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I just won 3500 lottery tickets on WOF from the daily spins (premium member) and 3500 reward points from the promotional email. When it rains, it pours they said  (seriously, it's been raining the whole day here)
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Collect as many tickets as you can by wagering and free spins to increase your chance of winning up to $7,500 in BTC on the coming Sunday. Congratulations to the 10 Lucky Winners of Lottery Round 332.
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I just won 3500 lottery tickets on WOF from the daily spins (premium member) and 3500 reward points from the promotional email. When it rains, it pours they said  (seriously, it's been raining the whole day here) Its so disappointing to me winning tickets, becouse at the end win people with less then 200 tickets like the previus winners.  Imagine producing 150 tickets a week and win 0.99 btc mindblow https://i.ibb.co/Bq7L5yB/Screenshot-20211011-145436.jpg
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I was wondering if theres any open position for a job, i have experience in graphic, social media menaging, trouble shooting assistence support service, i speak 4 lenguages. Im pretty open to any needed position.
TheQuin is right. The jobs should come to you. If you have these qualities, you should open up a thread in the services section ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0) and offer your services there. There are many people who make signatures, websites, translate pages etc getting jobs from there. Don't limit yourself with one option.
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October 11, 2021, 01:29:54 PM |
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I just won 3500 lottery tickets on WOF from the daily spins (premium member) and 3500 reward points from the promotional email. When it rains, it pours they said  (seriously, it's been raining the whole day here) Its so disappointing to me winning tickets, becouse at the end win people with less then 200 tickets like the previus winners.  Imagine producing 150 tickets a week and win 0.99 btc mindblow  I know cases of people who bought only one lottery ticket and won it (not freebito.in). This is what the lottery is about, that no system can win if someone is simply out of luck. Of course, the probability of winning is higher when you have more tickets, but with such a huge number of players, even hundreds of thousands of tickets, unfortunately, may not be enough.
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October 11, 2021, 01:33:19 PM |
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I just won 3500 lottery tickets on WOF from the daily spins (premium member) and 3500 reward points from the promotional email. When it rains, it pours they said  (seriously, it's been raining the whole day here) Its so disappointing to me winning tickets, becouse at the end win people with less then 200 tickets like the previus winners.  Imagine producing 150 tickets a week and win 0.99 btc mindblow https://i.ibb.co/Bq7L5yB/Screenshot-20211011-145436.jpgI know cases of people who bought only one lottery ticket and won it (not freebito.in). This is what the lottery is about, that no system can win if someone is simply out of luck. Of course, the probability of winning is higher when you have more tickets, but with such a huge number of players, even hundreds of thousands of tickets, unfortunately, may not be enough. Im new here, i will give it a look, thanks
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October 11, 2021, 01:41:10 PM |
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I just won 3500 lottery tickets on WOF from the daily spins (premium member) and 3500 reward points from the promotional email. When it rains, it pours they said  (seriously, it's been raining the whole day here) Its so disappointing to me winning tickets, becouse at the end win people with less then 200 tickets like the previus winners.  Imagine producing 150 tickets a week and win 0.99 btc mindblow ~ Well it's called lottery for good reason. It's true that the more tickets you hold, the higher chance you get but it's never a guarantee. It could take years or it could never come at all. It doesn't disappoint me anymore because I'm already used to not winning it  (I had over 7000 tickets in the last round).
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October 11, 2021, 02:02:31 PM |
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Some stats from round 332: 596,248 accounts participated; 92,949 new UID's since previous round; 7,734 accounts with a single ticket; 50 accounts with more than 100,000 tickets; Top ticket holders 2,766,671 tickets (UID 8510301), 2,336,411 - (41259460), 1,090,756 - (18390800). https://imgur.com/P4EQsWn
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October 11, 2021, 02:42:49 PM |
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I have done this several times and these were the results I got:
That's pretty amazing thanks for sharing and I must congratulate you doubly for saving those screenshots! I wish I'd saved more of my amazing hits (including getting 0000 on freeroll before which to me is 2nd most amazing roll to hit;) ). I have thought about saving up but in the end I think it's better to have many chances in many lottery rounds, rather than save up for 1 big lottery round and still not win. Anyway, that is another gamble in the end I guess
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I just won 3500 lottery tickets on WOF from the daily spins (premium member) and 3500 reward points from the promotional email. When it rains, it pours they said  (seriously, it's been raining the whole day here) Its so disappointing to me winning tickets, becouse at the end win people with less then 200 tickets like the previus winners.  Imagine producing 150 tickets a week and win 0.99 btc mindblow ~ Well it's called lottery for good reason. It's true that the more tickets you hold, the higher chance you get but it's never a guarantee. It could take years or it could never come at all. It doesn't disappoint me anymore because I'm already used to not winning it  (I had over 7000 tickets in the last round). Who's hoping to win the lottery if everyone gets a lottery ticket and the majority of freebitco.in users have a lot of lottery tickets? The likelihood of winning a lottery is quite low. If everyone has the same number of lottery tickets, you have no advantage in a lottery, and it's called a lottery for a reason: it's difficult to win even if you put all of your money into it. I'm also used to it, not hoping to win the lottery especially if you have low lottery tickets.
