's like play Whac-A-Mole for me.

Surely a player who is online 24 hours per day, seven days a week is more likely to be a bot than someone who checks in once or twice per week?

Add to that said user plays once per hour to claim the few satoshis available (even if it does eventually add up) would also be a sure fire thumbprint of a bot?

[Bttzed03]

I just won 3800 points from today's promotional email (free WOF). Thanks! That puts me just above 80K and closer to the 100K RP minimum points for encashment.

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Damn, many are smarter than I thought lol.

They have a long term vision compared to other investors Who wouldn't want FUN token potential price increase + daily WOF spins + hourly rolls w/o captcha.

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[arallmuus]

Surely a player who is online 24 hours per day, seven days a week is more likely to be a bot than someone who checks in once or twice per week?

I honestly dont think that someone is dumb enough to give himself up by claiming 24 times a day with a bot. ( or do they? lol ). Back in the days I remembered that I tried to claim atleast 14 times after using the RP bonus lol and I think thats pretty much the limit even

Other idea could be to only give RP to people that are already a longtime member of the site (i.e. if you are member longer than 1 year than you will be able to get RP ...).

That would probably cut off large amount of freebitco.in players because most people probably registered after freebitco.in announced the WoF. Gotta be honest that WoF spins give alot more RP than free claim. Before that, I think you will need over 6 months just to get 1 mbtc from this site provided if you dont have any active referall

[Generalzod580]

Would it not be an idea to only give RP to verified or premium users? So anybody owning 2500 FUN tokens (which is affordable for almost all members) could get the full amount of RP per freeroll or from referrals. I doubt that a lot of bot users would buy the tokens, so that can be a way to reduce abuse.

You would be amazed how many have bought 2500 for many accounts just so they can bot without captcha. At today's prices that's staking $50 to steal $50 every 3 months. When I catch them they quite often try to justify it by calling that making an investment.

Then how about you put the simple solution back by putting captcha on the free rolls for users that claim more than 15 hours a day,
Because regardless of how many bots and investments people make i believe that the main thing encouraging them is the lack of captcha.
I used to be a criminal using bots too cuz i thought that the whole point of removing captcha after depositing or buying fun was to enable u automate the process.
However once the quinn explained to me that bots where a crime that defeats the whole purpose of the buisness model and service advertisement i have never used bots again, tho i dont sleep anymore either xd the rp 100k encash is just what everyone loves the most right now so i believe that adding captcha for hyper rollers like myself we wouldnt mind cuz it'd only take a second but bots would be deterred greatly.
Also asides from the login page there is no other warning sign against bots. Now i do not support bots in anyway but i believe there should be a sign against bots instead of only focusing on advertising products. much love to freebitco support i know u will come up with solutions that will favour genuine users

[dwyane36]

Surely a player who is online 24 hours per day, seven days a week is more likely to be a bot than someone who checks in once or twice per week?

I honestly dont think that someone is dumb enough to give himself up by claiming 24 times a day with a bot. ( or do they? lol ). Back in the days I remembered that I tried to claim atleast 14 times after using the RP bonus lol and I think thats pretty much the limit even

It's worth noting that the RP bonus doesn't look profitable for regular users because users need to claim it at least 12 times to recoup the cost of this bonus. I mean, it's really hard to remember about it throughout the working day. However, I have no doubt that some abusers are still trying to claim an RP bonus every hour and every day.

[Generalzod580]

Surely a player who is online 24 hours per day, seven days a week is more likely to be a bot than someone who checks in once or twice per week?

I honestly dont think that someone is dumb enough to give himself up by claiming 24 times a day with a bot. ( or do they? lol ). Back in the days I remembered that I tried to claim atleast 14 times after using the RP bonus lol and I think thats pretty much the limit even

It's worth noting that the RP bonus doesn't look profitable for regular users because users need to claim it at least 12 times to recoup the cost of this bonus. I mean, it's really hard to remember about it throughout the working day. However, I have no doubt that some abusers are still trying to claim an RP bonus every hour and every day.

Take note: using the faucet 24/7 doesnt make you an abuser. I do and for the past few months i average 19 to 21 hours a day without breaking a sweat, simply set alarms during the day by checking ur last claim via the multiply btc history. Just because it is difficult for u doesnt make it abuse unless the person is using bots or multi accounting then that i s abuse

[TheQuin]

Surely a player who is online 24 hours per day, seven days a week is more likely to be a bot than someone who checks in once or twice per week?

