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[UserU]

yes it's true it doesn't require CMC let alone coinecko to see the bitcoin price go up and down, but not sure we can know exactly at the value of the bitcoin price, if we see the hourly roll prize is decreasing it's a sign that the bitcoin price is going up, if we see the hourly roll prize an increase is a sign that the bitcoin price is going down, so that's why playing freebitcoin when the bitcoin price is down is better 

Be sure to utilize the 1,000% extra base prize with the RPs when that happens.

[swogerino]

so that's why playing freebitcoin when the bitcoin price is down is better 

You're right. The period when the BTC is trading at a low price is the best time to be more active on the freebitcoin site. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the base prizes from the Wheel of Fortune will start to decrease when the BTC price reaches a range of $27-30k. So if some users have accumulated a lot of spins, they should use all of them soon as it looks like the bearish trend is gradually ending.

Let's hope that the bearish trend ends but I would not care much about the Wheel of Fortune,whatever prizes we get it is an added bonus to our Premium Membership.I would love to see the prize of Bitcoin to 27-30K range again as I have mined some really low value coins like Raptoreum and whatever increase they see I would be happy with the profits.I think that the people who have accumulated a lot of spins usually they use them before the weekly lottery draw or if they opt to take them longer,they use them before the Lambo draw in order to have more chances to get more tickets.

[PawGo]

You're right. The period when the BTC is trading at a low price is the best time to be more active on the freebitcoin site. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the base prizes from the Wheel of Fortune will start to decrease when the BTC price reaches a range of $27-30k. So if some users have accumulated a lot of spins, they should use all of them soon as it looks like the bearish trend is gradually ending.

That's a good remark. What I do recently is to collect premium WOFs and execute only daily emails WOFs. I do not remember what is the exact price to have base prize decreased, but I think I will execute my WOFs around 25k.
The other side-effect of BTC price is price of FUN token, now it is still quite high, but we already see it decreased from 38 to 36 sats with the recent BTC price change.

[pawanjain]

so that's why playing freebitcoin when the bitcoin price is down is better 

You're right. The period when the BTC is trading at a low price is the best time to be more active on the freebitcoin site. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the base prizes from the Wheel of Fortune will start to decrease when the BTC price reaches a range of $27-30k. So if some users have accumulated a lot of spins, they should use all of them soon as it looks like the bearish trend is gradually ending.

Let's hope that the bearish trend ends but I would not care much about the Wheel of Fortune,whatever prizes we get it is an added bonus to our Premium Membership.I would love to see the prize of Bitcoin to 27-30K range again as I have mined some really low value coins like Raptoreum and whatever increase they see I would be happy with the profits.I think that the people who have accumulated a lot of spins usually they use them before the weekly lottery draw or if they opt to take them longer,they use them before the Lambo draw in order to have more chances to get more tickets.

BTC price going back to $30k means a 50% increase which is really good returns and I have seen in the last few 3-4 months some altcoins have already made 100% gains.
Besides that, accumulating free WoF spins and using all of them once in a week is good thing in my perspective because that gives us rewards as per DCA strategy.
So we need not worry if the price of bitcoin is bearish or bullish because at one point we will get the average returns from the WoF spins.

[Captain Corporate]

I can't wait for them to be collected as a whole group and then gamble, it just doesn't feel like something that gives me more, plus I have too much fun to keep waiting, sometimes I am forcefully waiting because I have some other stuff in my life that I have to take care of, that's why it may happen like that, but I do not think that it will really matter.

However, I agree with the 30k+ situation, if we could end up collecting as much as possible here, then what we collect is not actually what we collect, its something more, it's just temporarily low looking but when the price goes up it will be much higher. Many people have made a decent amount of money by grinding here back in the day and waiting for the price to go up.

[STT]

so that's why playing freebitcoin when the bitcoin price is down is better  

You're right. The period when the BTC is trading at a low price is the best time to be more active on the freebitcoin site. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the base prizes from the Wheel of Fortune will start to decrease when the BTC price reaches a range of $27-30k. So if some users have accumulated a lot of spins, they should use all of them soon as it looks like the bearish trend is gradually ending.

I dont really agree with storing spins once the prize has got to its limit then just use them.  If its a Satoshi BTC reward then you get interest compound and so on etc.   Holding FUN token and locking can give quite generous bonus and that is probably in excess of any other strategy to withholding spending with this particular site.   Its going to take a year for Bitcoin to develop any proper retake of its prior pricing upto 50k so you might as well lock for a longer period at least 90 days is quite fair, imo 180 and even 360 is going to work out.    My mistake in prior rallys was to sell too early so maybe the longer lock is for the best though I would not purely do one time frame.
  I think the whole pricing and variance in the FUN price is subject to long term factors and the momentum in the price action has greater weight then people might have expected, much like BTC itself.   So I would roughly equate that to a tide going out, Im quite sure it'll return but on its own timescale not ours.