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I just won 3500 lottery tickets on WOF from the daily spins (premium member) and 3500 reward points from the promotional email. When it rains, it pours they said  (seriously, it's been raining the whole day here) Its so disappointing to me winning tickets, becouse at the end win people with less then 200 tickets like the previus winners.  Imagine producing 150 tickets a week and win 0.99 btc mindblow ~ Well it's called lottery for good reason. It's true that the more tickets you hold, the higher chance you get but it's never a guarantee. It could take years or it could never come at all. It doesn't disappoint me anymore because I'm already used to not winning it  (I had over 7000 tickets in the last round). Therefore, when taking part in the lottery, you should not expect to win, because as you wrote, it may never come. The best thing is just to treat it as fun and if we win it will be a nice surprise. On the other hand, it is curious if there are users here who are trying to collect as many tickets as possible (in the statistics, you can see that there are about 50 for those with a number over 100k) only to win .. and if they ever managed to win anything.. 
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It is still clear to me that 99% of the time favorite team will end up with worse odds here because it is (whatever the real name for this method is) based on player vs player betting. So let's assume Real Madrid vs Getafe plays one day, in other method you may see 1.40 vs 9.00 odds right? I am just making up the numbers here, and let's assume you come and check here for the same thing, you "usually" see 1.27 odds for Real Madrid BUT you see 15.00 odds for Getafe, once again numbers are made up.
Do not focus on the numbers because I just wrote anything there, I just wanted to explain the mindset, so if you ever believe underdogs will win, then this place has probably the biggest possible return for that ever, do it early and you will get one of the highest ever. However the favorites usually do not get that much of a return here to be fair.
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It is still clear to me that 99% of the time favorite team will end up with worse odds here because it is (whatever the real name for this method is) based on player vs player betting. So let's assume Real Madrid vs Getafe plays one day, in other method you may see 1.40 vs 9.00 odds right? I am just making up the numbers here, and let's assume you come and check here for the same thing, you "usually" see 1.27 odds for Real Madrid BUT you see 15.00 odds for Getafe, once again numbers are made up.
Do not focus on the numbers because I just wrote anything there, I just wanted to explain the mindset, so if you ever believe underdogs will win, then this place has probably the biggest possible return for that ever, do it early and you will get one of the highest ever. However the favorites usually do not get that much of a return here to be fair.
Not true my friend , all possibilitys are dows, favorite,draw and underdog And what Quinn says, that we gain more that the odds because of TIME WEIGHT MULTIPLIER , i dont want say this is not true, but im a ussual bettor here , and i never win more than the real odds are there, i win almost less , because the odds until the game dropped, and maybe we win what the end of market says in odds. i love this site in everything , people are genuine, great project,and representative in forum veri active, are great,but in bets ,thas my best part, its (sorry the words) the worst i can see, sorry for the words, freebitc still nº1 for me in their industry.