I honestly dont think that someone is dumb enough to give himself up by claiming 24 times a day with a bot. ( or do they? lol ). Back in the days I remembered that I tried to claim atleast 14 times after using the RP bonus lol and I think thats pretty much the limit even

People who abuse faucets are not always the smartest. Many thousands of them are dumb enough to do that. Back when I was a customer 14 would be a minimum for days I was claiming RP bonuses. Because I worked all day sat at a computer it only took a couple of seconds to switch tabs and click roll and I could do a few more in the evening so maybe 15 or 16 total. I even managed 23 one day because I'm a bit of a politics geek and I stayed up all night to watch general election results.

Take note: using the faucet 24/7 doesnt make you an abuser. I do and for the past few months i average 19 to 21 hours a day without breaking a sweat, simply set alarms during the day by checking ur last claim via the multiply btc history. Just because it is difficult for u doesnt make it abuse unless the person is using bots or multi accounting then that i s abuse

If someone plays 19 to 21 every day then they have a game addiction and should seek help. Bot detection is a lot more complex than just counting how many rolls someone does. Some botters are smart enough to use 3x the number of accounts only doing 8 rolls a day each.

It's worth noting that the RP bonus doesn't look profitable for regular users because users need to claim it at least 12 times to recoup the cost of this bonus. I mean, it's really hard to remember about it throughout the working day. However, I have no doubt that some abusers are still trying to claim an RP bonus every hour and every day.

The bottom line here is that at $50K BTC the 100 RP bonus pays 50 cents a day and that's too expensive to continue even for real users. The increased value of RP has also made the 1000% Free BTC bonus payout less than it costs to redeem. So there are some adjustments coming soon.

[Maasdamer]

Short question.

In the beginning my minimum free BTC "win" was 0.00000004 BTC , now its 0.00000003 BTC with the note "Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your minimum prize ".

Sometimes it goes back to 0.00000004 but now its the smaller number for some days.

Will it stay like that if I dont play the things they request?

[TheQuin]

Short question.

In the beginning my minimum free BTC "win" was 0.00000004 BTC , now its 0.00000003 BTC with the note "Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your minimum prize ".

Sometimes it goes back to 0.00000004 but now its the smaller number for some days.

Will it stay like that if I dont play the things they request?

Yes. The low wagering reduction is calculated on a combination of your balance and amount wagered in ratio to your total free winnings.

[UserU]

Take note: using the faucet 24/7 doesnt make you an abuser. I do and for the past few months i average 19 to 21 hours a day without breaking a sweat, simply set alarms during the day by checking ur last claim via the multiply btc history. Just because it is difficult for u doesnt make it abuse unless the person is using bots or multi accounting then that i s abuse

You'd rather sacrifice your sleep just for the free rolls? Bruh...

[16xypjnxlrew]

Please learn to read. I said we are NOT going to devalue them. The overall total given away needs to be reduced.

I'm talking about reducing the number of free rolls by 10 times

[TheQuin]

Please learn to read. I said we are NOT going to devalue them. The overall total given away needs to be reduced.

I'm talking about reducing the number of free rolls by 10 times

I'm not so please stop making things up. I said we have to reduce the overall total RP given for free and you jumped to that incorrect conclusion.

[16xypjnxlrew]

I'm not so please stop making things up. I said we have to reduce the overall total RP given for free and you jumped to that incorrect conclusion.

How many times to reduce? And what exactly will be reduced? Wager? Free roll?

[TheQuin]

I'm not so please stop making things up. I said we have to reduce the overall total RP given for free and you jumped to that incorrect conclusion.

How many times to reduce? And what exactly will be reduced? Wager? Free roll?

I stopped preannouncing things years ago because I discovered that wetsuit has a habit of changing his mind at the last moment and doing something completely different. You will just have to wait and see like everyone else.

[16xypjnxlrew]

That's the main problem at the moment. The increased value of RP has encouraged a huge increase in bots abusing the RP bonuses. At today's prices, they are stealing $0.50 cents a day per account and it only takes a little over3 months to get to a payout of $50.
We've improved the bot detection a lot but with an incentive that large, it's like play Whac-A-Mole for me.

Wetsuit gave you tremendous power, tell me, have you ever thought of using it for selfish purposes? (Robbery of users). E-mail and forum are completely under your control, there is no way to complain directly without you. Does he absolutely trust you?

[mindrust]

Wetsuit gave you tremendous power, tell me, have you ever thought of using it for selfish purposes? (Robbery of users). E-mail and forum are completely under your control, there is no way to complain directly without you. Does he absolutely trust you?

He answered this many times before but if you follow your common sense, you would find the answer by your own. Yes wetsuit trusts him and no he didn't steal from him. If he wasn't good at his job, he wouldn't be here still managing freebitco.in don't you think?

I am pretty sure wetsuit did a good security check on TheQuin's account before he decided to employ him.