Right this moment Im quite bullish with the current view of BTC attitude, in this instant I believe its acting well.   I already said that it was quietly confident for BTC to withstand DXY twenty year highs as a burden imo that was/is a show of strength to hold up even at 'lower' pricing.  But this recent consideration is within a brief range perhaps upto the daily bars on a graph, to gain the larger amounts its requiring epic stone foundations to be moved into place and reassembled, its a different magnitude more fitting to weekly and monthly bars on a graph.   So patience lots of it is required for holding here or anywhere in crypto imo, to be negative now is not beneficial when it'll come in time.    Anyhow considering Nov price bet, I might look at the higher bets since we are resolving positively imo despite disappointing flat finish to Oct price;  I will just have to hope it doesnt reverse in a backtrack on the 30th thats always the gamble.

[Flexystar]

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I can't wait for them to be collected as a whole group and then gamble, it just doesn't feel like something that gives me more, plus I have too much fun to keep waiting, sometimes I am forcefully waiting because I have some other stuff in my life that I have to take care of, that's why it may happen like that, but I do not think that it will really matter.

However, I agree with the 30k+ situation, if we could end up collecting as much as possible here, then what we collect is not actually what we collect, its something more, it's just temporarily low looking but when the price goes up it will be much higher. Many people have made a decent amount of money by grinding here back in the day and waiting for the price to go up.

Yeah, it does nothing. It just gives you accumulated winning so you feel like you have won a lot of prizes. For example, in my last years cycle I have always been collecting more than 100 WOF and then use to spin them. Back then the returns were very high and I assume that was because of the new program launch offer they kept the ROI for the users on the higher scale. Used to get 5K many times whether it is RP or Sats, it was always a profit.

These days I am applying the same strategy but I am not really sure if I am winning on the same scale this year's cycle. However, I have always been positive about the FUN premium program and motivating everyone in my circle to HODL the FUNS all the time. Benefits are higher than the losses for sure.

[uneng]

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I can't wait for them to be collected as a whole group and then gamble, it just doesn't feel like something that gives me more, plus I have too much fun to keep waiting, sometimes I am forcefully waiting because I have some other stuff in my life that I have to take care of, that's why it may happen like that, but I do not think that it will really matter.

However, I agree with the 30k+ situation, if we could end up collecting as much as possible here, then what we collect is not actually what we collect, its something more, it's just temporarily low looking but when the price goes up it will be much higher. Many people have made a decent amount of money by grinding here back in the day and waiting for the price to go up.

Yeah, it does nothing. It just gives you accumulated winning so you feel like you have won a lot of prizes. For example, in my last years cycle I have always been collecting more than 100 WOF and then use to spin them. Back then the returns were very high and I assume that was because of the new program launch offer they kept the ROI for the users on the higher scale. Used to get 5K many times whether it is RP or Sats, it was always a profit.

These days I am applying the same strategy but I am not really sure if I am winning on the same scale this year's cycle. However, I have always been positive about the FUN premium program and motivating everyone in my circle to HODL the FUNS all the time. Benefits are higher than the losses for sure.

I'm sure we are winning less from wheel these days. I've observed to be receiving too many lottery tickets rewards when compared to satoshis and RPs prizes. Moreover, the incidence of medium (500) and high (5000) prizes have decreased considerably.

Premium program is great for bitcoin and FUN investors, since you can earn interest on your holdings, but the wheel feature has become just a detail to entertain enthusiasts.

[Poker Player]

I've just bet for the first time in sports betting at freebitco.in.

I bet on Liverpool to win and they won. I guess it takes a while for the money to be credited to the account, right? It's been a while since the match finished and I don't see it.

[hosseinimr93]

I've observed to be receiving too many lottery tickets rewards when compared to satoshis and RPs prizes.

The chance of winning 50 reward points, 50 lottery tickets and 50 satoshi are equal to each other.
If you have won the 50 lottery tickets prize more than the two other prizes, that's just because of your luck.

Moreover, the incidence of medium (500) and high (5000) prizes have decreased considerably.

That's not something new. It's been a long time since the chance of winning each of 500 lottery tickets, 500 reward points and 500 satoshi prizes has decreased from 2% to 0.2%.
Also, the chance of winning each of 5000 reward points and 5000 satoshi is 0.1% and the chance of winning 5000 lottery tickets is 0.2%.

I bet on Liverpool to win and they won. I guess it takes a while for the money to be credited to the account, right? It's been a while since the match finished and I don't see it.

From freebitco's website:
"Winners will be declared and paid out within 48 hours of the event ending."