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October 11, 2021, 03:32:54 PM |
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I have done this several times and these were the results I got:
That's pretty amazing thanks for sharing and I must congratulate you doubly for saving those screenshots! I wish I'd saved more of my amazing hits (including getting 0000 on freeroll before which to me is 2nd most amazing roll to hit;) ). I have thought about saving up but in the end I think it's better to have many chances in many lottery rounds, rather than save up for 1 big lottery round and still not win. Anyway, that is another gamble in the end I guess I hitted 0 once hoped for a bonus https://i.postimg.cc/k4S18GwY/received-1175350092946564.webphttps://i.postimg.cc/nV7YG6x5/Screenshot-20211011-172010.jpg
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October 11, 2021, 03:52:25 PM |
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I have done this several times and these were the results I got:
That's pretty amazing thanks for sharing and I must congratulate you doubly for saving those screenshots! I wish I'd saved more of my amazing hits (including getting 0000 on freeroll before which to me is 2nd most amazing roll to hit;) ). I have thought about saving up but in the end I think it's better to have many chances in many lottery rounds, rather than save up for 1 big lottery round and still not win. Anyway, that is another gamble in the end I guess I hitted 0 once hoped for a bonus    As I wrote before, take it as fun in your spare time and you will see that it will be cool. If you ever manage to win, it will be even more fun  Freebitco.in is constantly evolving, so I'm sure we will see new things soon that will be even more interesting and give us new opportunities to win something extra. 
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Well it's called lottery for good reason. It's true that the more tickets you hold, the higher chance you get but it's never a guarantee. It could take years or it could never come at all. It doesn't disappoint me anymore because I'm already used to not winning it  (I had over 7000 tickets in the last round). From the above stats and last round we can just agree with your words, it's a lottery for a good reason, in the end, the number of tickets is not so important! Of course, it's better when you have more, but that doesn't mean anything really! I can only relate, I don't feel disappointed anymore... In 5 years I didn't get in the top 10 even once! But I am still trying!
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The lottery is going to have a bias towards the largest whale bettors, that is as it should be and also in proportion it still allows everyone a chance no matter how slim. Im reckon Im drawing on my half forgotten stats lessons here but its valid to categorize probabilities which are equal when considering the likelihood of an overall outcome. So if there perhaps is a million people with 10 tickets and one big player accumulated 10 million tickets, individually the little players garner ( 50% / 1m ) chance their exact 10 tickets popping up; while the big player with far more tickets has a 50% chance of winning but if considering either category collectively their chances are equal. This is why it gets puzzling when the little guy can come through with such an unlikely win, there was always some chance and alot of the time people are getting free entries as well but altogether to consider outcome result per ticket odds the masses of people may have equal or even greater chances then the largest bettors of collecting the weekly lottery. Thats how I view it and I might be off on whether that's the correct way to arrange odds.
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It is still clear to me that 99% of the time favorite team will end up with worse odds here because it is (whatever the real name for this method is) based on player vs player betting. So let's assume Real Madrid vs Getafe plays one day, in other method you may see 1.40 vs 9.00 odds right? I am just making up the numbers here, and let's assume you come and check here for the same thing, you "usually" see 1.27 odds for Real Madrid BUT you see 15.00 odds for Getafe, once again numbers are made up.
Do not focus on the numbers because I just wrote anything there, I just wanted to explain the mindset, so if you ever believe underdogs will win, then this place has probably the biggest possible return for that ever, do it early and you will get one of the highest ever. However the favorites usually do not get that much of a return here to be fair.
Don't spread fakenews and bullshits here bro, I don't know where you have got those numbers, but they are totally wrong. If you take into account all the bonuses you get when you place a bet here, most of the times odds for the favorites are above those you can find elsewhere even with a small weight multiplier. You should try to bet here before spreading hoaxes like that.
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October 11, 2021, 11:55:22 PM |
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It is still clear to me that 99% of the time favorite team will end up with worse odds here because it is (whatever the real name for this method is) based on player vs player betting. So let's assume Real Madrid vs Getafe plays one day, in other method you may see 1.40 vs 9.00 odds right? I am just making up the numbers here, and let's assume you come and check here for the same thing, you "usually" see 1.27 odds for Real Madrid BUT you see 15.00 odds for Getafe, once again numbers are made up.
Do not focus on the numbers because I just wrote anything there, I just wanted to explain the mindset, so if you ever believe underdogs will win, then this place has probably the biggest possible return for that ever, do it early and you will get one of the highest ever. However the favorites usually do not get that much of a return here to be fair.
Don't spread fakenews and bullshits here bro, I don't know where you have got those numbers, but they are totally wrong. If you take into account all the bonuses you get when you place a bet here, most of the times odds for the favorites are above those you can find elsewhere even with a small weight multiplier. You should try to bet here before spreading hoaxes like that. I don't know why you're being so aggressive about something that can be easily proven to be false. Looking at the expired bets, the first one I saw where I knew there was an obvious favourite is Espanyol vs Real Madrid. FreeBitcoin had these odds (with an time weight multiplier of 0x):  We'll focus on the favourite (Real Madrid), which has odds of 1.16 without a time multiplier. Let's assume you placed a bet with a 50x weight multiplier, which I think is definitely at least a "small" weight multiplier. It means your profit would be increased by 50% effectively, giving you odds of 1.24. Let's consider bonuses now. If you held 500k FUN tokens (worth roughly $10k USD at current pricing) for 360 days, you would have 1% cashback on your bet. You also get other perks, being 1 lottery ticket and 1 reward point per 500 sats wagered and a free golden ticket for every 500k satoshis wagered. A reward point is worth 1 satoshi, and a lottery ticket costs 1 satoshi, which we will value at 1 satoshi even though the EV from the ticket is going to be less than 1 satoshi. A golden ticket costs 25k satoshis, but is definitely worth way less [1] considering the EV. However, to benefit you the most, I'll also count it as 25k satoshi value. Let's say we bet 1 BTC on Real Madrid, and assume that odds aren't changed. Upon winning the bet, we would profit 0.24 BTC. From just placing the bet, we would get 0.01 BTC in cashback, 200000 reward points (0.002 BTC), 200000 lottery tickets (0.002 BTC) and 200 golden tickets (0.05 BTC with a huge asterisk). Effectively, this becomes a 1 BTC - (0.01 BTC + 0.002 BTC + 0.002 BTC + 0.05 BTC) = 0.936 BTC bet to win 0.24 BTC, for odds of 1.26. When the Espanyol vs Real Madrid market closed on traditional books, you could easily find odds of at least 1.60 if not higher (Pinnacle was offering 1.68, and is known to be a book that does not limit winners). By placing a bet on FreeBitcoin with the maximum benefits, valuing lottery/golden tickets at their purchases price and not the EV, and with a generous 50x time multiplier (since you mentioned a "small" weight multiplier), your odds would be at least 0.34 lower than a traditional sportsbook for this specific outcome in this specific market. In other words, your profit would be more than halved. I'm not going to go into this much detail for other markets, but just by browsing through the history, you can see a lot of markets where betting the favourite on FreeBitcoin ended up being significantly worse off than betting the favourite on another site. On the other side, had you bet on Espanyol with a 50x time multiplier, your odds would be at least 8.50, which is significantly higher than the ~5.80 you could find on other sportsbooks excluding bonuses. TLDR: Sometimes FreeBitcoin is way worse, way better or about the same when you compare betting odds for events. It's false to say that most of the time betting favourites on FreeBitcoin is a better deal, especially with a small time multiplier. [1]Last golden ticket draw had a prize of just 3.96 BTC, with 2,895,004 tickets in play. This gives each ticket an EV of 0.00000137 BTC (137 satoshis), a huge difference from the 25k satoshi price.
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October 12, 2021, 12:53:16 AM Merited by DarkStar_ (10) |
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The lottery is going to have a bias towards the largest whale bettors, that is as it should be and also in proportion it still allows everyone a chance no matter how slim. Im reckon Im drawing on my half forgotten stats lessons here but its valid to categorize probabilities which are equal when considering the likelihood of an overall outcome. So if there perhaps is a million people with 10 tickets and one big player accumulated 10 million tickets, individually the little players garner ( 50% / 1m ) chance their exact 10 tickets popping up; while the big player with far more tickets has a 50% chance of winning but if considering either category collectively their chances are equal. This is why it gets puzzling when the little guy can come through with such an unlikely win, there was always some chance and alot of the time people are getting free entries as well but altogether to consider outcome result per ticket odds the masses of people may have equal or even greater chances then the largest bettors of collecting the weekly lottery. Thats how I view it and I might be off on whether that's the correct way to arrange odds.
I think that is a good way of looking at it. if you break ticket holders into groups you get this: group with 1 to 500 tkts ~20% tkts; 500-3,000 - ~10%; 3,000-5,000 ~45%; 5,000-10,000 ~10%; 10,000-100,000 ~10%; 100,000+ ~5%. So even though individually whales have better chances than other players as a group they are less likely to win than any other group. The largest group is people with 3-5K tickets and we see a lot of them among the winners.
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