[swogerino]

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I can't wait for them to be collected as a whole group and then gamble, it just doesn't feel like something that gives me more, plus I have too much fun to keep waiting, sometimes I am forcefully waiting because I have some other stuff in my life that I have to take care of, that's why it may happen like that, but I do not think that it will really matter.

However, I agree with the 30k+ situation, if we could end up collecting as much as possible here, then what we collect is not actually what we collect, its something more, it's just temporarily low looking but when the price goes up it will be much higher. Many people have made a decent amount of money by grinding here back in the day and waiting for the price to go up.

Yeah, it does nothing. It just gives you accumulated winning so you feel like you have won a lot of prizes. For example, in my last years cycle I have always been collecting more than 100 WOF and then use to spin them. Back then the returns were very high and I assume that was because of the new program launch offer they kept the ROI for the users on the higher scale. Used to get 5K many times whether it is RP or Sats, it was always a profit.

These days I am applying the same strategy but I am not really sure if I am winning on the same scale this year's cycle. However, I have always been positive about the FUN premium program and motivating everyone in my circle to HODL the FUNS all the time. Benefits are higher than the losses for sure.

I'm sure we are winning less from wheel these days. I've observed to be receiving too many lottery tickets rewards when compared to satoshis and RPs prizes. Moreover, the incidence of medium (500) and high (5000) prizes have decreased considerably.

Premium program is great for bitcoin and FUN investors, since you can earn interest on your holdings, but the wheel feature has become just a detail to entertain enthusiasts.

While I strongly agree with you that those 500 and 5000 prizes have decreased considerably I also think that if you collect like 200 WoF and play like 200 during one day but not by clicking Play all button but to Play one,meaning to spin 200 times the wheel of fortune I am sure that you will find at least several 500 prizes and maybe one 5000 prize and why not even one or more Golden Tickets.

If you keep clicking them daily and if you have for example like 10 of them of course 99.99% of the time you will keep getting only those base prizes.I am an enthusiast in the sense that I always hope to win the biggest prize,also hope to win the lottery ticket every Sunday yet I keep on missing them  .

[hosseinimr93]

I also think that if you collect like 200 WoF and play like 200 during one day but not by clicking Play all button but to Play one,meaning to spin 200 times the wheel of fortune I am sure that you will find at least several 500 prizes and maybe one 5000 prize and why not even one or more Golden Tickets.

Since the game is provably fair, the number is determined randomly and each roll is completely independent from other rolls, there is no difference between spinning the wheel of fortune 200 times in a day and spinning it once a day for 200 days.
Also, it doesn't matter whether you play them one by one or play all with a single click.

[swogerino]

I also think that if you collect like 200 WoF and play like 200 during one day but not by clicking Play all button but to Play one,meaning to spin 200 times the wheel of fortune I am sure that you will find at least several 500 prizes and maybe one 5000 prize and why not even one or more Golden Tickets.

Since the game is provably fair, the number is determined randomly and each roll is completely independent from other rolls, there is no difference between spinning the wheel of fortune 200 times in a day and spinning it once a day for 200 days.
Also, it doesn't matter whether you play them one by one or play all with a single click.

I understand what you say and I agree.Clicking it one by one gives you that feeling that you see the wheel of fortune spin and I know that is a predetermined roll but it gives you that adrenaline that clicking play all never gives you.

I think that clicking 200 spins within a day has much more chances of giving you more than the base prizes than the chances are by clicking a single spin for 200 days,that is just my observation which I got from my personal experience by playing the spins and I am no expert in math as I have already said before.

And one last question how come the game is provably fair when at first when they introduced the wheel of fortune spins the 5000 prizes fell much more often than after they changed the algorithm or I don't know what?

[hosseinimr93]

and I know that is a predetermined roll

The rolls aren't predetermined.
The house doesn't know the outcome before you click the "play" button.

I think that clicking 200 spins within a day has much more chances of giving you more than the base prizes than the chances are by clicking a single spin for 200 days

Wrong.

And one last question how come the game is provably fair when at first when they introduced the wheel of fortune spins the 5000 prizes fell much more often than after they changed the algorithm or I don't know what?

They have decreased the chance of winning big prizes, but that doesn't mean the game isn't provably fair.
"The game is provably fair" means that you know how the outcome is determined before you play and you can verify the rolls. In a provably fair game, there is nothing hidden from the users and there is no way for the house to cheat you.

[TheQuin]

I bet on Liverpool to win and they won. I guess it takes a while for the money to be credited to the account, right? It's been a while since the match finished and I don't see it.

From freebitco's website:
"Winners will be declared and paid out within 48 hours of the event ending."

I usually get to do the payouts within 24 hours but 48 covers me for any occasion that I can't get to a secure internet connection.

and I know that is a predetermined roll

The rolls aren't predetermined.
The house doesn't know the outcome before you click the "play" button.

Just to clarify that when you click play you send us your client seed and as that is one of the 3 components that make the results it's impossible to predetermine it.

[swogerino]

And one last question how come the game is provably fair when at first when they introduced the wheel of fortune spins the 5000 prizes fell much more often than after they changed the algorithm or I don't know what?

They have decreased the chance of winning big prizes, but that doesn't mean the game isn't provably fair.
"The game is provably fair" means that you know how the outcome is determined before you play and you can verify the rolls. In a provably fair game, there is nothing hidden from the users and there is no way for the house to cheat you.

Ok thank you both for the explanation.I had no doubt about the site and I know they are 100% true and no cheaters but still since you brought this up,how can someone decrease their chances,is this something like the slot machine providers,well some of them offer adjustable RTP,is this some kind of the same implementation to decrease the chances of the big prizes,am just curious about this implementation.

[TheQuin]

Ok thank you both for the explanation.I had no doubt about the site and I know they are 100% true and no cheaters but still since you brought this up,how can someone decrease their chances,is this something like the slot machine providers,well some of them offer adjustable RTP,is this some kind of the same implementation to decrease the chances of the big prizes,am just curious about this implementation.

Slot machines are very different to provably fair systems.

Provably fair guarantees each individual roll has an equal chance of winning and provides a mechanism for the customer to check it was done fairly.

Slot machines gave a guaranteed payout rate over a certain quantity of spins and provide a mechanism for the licencing authority to check that is met. ie. they use an algorithm to predetermine the result of each spin to make sure they meet their payout requirements.

[PawGo]

Just to clarify that when you click play you send us your client seed and as that is one of the 3 components that make the results it's impossible to predetermine it.

I am sorry but I have to ask: how may I be sure that after I send my part you do not calculate 2-5-50 different server seeds and choose the one which is "the cheapest"? Is there any sequence on server side (per user, per day etc.)?

[TheQuin]

I am sorry but I have to ask: how may I be sure that after I send my part you do not calculate 2-5-50 different server seeds and choose the one which is "the cheapest"? Is there any sequence on server side (per user, per day etc.)?

Because without knowing your client seed it is impossible to know which server seed would be the cheapest and because we already gave you the hash of our server seed before we saw your client seed we can't then change it.

There can't be any sequencing involved in a provably fair system because if things were not truly random they could possibly be predictable. That would present the opportunity for cheating on the client seed side.

[pawanjain]

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I can't wait for them to be collected as a whole group and then gamble, it just doesn't feel like something that gives me more, plus I have too much fun to keep waiting, sometimes I am forcefully waiting because I have some other stuff in my life that I have to take care of, that's why it may happen like that, but I do not think that it will really matter.

However, I agree with the 30k+ situation, if we could end up collecting as much as possible here, then what we collect is not actually what we collect, its something more, it's just temporarily low looking but when the price goes up it will be much higher. Many people have made a decent amount of money by grinding here back in the day and waiting for the price to go up.

Yeah, it does nothing. It just gives you accumulated winning so you feel like you have won a lot of prizes. For example, in my last years cycle I have always been collecting more than 100 WOF and then use to spin them. Back then the returns were very high and I assume that was because of the new program launch offer they kept the ROI for the users on the higher scale. Used to get 5K many times whether it is RP or Sats, it was always a profit.

These days I am applying the same strategy but I am not really sure if I am winning on the same scale this year's cycle. However, I have always been positive about the FUN premium program and motivating everyone in my circle to HODL the FUNS all the time. Benefits are higher than the losses for sure.

I'm sure we are winning less from wheel these days. I've observed to be receiving too many lottery tickets rewards when compared to satoshis and RPs prizes. Moreover, the incidence of medium (500) and high (5000) prizes have decreased considerably.

Premium program is great for bitcoin and FUN investors, since you can earn interest on your holdings, but the wheel feature has become just a detail to entertain enthusiasts.

While I strongly agree with you that those 500 and 5000 prizes have decreased considerably I also think that if you collect like 200 WoF and play like 200 during one day but not by clicking Play all button but to Play one,meaning to spin 200 times the wheel of fortune I am sure that you will find at least several 500 prizes and maybe one 5000 prize and why not even one or more Golden Tickets.

If you keep clicking them daily and if you have for example like 10 of them of course 99.99% of the time you will keep getting only those base prizes.I am an enthusiast in the sense that I always hope to win the biggest prize,also hope to win the lottery ticket every Sunday yet I keep on missing them  .

Are you saying that instead of clicking on play all, clicking on play one by one for all the spins would have yielded better results ?
Aren't the odds same for the spins whether you play all at once or play one by one ?
I mean, yes playing one by one will give us a different feeling of joy but it would give us the same amount of rewards as playing all at once.